ME IDENTIFIES 1,500TH WTC VICTIM (NEVER FORGET WHY WE FIGHT THE WAR ON TERROR!)

Newsday ^ | 6/18/03

[areafiftyone]

The medical examiner has identified the remains of 1,500 World Trade Center victims, a milestone that represents slightly more than half the number of people killed.

Chief Medical Examiner Charles Hirsch has said his goal is to eventually reach 2,000 identifications, but has acknowledged that could take years as DNA technology improves.

Some remains were burned or otherwise degraded so badly that their DNA may never yield results. Other victims were essentially vaporized in the collapse, and likely won't be found.

[areafiftyone]

I know it's almost 2 years since the 9/11 attacks but we must never forget the reason we are fighting! I know I will never forget! :-(

[LizardQueen]

One of my parents neighbors (a firefighter, who was the brother of a guy I went to high school with) was lost in the collapse of the South Tower and hasn't been identified yet.

For his family's sake, I hope he is someday.

I will never forget, either.

LQ

[reagan_fanatic]

Never forget what happened there, whether it is 2 years or 200.

Their blood will be avenged, drop by terrible drop...

Radical Islam will be destroyed.

[DoughtyOne]

Just the thought of those people standing outside my door disturbs me.

My heart goes out to the families of the people who died.

I will NEVER forget.

[Peach]

Never forget, never forgive.

[OpusatFR]

Our best friends sister and bro-in-law are still in denial. They live this fantasy that their daughter will some day come home. There were no remains. She worked in one of the financial offices at the top of the tower. She isn't coming home.

[areafiftyone]

How sad!

[ALOHA RONNIE]

NEVER FORGET


..'Remember the Lost and Suffering on September 11, 2001'..

(Photos & Thread)
http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33


NEVER FORGET

[areafiftyone]

I apologize for not posting the link to the whole article. I was so worried about posting an excerpt that I didn't put the link in. This article really got to me. Here it is. CLICK

[waterstraat]

Lets also put this into context. the WTC certainly was a tragedy, but we lose 3000 American lives each day due to abortion. Still, our population increases by 3000 each day or two due to immigration, regardless of 3000 dying daily. Yes, it was bad, but 3000 people dying did not cause this economic depression we are in. We are not fighting in Iraq because of the 17 people who did this, because most of them(14) were Saudi's from Saudi Arabia, not Iraqis. Too many people are trying to put all the blame of everything, the war, and the economy, on the WTC incident, and on Iraq.

[DoughtyOne]

Personal loss of a loved one plays interesting tricks on you. You'd think people could rationalize their loved ones fates, but you just can't always. I think it's best to face the facts and move on, either that or it will take a very heavy toll. Each person has to find their own way. Very very sad. Very very unnecessary. I just get such a sense of futility over this.

[areafiftyone]

Well I didn't specifically say Iraq. We are still fighting in Afghanistan you know and that was because of the World Trade Center!

[backhoe]

-Where It's 9-11 All the Time...--

[csvset]

Did I miss something? I thought the article was about ID-ing the remains of those killed in the World Trade center.

[BlueNgold]

To quote the President (11 Dec '01):
For those of us who lived through these events, the only marker we'll ever need is the tick of a clock at the 46th minute of the eighth hour of the 11th day. We'll remember where we were and how we felt. We'll remember the dead and what we owe them. We will remember what we lost and what we found. And in our time, we will honor the memory of the 11th day by doing our duty as citizens of this great country, freedom's home and freedom's defender.

And ... (8 Nov '01):
Ours is the cause of freedom. We've defeated freedom's enemies before, and we will defeat them again.
We cannot know every turn this battle will take, yet we know our cause is just and our ultimate victory is assured. We will no doubt face new challenges, but we have our marching orders.
My fellow Americans, let's roll.

[wimpycat]

Yes, it was bad, but 3000 people dying did not cause this economic depression we are in.

The hell it didn't. It had a huge impact on our economy.

