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MORE FBI LYING!!! "FBI Agent in Kentucky Fined $250 in False Testimony Case, No Jail Time for Lying"
Associated Press ^ | Jun 17, 2003 | Murray Evans Associated Press Writer

Posted on 06/17/2003 1:26:46 PM PDT by OutSpot

LEXINGTON, Ky. (AP) - An FBI scientist pleaded guilty Tuesday to giving false testimony in a pretrial hearing involving a man convicted of killing a college football player.

Through her lawyer, Kathleen Lundy, who did not attend the hearing, pleaded guilty to false swearing and was fined $250. At the urging of the prosecutor, Lundy was spared the maximum 90-day jail sentence.

"She's already lost her job and paid severely, through the loss of her job and her reputation," Prosecutor Tom Smith said. "In my mind, that was sufficient."

Lundy testified in about 80 other cases across the nation. Smith said it would be "rank speculation" to say whether or not Lundy's guilty plea would bring those other cases into question.

Lundy served as an expert witness who used chemical comparisons to link lead bullets to suspects. She testified against Shane Ragland, who was convicted last year of gunning down Kentucky football player Trent DiGiuro in 1994.

During a pretrial hearing, Lundy said a company melted its own bullet lead until 1996, when the company actually had stopped in 1986. She corrected her testimony during the trial and told her supervisors in Washington that she had lied.

In January, Circuit Judge Thomas Clark said Lundy's false testimony would not have altered the course of the case. Federal authorities decided not to prosecute her, but Kentucky prosecutors brought a charge of false swearing.

In a sworn affidavit to Justice Department officials, Lundy wrote: "I cannot explain why I made the original error in my testimony ... nor why, knowing that the testimony was false, I failed to correct it at the time. I was stressed out by this case and work in general."

FBI spokesman Ed Cogswell said he couldn't confirm if Lundy had lost her job at the agency, as Smith had said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; fbi; lyingincourt
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"Lundy served as an expert witness who used chemical comparisons to link lead bullets to suspects. She testified against Shane Ragland, who was convicted last year of gunning down Kentucky football player Trent DiGiuro in 1994."

The “Premier Law Enforcement Institution” is once again caught with flat out lying in court!

The Last FBI LIE was uncovered last month "Key McVeigh Witness Criticized FBI Lab"

1 posted on 06/17/2003 1:26:46 PM PDT by OutSpot
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To: OutSpot
"FBI spokesman Ed Cogswell said he couldn't confirm if Lundy had lost her job at the agency, as Smith had said.

This makes me sick!

2 posted on 06/17/2003 1:30:41 PM PDT by OutSpot
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To: OutSpot
I'm glad to see these corrupt/incompetent perps exposed, but I worry the result will be a new agency under the auspices of Homeland Security. Probably two steps back.
3 posted on 06/17/2003 1:33:35 PM PDT by steve50 (I don't know about being with "us", but I'm with the Constitution)
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To: OutSpot
The FBI are not heroes. Make no mistake about it -they feel they are above the law.

Examples? Waco, Ruby Ridge, falsifying evidence, covering up much criminality in Clinton/Algore Administration and on and on.
4 posted on 06/17/2003 1:35:48 PM PDT by Zorrito
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To: *Donut watch
Yet more crimes of the FBI. Note that it's a felony to lie to federal agents, but this federal agent gets a $250 fine and no jail time for lying under oath.
5 posted on 06/17/2003 1:40:00 PM PDT by coloradan
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To: coloradan
Note that it's a felony to lie to federal agents, but this federal agent gets a $250 fine and no jail time for lying under oath.

My thoughts exactly. IMO LEOs should face the exact same reciprocal sentence that citizens do. It would end a lot of this nonsense.

6 posted on 06/17/2003 1:42:45 PM PDT by dirtboy (Not enough words in FR taglines to adequately describe the dimensions of Hillary's thunderous thighs)
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To: coloradan
If you or I did this we would be charged with a FELONY and thrown in prison. You see, we are considered the little people and they are considered to be extraordinary law enforcement officials who can't do any wrong.


7 posted on 06/17/2003 1:44:26 PM PDT by unixfox (Close the borders, problems solved!)
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To: OutSpot
Question: if DOJ's position is that FBI personnell are exempt from state law while performing official duties (see the Horiuchi plea), how could Kentucky state prosecutors bring a charge of false swearing?
8 posted on 06/17/2003 1:44:54 PM PDT by Grut
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To: OutSpot
"She's already lost her job and paid severely, through the loss of her job and her reputation," Prosecutor Tom Smith said. "In my mind, that was sufficient."
Odd, I'm sure that doesn't come up when an average citizen commits a crime.

During a pretrial hearing, Lundy said a company melted its own bullet lead until 1996, when the company actually had stopped in 1986. She corrected her testimony during the trial and told her supervisors in Washington that she had lied.
Somehow I don't think this is her only case.
9 posted on 06/17/2003 1:47:17 PM PDT by lelio
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To: OutSpot
Is "Kathleen Lundy" the new name of Lon Horiuchi after a sex change?

Seems rogue feds never get really punished!

10 posted on 06/17/2003 1:48:08 PM PDT by BushIsALiberal
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To: OutSpot
"She's already lost her job and paid severely, through the loss of her job and her reputation," Prosecutor Tom Smith said.

Until they quietly re-hire her after the controversy dies down. Meanwhile she's free to get another LEO job -- with the outstanding credential that she "does what it takes"...

