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We donít need no steenking 2nd Amendment
Backwoods Home Magazine ^ | John Silveira

Posted on 06/20/2003 12:58:48 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo

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To: inquest
a quote from avowed atheist Edward Abbey.

Well, Ya learn something every day. It is a good quote, though.

51 posted on 06/20/2003 11:50:37 AM PDT by Doomonyou
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To: ExSoldier
Any ideas on how to SIMPLY do this, so that it remains simple and easy to remember?

Really just need to make it clear that while they were no longer at war with Britain, the war was not far in their past, and they all remembered it very well, including the reasons for it.

Even though they were now the government, for the most part, they still distrusted standing armies and government in general. As Ms. Malcom lays out, the reason for the second amendment, from a governmental perspective, is twofold, one to obviate the need for a standing army, which they considered extremely dangerous to liberty, and to provide a counterbalence to any armies that were raised under the Constitutional power (Art. I, sec. 8) to do so. (note the plural, armies, is in the Constitution. The Air Force can be considered an air army for Constitutional purposes) Evidence of their distrust can be found in the provision that appropriations for such armies can be no for no more than two years. Appropriations for a Navy (singular) are not Constitutionally so restricted. In the event Congress does appropriations for both for a single year.

52 posted on 06/20/2003 12:18:58 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: AnAmericanMother
It gives practical shape to the eternal truth that every man has not only the God-given RIGHT but the RESPONSIBILITY to defend himself, his family, and his community.

Yes. The Almighty gave the Tiger, tooth and claw, the horse, swiftness of hoof and if cornered a hard and deadly kick. The concept of being "helpless" is foreign in nature. Every species has some means of self defense. Those who wish to disarm us, are committing the un-natural and subjecting the country to disorder during calamity or subjugation to dictatorship.

53 posted on 06/20/2003 12:19:08 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: Mr. Mojo
bump ....
54 posted on 06/20/2003 12:23:11 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: Doomonyou
Andrew Ford (UseNet): "Without either the first or second amendment, we would have no liberty; the first allows us to find out what's happening, the second allows us to do something about it! The second will be taken away first, followed by the first and then the rest of our freedoms."

Excellent point! The exclusive defenders of the First Amendment, sacrifice the Second Amendment at their own peril.

55 posted on 06/20/2003 12:27:04 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: El Gato
"no guns used on 9-11"

Exactly. None were used in the OK City bombing, or the Olympic bombing of '96.
56 posted on 06/20/2003 1:05:02 PM PDT by opus86
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To: elbucko
The exclusive defenders of the First Amendment, sacrifice the Second Amendment at their own peril.

Agreed! Too bad those "defenders" of the first will probably cheer when the 2nd gets chrushed.

57 posted on 06/20/2003 1:09:05 PM PDT by Doomonyou
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To: Joe Brower; Mr. Mojo
The Constitution contains no right of individuals to keep and bear arms, but contains the right of doctors to deliver the heads of babies, jab them with scissors, and suck out the brains with a hose.

The Left is always the living embodiment of Stalin's New Soviet Man.

We must seize the Senate next year and install judge's of matchless principle.

Those who acknowledge the presence of arms everywhere dissuades evil influence, i.e., more guns, less crime.

The statistically overwhelming majority of gun owners have not killed as many innocent victims as Senator Ted Kennedy (Whale-mASS).

58 posted on 06/20/2003 5:39:44 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
Big Bump to that.
59 posted on 06/20/2003 5:43:32 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Doomonyou
Thanks, great quotes.
60 posted on 06/20/2003 5:44:22 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: AnAmericanMother
Thanks for that link to guncite --- outstanding website.
61 posted on 06/20/2003 5:48:04 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Sam Cree
One of the telling ones, IMO, is that America really is getting to a point where gun ownership, and the pleasure of it, is often looked on today as something a little odd, even unhealthy.

I had a dinner party a few weeks ago and the subject of firearms came up. One of our guests was aghast when she found out that I actually owned a few of them. ....just stared at her plate the rest of the night.