[Hinoki Cypress]

The Massacre of September 11th.
Never, never, never, never forget what subhuman Mooooos-lim garbage and Islamic pigshit (my apologies to pigs) terrorist filth did to the US on 9-11-01. To put the destruction into proper scale, this GroundZero photo essay helps. As do these remarkable photos, even more drive home the point that it was a massacre of innocents. And if you'd like to ratchet your anger and hatred up, as mine has been since that awful day last September, read this account of the dozens of people jumping from 100+ stories from the WTC Towers. As this reporter says, "embrace the rage". And The Washington Times weighs-in with their commemorative edition of 9-11 horror.

Here's the live thread, on freerepublic.com, and the ongoing posts that I caught on that terrible morning, as it happened.

Here's a 9-11 News Site, which covers it, superbly. As if we needed reminding.

Here are the 2998 Victims of The Massacre of September 11th, 2001. As of 6.19.03, only 1,500 of the innocent victims have been identified; the rest were vaporized. Are you getting angry, again, as I am?

After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, which killed six and injured 1,000; President Rapist-Liar-in-Chief Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished. After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personnel; Rapist-Liar-in-Chief Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished. After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel; Rapist-Liar-in-Chief Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished. After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000; Rapist-Liar-in-Chief Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished. After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 US sailors; Rapist-Liar-in-Chief Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished. Maybe if Rapist-Liar-in-Chief Clinton had kept his promise, an estimated 3,000 people in New York and Washington, DC, that are now dead, would be alive today. The Criminal Clinton lowlifes Klintoon Kriminals; ahhhhh, what a pair!

Need to keep up your anger, hate and rage quotient, for The Massacre of 9-11? Go to Toby Keith's site, or Darryl Worley's site; here's the video to that song.

I don't want justice; I want revenge! Never forget.

[OpusatFR]

What? What sort of context is this?

I don't think anyone believes that 911 is the raison d'etre for war. The fact is that the ME is a hotbed of terrorism exported to the West. That has been true for at least two decades. ~Death to America~ has been the cry for at least 25 years. They mean it.

We will end that terrorism wherever it exists. It will not be allowed to fester here. Whoever stands in the way of America will be rolled over.

There is no compromise.

[rwfromkansas]

jackass

[rwfromkansas]

The commission is pointless. Just because there were previous commissions in the past does not mean we need one now. It serves no major purpose except to try to cast blame on the administration.

It would not look into the previous administration's culpability, that is for sure being set up in New York.

I see no need for a commission that no doubt will not look at the right issues, but only try to cast blame on Republicans.

[ladyinred]

rian Hickey, a firefighter. Hickey was identified on what would have been his 49th birthday, and exactly a year after his family laid to rest a coffin that held his crushed, dirt-caked helmet -- then, the only sign of him found in the ruins.

How heartbreaking, and God bless them for working so hard to bring him home to his family. The article is so sad, stating that one body was found in 200 pieces! The horror of it all, and to think, there are those who are screaming about the war on terror!

[ladyinred]

Their blood will be avenged, drop by terrible drop...

I hope so, but we don't fight just the radical Islamics now, we fight the left, and even some supposedly on the right.

[Dr. Frank fan]

The Warren Commission, headed by Supreme Court Justice Earl Warren, was formed just seven days after President Kennedy was assassinated.

Not that I'm really against a 9/11 commission, mind you, but there seems to be an implicit assumption in your/Salon's criticism that Government commissions are the best way to ascertain the truth about something.

Is this assumption really warranted? ;-)

[ALOHA RONNIE]

NEVER FORGET


...Both Former Hi-CLINTON Contributor and Terrorism Expert-Nuclear Expert-FoX News Foreign Affairs Expert MONSOOR IJAZ...

...and the Former Sudanese Ambassador to the U.S./U.N. confirm that the CLINTONS refused 3-Free Offers to send us OSAMA bin LADEN from the Sudan for trials in the U.S. during the 1990's that would have prevented the Attacks of September 11, 2001 on US in advance.

...That being the case...

.."IS it SAFE?" = HILLARY on Senate Armed Services Committee..