11 posted on 06/17/2003 1:50:31 PM PDT by Anthem
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To: Grut
Good eye Grut

May the name Lon Horiuchi never be forgotten!

Never forget Ruby Ridge!

12 posted on 06/17/2003 2:00:40 PM PDT by OutSpot
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To: dirtboy
I would go a bit further than that: I would sentence government agents, sworn under oath and acting in their official capacity, who commit perjury, for the maximum sentence that the defendent faces, if convicted as charged. Don't lie at a captital trial unless you wish to face the death penalty yourself. Recall that government agents have superior rights and powers over citizens. Holding them merely to the same standards as we are held to does not provide adequate restraint against government abuses. Why, such penalties don't even restrain citizen criminals, let alone above-the-law government agents.
13 posted on 06/17/2003 2:01:09 PM PDT by coloradan
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To: OutSpot
The “Premier Law Enforcement Institution” is once again caught with flat out lying in court!

You are aware of the circumstances under which J. Edgar Hoover found it necessary to found the FBI Crime Laboratory, aren't you? Their very earliset existance was brought about by a FBI desperate need to cover up their own wrongdoing and probable criminality.

-archy-/-

14 posted on 06/17/2003 2:05:09 PM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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"At the urging of the prosecutor, Lundy was spared the maximum 90-day jail sentence."

Typical. The prosecution doesn't want to punish one of its own. I'm surprised she was prosecuted at all.
15 posted on 06/17/2003 2:13:52 PM PDT by Henrietta
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To: OutSpot
LEXINGTON, Ky. (AP) - An FBI scientist pleaded guilty Tuesday to giving false testimony in a pretrial hearing involving a man convicted of killing a college football playerWell, at least it wasn't about something important, NOT!

Through her lawyer, Kathleen Lundy, who did not attend the hearing, pleaded guilty to false swearing and was fined $250. At the urging of the prosecutor, Lundy was spared the maximum 90-day jail sentence. Whew, I'd hate to see this person exposed to a real penalty.

"She's already lost her job (oh yeah, check the last sentence of this article) and paid severely, through the loss of her job and her reputation," Prosecutor Tom Smith said. "In my mind, that was sufficient."  And isn't that guideline we always go by when crimes are committed?  LMAO  Sheesh!  Imagine, her rep took a hit.  Oh the humanities...

Lundy testified in about 80 other cases across the nation. Smith said it would be "rank speculation" to say whether or not Lundy's guilty plea would bring those other cases into question. And of course when a witness testifies at a trial, the attornies NEVER challenge based on former perjuries in court.  Holy cow, this article covers a vast morality free zone.

Lundy served as an expert witness who used chemical comparisons to link lead bullets to suspects. She testified against Shane Ragland, who was convicted last year of gunning down Kentucky football player Trent DiGiuro in 1994. Well it seems significant to me if she tied the perp to the crime.  For crying out loud, who wouldn't?

During a pretrial hearing, Lundy said a company melted its own bullet lead until 1996, when the company actually had stopped in 1986. She corrected her testimony during the trial and told her supervisors in Washington that she had lied. But it was only a decade... sniff, sniff...

In January, Circuit Judge Thomas Clark said Lundy's false testimony would not have altered the course of the case. Federal authorities decided not to prosecute her, but Kentucky prosecutors brought a charge of false swearing. If she tied this man to the victim in pretrial, it's possible he would never have stood trial if not for her.  How can you state she didn't affect his guilty verdict?

In a sworn affidavit to Justice Department officials, Lundy wrote: "I cannot explain why I made the original error in my testimony ... nor why, knowing that the testimony was false, I failed to correct it at the time. I was stressed out by this case and work in general."  This person knowingly made a false statement in a murder case, possibly a capital murder case.

FBI spokesman Ed Cogswell said he couldn't confirm if Lundy had lost her job at the agency, as Smith had said.  So anotherwords a known perjurer in a murder case, a possible capital murder case, may still be on the job.  Un F---ing Believable!

AP-ES-06-17-03 1445EDT

This article is troubling, to say the least.

16 posted on 06/17/2003 2:19:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (France: More than a cow pie, less than a place to die for!)
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To: Anthem
Think that's bad, read the last sentence of the article.
17 posted on 06/17/2003 2:20:04 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (France: More than a cow pie, less than a place to die for!)
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To: unixfox
Correction : The FBI is in fact a Praetorian Guard for the federal political class & the judiciary . Neither will punish transgressions seriously for the simple reason that to do so would harm a valuble & powerful tool of control i.e. they know what side their bread is buttered on .
18 posted on 06/17/2003 2:28:58 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 "reach out and thump someone " & .50 cal Browning "reach out & CRUSH someone")
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To: archy
Feel the need to vent.... Call or Write:

Hon. Thomas Smith
Commonwealth's Attorney
310 West Irvine St.
P.O. Box 717
Richmond, KY 40476-0717
Phone: (859) 624-4728 or 4714
Fax: (859) 624-4726

Go to the official home page of Hon. Thomas Smith>

19 posted on 06/17/2003 2:37:04 PM PDT by OutSpot
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To: OutSpot
FBI spokesman Ed Cogswell said he couldn't confirm if Lundy had lost her job at the agency

The FBI agents are too busy leaking Hatfield's resumé to the press in order to further demonize a "person of interest."

20 posted on 06/17/2003 2:37:24 PM PDT by george wythe
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