Unfortuantely, I'd imagine her sentiments aren't exactly rare.

62 posted on 06/20/2003 5:51:05 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: elbucko
"subjecting"

Yeah, that's the key word, IMO.

63 posted on 06/20/2003 6:11:54 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
Libs have two reactions, they either crawl into a catatonic shell like Bill where they can't hear or see anything or lash out with a stream of hateful profanity.

Ain't that the truth. Discussing the matter reasonably seems beyond their ability.

64 posted on 06/20/2003 6:12:40 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
One of our guests was aghast when she found out that I actually owned a few of them. ....just stared at her plate the rest of the night.

Well at least you didn't bait her -- my husband is a gun-grabber tormentor. He shows them no mercy at all.

65 posted on 06/20/2003 7:01:56 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . there is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
She gives us excellent strawberries from her garden, so I didn't want to antagonize her too badly. ....But I definitely (and politely) said my piece.
66 posted on 06/20/2003 7:17:09 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
I don't know if hubby could restrain himself even for strawberries (which he loves). You have to understand, he'll argue with Jehovah's Witnesses, even.

He had a couple of them cornered on the front porch one day and they were looking desperate (he really is a most effective debater). I leaned out an upstairs window and said in my sweetest voice, "Come in, darling, and let the nice people alone." They scuttled off down the driveway, and we haven't seen 'em since.

He says the trick is to get them off their memorized track and then keep them off balance. :-D
67 posted on 06/20/2003 7:49:34 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . there is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
bump
68 posted on 06/20/2003 7:58:36 PM PDT by votelife (FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
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To: AnAmericanMother
You have to understand, he'll argue with Jehovah's Witnesses, even.

Wow, that's a man who loves debate. I made the mistake once of telling a few Witnesses I was Jewish, hoping that would effectively end their desire to chat. Boy, was I mistaken! It encouraged them, if anything. They were nice people, so I thanked them for their concern and sent them on their way.

69 posted on 06/20/2003 11:00:31 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: elbucko
The exclusive defenders of the First Amendment, sacrifice the Second Amendment at their own peril.

Exactly right, but good luck convincing the ACLU.

70 posted on 06/20/2003 11:02:23 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
A friend of mine had a novel way of dealing with JWs. When they knocked on her door, she invited them in and began evangelizing for the Episcopal Church (something that Whiskeypalians just never, ever do.) She was raised a Baptist, so she knew how.

Again, the rule appears to be to keep them totally off balance.

71 posted on 06/21/2003 5:49:37 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . there is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: AnAmericanMother; Mr. Mojo
Yeah, strawberries are great.

Most of the time, the evangelizers are not willing to walk through my barking, growling dogs, which I have arranged to be surrounding my house, to get to the front door. At least they have not taken up cold calling on the phone.
72 posted on 06/21/2003 8:59:05 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Sam Cree
That is why I have started to believe that it is important for as many of us that are able to go out and purchase and own guns. Only after a generation or two of suburban kids growing up in an atmosphere of guns will they once again come to view guns as normal and useful.
73 posted on 06/23/2003 10:21:52 AM PDT by Abe Froman
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To: Sam Cree
That is why I have started to believe that it is important for as many of us that are able to go out and purchase and own guns. Only after a generation or two of suburban kids growing up in an atmosphere of guns will they once again come to view guns as normal and useful.
74 posted on 06/23/2003 10:21:52 AM PDT by Abe Froman
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To: Abe Froman
I've brought my kids up knowing how to shoot, which they enjoy and are good at, yet still, I think they regard our family as outside the norm for being gun owners, which I guess we are, in this day and age.

After all, Janet Reno justified the aggressive and violent storming of a private home with a SWAT team (armed with full auto) by saying there may have been a firearm inside.
75 posted on 06/23/2003 11:43:35 AM PDT by Sam Cree (democrats are herd animals)
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To: Sam Cree
BTTT
76 posted on 06/26/2003 9:06:38 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
BTTT
77 posted on 06/26/2003 9:06:52 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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