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=629

---

...The CLINTONS are responsible for the sudden death of my fellow Battle of IA DRANG-1965 Veteran and World Trade Center Lifesaving Tower 2 Hero RICK RESCORLA who still needs to be made whole.

...To sign our Petition for President BUSH to award RICK RESCORLA the Presidential Medal of FREEDOM:

http://www.lzxray.com

Signed:..ALOHA RONNIE Guyer / Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965


NEVER FORGET

[CholeraJoe]

* ping

[Dr. Frank fan]

Lets also put this into context. ... Still, our population increases by 3000 each day or two due to immigration,

That's some "context"... I guess if American were vaporized, all 280 million of us killed, and then a fraction of India came here and took our place, that would "put it in context" as well...? ;-)

Yes, it was bad, but 3000 people dying did not cause this economic depression we are in.

What economic depression? There may be a "recession" depending on how these things are defined, but no way is it a depression.

And two more things. 1. How do you know that 9/11 didn't contribute significantly to the current recession? 2. Even if it didn't, that doesn't "put" anything "in context". The fact that 9/11 didn't help cause all current bad situations doesn't diminish its importance.

We are not fighting in Iraq because of the 17 people who did this, because most of them(14) were Saudi's from Saudi Arabia, not Iraqis.

The fact that the majority of hijackers were Saudi nationals doesn't prove that we are not fighting in Iraq "because of 9/11". It's actually quite reasonable to suggest that we are fighting in Iraq because of 9/11; after all, just ask yourself if we would have invaded Iraq had there been no 9/11. It would have been near unthinkable.

Please understand this doesn't mean I'm saying that Iraq perpretrated 9/11. Just that the fact that 9/11 wasn't perpretated by Iraqi nationals doesn't mean that our war in Iraq wasn't connected to that event.

After we were attacked at Pearl Harbor by Japanese nationals, we made war against Germany for some reason, despite the fact that no German nationals participated in the Pearl Harbor attack. This probably confuses you as well?

Too many people are trying to put all the blame of everything, the war, and the economy, on the WTC incident,

Actually, I don't think anyone is trying to put "all the blame of everything" on the WTC incident. Who is, in your view?

and on Iraq.

Ditto. No one's blaming everything on Iraq. I don't know who you think you're responding to with your post.

[tet68]

did not cause this economic depression we are in.

We're in a depression?

zho how do you figure that?

[Dr. Frank fan]

But is there any other option for an investigation that everybody could agree with?

Actually there are zero options for an investigation that everyone could agree with. :-)

Again, I have no real problem in principle with a Government Commission to investigate 9/11, I'm just saying it isn't the panacea of truth discovery it's being made out to be. Best,

[Imperialist]

Never Forget!

[NYC GOP Chick]

Thank you very much for the heads-up on this. I was actually over there yesterday to say prayers for the few I knew and the many I did not, and to reiterate my vow to them that I'll never let the world forget.

I know that for some families, being informed of found/identified body parts of their loved ones force them to think about the suffering and agony (both physical and emotional) that their loved ones suffered in their last moments on Earth.

[waterstraat]

Yes, it was bad, but 3000 people dying did not cause this economic depression we are in. The hell it didn't. It had a huge impact on our economy.

Every day, 3000 babies die, yet we increase our population by 3000 each day. The fact that on 9/11, 6000 died, and our population held constant for one day, did not have "any" effect on our economy,it is too small, and too little, to have any effect on our huge economy. People who blame the poor economy for the past 2 years on one single day where the population in the United States did not increase, are using it as an excuse. There are 280 million people in this county, we have 3000 abortions each day, we have 5000 births each day, we immigrate 57,000 new legal immigrants each week, and another illegal 50,000 come in each day.

3000 extra people dying on 9-11 did not hurt our economy any more than Pearl Harbor did in 1941, nor did D-Day in June of 1944 throw us into an economic depression, nor Gettysburg, nor the massacre of Custer in 1876, etc , etc.

Frankly, I would like to see those responsible for the 14 Saudis and the 3 others from the United Arab Emerites who DID blew up the WTC(not the Iraqis) and kill americans to be found and punsished.

