The Healthy Forest Restoration Act is good for recreation and property rights.

United Four Wheel Drive Associations

[nwconservative]

The Healthy Forest Restoration Act is good for recreation and property rights.

[nwconservative]

***********This e-mail should interest all concerned with property rights***********

The Healthy Forest Restoration Act is good for recreation and property rights.

The extreme environmental activists are gearing up to fight this act with a lot of misinformation.

The 2003 fire season in the west is young and already several significant fires are burning.

This act will return a balance to an out of control system.

-----Original Message----- From: Mel Wolf Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 5:47 PM To: Recipient list suppressed Subject: Healthy Forests Legislation in the U.S. Senate

FYI...... see http://agriculture.house.gov/ and http://energy.senate.gov/

DATE: Friday, June 20, 2003 FROM: Action@landsense.us SUBJECT: Healthy Forests Legislation in the U.S. Senate

Update on the looming battle ahead in the U.S. Senate over the Healthy Forests Restoration Act:

Next Thursday, June 26th, the Senate Agriculture Committee will hold a full-day hearing on the House passed version of The Healthy Forests Restoration Act. The hearing will feature a number of expert scientific witnesses and will be chaired by Senator Mike Crapo of Idaho. There will not be a vote at this hearing.

Sometime in mid-to-late July the full Agriculture Committee will vote on the legislation and send it to the full Senate. Due to the Senate's August recess, it is very likely this legislation will not go to the floor until after Labor Day.

Be ready to act.

Parts of the West are already on fire and we need to make sure we reinforce the potential resources at risk if nothing is done in the Senate.

In the coming weeks we'll need your help in making calls and sending e-mails to Senate offices. This will be a difficult battle and one that will get significant media play, especially with fires already burning. We will be asking that you contact your Senators and ask them to protect our nation's natural resources by supporting this important legislation.

Thanks for your continued help and support. Keep up the fight! -- John Stewart Director, Environmental Affairs, United Four Wheel Drive Associations, http://www.ufwda.org Recreation Access and Conservation Editor, http://www.4x4wire.com Moderator, MUIRNet - Multiple Use Information Resource Network

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A fundamental law of public land access is:

Increased habitat designation for threatened and endangered species is directly proportional to loss of access to public lands.

[nwconservative]

environemntal ping

[Sonny M]

Sorry if I am a little skeptical. I would need to have more info on this law. As of now I support the "3 S's" system for helping endangered species.

Shoot.

Shovel.

Shut up.

[farmfriend]

Rights, farms, environment ping.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.

[Carry_Okie]

Too little, too late, too expensive, too bureaucratic, and too many lawyers involved for it to ever really work this way. As much as I support the direction the initiative purports to intend, I have become too jaded with this system to believe that it will accomplish those goals.

There is a better way, and it starts with private property.

[nwconservative]

I agree and I fight for that above all. However, we need the multiple use system back in out national forests. No more wilderness areas, national parks, or monuments for they are nothing but land grabs.

Another danger is the big timber companies swapping land with outfits like the Nature Conservancy. Weyerhaeuser's message to small timber owners was made loud and clear with WA State's, forest and fish rules. We got the shaft. Of course with our then lands commissioner, Jennifer (Bullitt Foundation) Belcher we should have seen it coming.

I am now hollering at our present lands commissioner, Doug Southerland >>>>> NO GREEN CERTIFICATION!!!

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!

[Carry_Okie]

However, we need the multiple use system back in out national forests.

The mere existence of National Forests depresses the price that a landowner can charge for more intangible uses of the land. That forces them into extractive means to support the forest economically.

I am an advocate of a type of insured certification that is quite different from what the FSC offers as a replacement for civic regulation. If you want to check out my book corporating the topic, it's here.

[ClaireSolt]

How about we start questioning the notion of "federal lands" and demand that they are our lands and the feds turn them over to the people instead of letting them burn up through mismanagement. Reinstate the homestead laws and let my people go!

[Carry_Okie]

That's what I meant, although I think the more appropriate means would be by auction.

[ClaireSolt]

Bush could pull it off like this: It's not the government's land, it's the people's land. There wa a libertarian candidate for President who said sell it and pay off the national debt. Tho, I am not sure that the govenment is entitled to more than an administative fee.