In the final analysis, the war in Iraq was actually a detraction to the finding of those who did cause the WTC and pentagon killings.

[Joe 6-pack]

NEVER FORGET

[wimpycat]

Every one of those people meant more to someone than the whole world. It's really quite offensive for you to be adding and subtracting them, and talking about money in the same breath, as if one person was as good as the next, and it really doesn't amount to much.

[waterstraat]

After we were attacked at Pearl Harbor by Japanese nationals, we made war against Germany for some reason, despite the fact that no German nationals participated in the Pearl Harbor attack. This probably confuses you as well?

It does not confuse me at all, does it confuse you?

"some reason"?

I will tell you what that "some reason" was:

FYI: Germany formally declared war on the United States immediately after Pearl Harbor.

[wolficatZ]

I find it incredible that people still refer to the cold-blooded, deliberate, mass slaughter of American citizens on American soil on 9-11 as a "tragedy".

[Dr. Frank fan]

Every day, 3000 babies die, yet we increase our population by 3000 each day. The fact that on 9/11, 6000 died, and our population held constant for one day, did not have "any" effect on our economy,it is too small, and too little, to have any effect on our huge economy.

You seem to think "economy" is a synonym for "population". I may not be an economist but even I know that's a load of crap. The fact that the WTC was destroyed, that airplane flights became instantaneously more expensive and time-consuming, that tourism decreased, that tax money formerly used for more productive things was instantly diverted to security and military... none of these things figure on your economic radar screen. It's all just population numbers and to you, nothing else affects the economy. Don't you know how downright idiotic that sounds?

People who blame the poor economy for the past 2 years on one single day where the population in the United States did not increase, are using it as an excuse.

Nobody "blames" the poor economy completely on 9/11. You're right that 9/11 did not completely cause the current economy. After all, the economy had started slumping at the end of Clinton's term. You're right that there are, and have been, other factors.

But 9/11 didn't help. Did it?

There are 280 million people in this county, we have 3000 abortions each day, we have 5000 births each day, we immigrate 57,000 new legal immigrants each week, and another illegal 50,000 come in each day.

Fascinating. Irrelevant.

3000 extra people dying on 9-11 did not hurt our economy any more than..

Get it through your skull: it's not merely the dead people which harmed the economy per se. Sheesh.

Frankly, I would like to see those responsible for the 14 Saudis and the 3 others from the United Arab Emerites who DID blew up the WTC(not the Iraqis) and kill americans to be found and punsished.

Me too.

In the final analysis, the war in Iraq was actually a detraction to the finding of those who did cause the WTC and pentagon killings.

How so?

FYI: Germany formally declared war on the United States immediately after Pearl Harbor.

But that can't be. Americans did not participate in attacks against Germany just as Iraqis participated in 9/11.

[areafiftyone]

Oh my God I am reading your post. I am reading my posting on that day and I am reliving it all over again!

[waterstraat]

Every one of those people meant more to someone than the whole world. It's really quite offensive for you to be adding and subtracting them, and talking about money in the same breath, as if one person was as good as the next, and it really doesn't amount to much.

I had a close relative who was murdered practically on the same day as 9-11. It is really quite offensive of "YOU" to say that the death of anyone, my relative, is is not as "good" as another, just because they may have been murdered in a place other than in NYC or Washington DC that day.

Furthermore, FYI, the United States did not go to war with Iraq, and the american economy did not lose 3 million jobs, just because "my" relative happened to be murdered that day.

If you are trying to show some "benefit"(i.e. war on terror, economy, whatever) to my relative being murdered on 9-11, or the other people in the WTC being murdered on 9-11, then prove it and tell us how it relates. Prove to us how we are now safer, how we have less to fear from terroris, or being murdered.

I dont see how any of us are now safer, or, have less to fear from terrorism now, then we did several years ago.

[wimpycat]

I never said anything about anyone's death being less than anyone else's. You're the one doing that.

We're fighting the war on terror because for almost 20 years, terrorists have been blowing up Americans, and the policy of the U.S. was not to take decisive action. Thus, we got the reputation of being all bark and no bite--hence, more terrorist attacks. 9/11 wasn't the beginning of something, it was the end of something. It was the U.S. not acting decisively and meting out real punishment for the murder of Americans...we finally said ENOUGH! We're not going along to get along any more. And we turned the world upside down, because the status quo got us 9/11. The world needed turning upside down and shaking up. And that includes no more pussyfooting with Iraq, which has been a festering sore for 12 years. That showed the UN that they can't go along to get along any more either. And we're not finished. So yes, it might get worse before it gets better, but in the end, we will be better off.

The economy goes up and down, just like it always has. That's nothing new. It will rise again and it will fall again. But another 9/11? No way. They all know now that we're not just going to sit back and take it, like we did after Beirut, like we did after Khobar Towers, like we did after the USS Cole. Just remember the way things were done on 9/10 and ask yourself if it helped us at all. It didn't.

[ALOHA RONNIE]

Thank you for your NEVER FORGET Link to THE WEEK THAT WAS:


September 9, 2001 =
~ALOHA RONNIE Father Dies


September 11, 2001 =
~3 Airstrikes on America
~ALOHA RONNIE Co-Narrates Airstrikes on The BOB DORNAN Talk Radio Show with the Host


September 12, 2001 =
~MONSOOR IJAZ states on the FoX News Channel that the CLINTONS refused 3 Free Offers from the Sudan durng the 1990's to bring OSAMA bin LADEN to the U.S. for Trials that would have stopped the Attacks on US on 9-11 in advance


September 15, 2001 =
~ALOHA RONNIE reads on our U.S. 7th Cavalry's website that Tower 2 Hero RICK RESCORLA was Missing in Action = http://www.lzxray.com
~ALOHA RONNIE starts calling into National Talk Radio/TV calling on the American People...


.."My Fellow Americans, DON't you dare let the CLINTONS get away with THIS One..!!!"


June 18, 2002 =
~ALOHA RONNIE is STILL waiting


NEVER FORGET

[Starrgaizr]

Click Here For Original 9-11 Free Republic Threads

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/620413/posts

[ellery]

To paraphrase your post, one death is a tragedy, 3000 a statistic, eh? /dripping sarcasm

[cake_crumb]

I will never, EVER forget.

[Ciexyz]

The memorial committee has just been chosen, according to last weekend's news reports, to develop a 9-11 memorial at the Pennsylvania crash site. Four relatives of the crash victims were on the board that interviewed the candidates.

I'm looking forward to details of how to contribute.

[areafiftyone]

That's great. Please keep us updated on that. I know it will take forever for the WTC memorial in NYC. There are too many people involved in it and too many politicians!

[ellery]

This war is about preventing future attacks more than punishing past ones. It's thinking like yours that had us ignoring the magnitude of the terrorism threat over the past two decades or more.

[cake_crumb]

"Lets also put this into context. the WTC certainly was a tragedy, but we lose 3000 American lives each day due to abortion. Still, our population increases by 3000 each day or two due to immigration, regardless of 3000 dying daily. Yes, it was bad, but 3000 people dying did not cause this economic depression we are in. We are not fighting in Iraq because of the 17 people who did this, because most of them(14) were Saudi's from Saudi Arabia, not Iraqis. Too many people are trying to put all the blame of everything, the war, and the economy, on the WTC incident, and on Iraq."

Sure. It's all about oil. We nuke Saudi, and problem solved. 3,000 murders by terrorists in one attack is not as bad as abortion, blah, blah. Relativist tripe.

Yes, the murder of 3,128 people, destruction of records, databases and phone lines, the subsequent loss of jobs due to vaporized companies DID put us into the economic slum we're in - it's not a depression. We have had two of those: 1929 and 1979. Saddam was a terrorist kingpin. You forgot to mention bin Laden (a Saudi) and company in Afghanistan. You obviously have no idea about organized terror.

Nuking Saudi will not solve the problem. Wahabbism is everywhere and run by vicious, greedy creeps who are about as religious as Bubba and Je$$e.

[firewalk]

Bttt