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Free Sarah Saga and her two children

1 posted on 06/21/2003 12:04:51 AM PDT by JustPiper
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To: cgk
Ping ;)
2 posted on 06/21/2003 12:05:35 AM PDT by JustPiper (You know that I'm NOT the kind of crazy that can be cured!!!)
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Additional info on Sara Saga here, written by Pat Roush, another mother whose children were kidnapped 17 years ago by Saudi dad, still living in Saudi Arabia... Sarah defies Saudi thugs, won't leave without kids! . Includes contact info for the State Dept.
5 posted on 06/21/2003 12:11:09 AM PDT by cgk (Rummy on WMD: We haven't found Saddam Hussein yet, but I don't see anyone saying HE didn't exist.)
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To: JustPiper
despite Prince Bandar’s September promise that no American women and children would be held in his kingdom against their will.

This needs to be pointed out, loudly and often.
Along with the inferance that Prince Bandar is a liar.
(or, that he is "impotent" when it comes to enforcing his word.)

8 posted on 06/21/2003 12:48:20 AM PDT by Drammach
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To: JustPiper
"Thirteen years ago, an American woman actually got kicked out of the U.S. embassy for having the nerve to escape there with her children."

Thirteen years ago, Bush the Elder was president. The Bush family have Saudi friends who get invited to dinner at the White House on a moment's notice. I don't expect the current President Bush to apply any pressure on the Saudi gov't for any solution that would favor the women and children.

G.W. is supposed to be protecting Americans, but if they're in Saudi, forget it. I hold this against him.

11 posted on 06/21/2003 1:20:11 AM PDT by etcetera
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To: JustPiper
Why does our administration and Congress continue allowing the Saudis to kidnap our women and imprison our children? If Iran were to do such a thing, we would quickly declare war.

This was the one false note in Scarborough's article. (See full article, I think this is not in the exerpt.) There is no way we would quickly declare war if Iran, or any other country, did it. We are not the kind of country which declares war just because our women are kidnapped and children imprisoned. Unfortunately, I think.

24 posted on 06/21/2003 6:47:53 AM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: JustPiper
"WOMEN HAVE FEW rights in Saudi Arabia. Like the Taliban, our so-called Saudi allies prohibit women from leaving the country without their father and husband’s approval."

OK, I admit, I do not know all the details of this story, but did the woman NOT know Saudi laws and customs before she decided to marry this raghead?(raceism not intended) Why is she in Saudi Arabia to begin with?
Maybe someone can link me to a story that can explain why I should really feel so sorry for her.
Was she taken to Saudi Arabia aginst her will? Did she not marry this creep? Was it also aginst her will? Is he not the father of the kids?

I have been out of the country for past 6 weeks, and maybe I missed something.

Thanks
28 posted on 06/21/2003 7:12:52 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: JustPiper
It's time for a Ross Perot type hostage rescue.
33 posted on 06/21/2003 8:01:46 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton
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To: JustPiper
I want them flown to the US on the same private jet the Saudis used to fly Bin Ladin's family out of the US after 9/11. Today.
46 posted on 06/21/2003 9:26:07 AM PDT by Courier (Quick: Name one good thing about the Saudis.)
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To: JustPiper
A better question is: WHY ARE WOMEN SO IGNORANT ON THIS ISSUE ...?? Why do they end up marrying these FORIGNERS - men who do not believe in GOD, men who believe women are CHATTEL ...?? Why would a woman ever want to marry such a man ...??

I blame the MOTHER OF SARAH. She married the idiot to begin with - lost her daughter and subjected her own child to terrible treatment. What a legacy - allowing your own child to be a dormat for another person.
53 posted on 06/21/2003 12:10:22 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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Americans should be taught from day one - DO NOT date, meet, associate with foreigners in any way that could lead to romance!

Back in the '50's a Muslim guy asked my parents if he could date me and the answer was a resounding NO! They then sat me down and explained why it was out of the question. That's all it took to convince me - that guy was Off Limits.
54 posted on 06/21/2003 12:19:37 PM PDT by Humidston (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law)
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To: JustPiper
Our State Dept. is infected.

Big post-retirement "con$ulting" gigs are possible for complying with Saudi political cover. This has been reported many times. Even before retirement, "honoraria" has been paid.

The World Socialism Movement has 5th columnists in State's high to low places undermining our rule of law and sense of justice, killing the hopes of American citizen children and their American citizen mothers unwise to have fallen for Arab misogynists.
66 posted on 06/21/2003 2:01:46 PM PDT by SevenDaysInMay
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To: JustPiper
That's what happens to women that marry Arabs! Arab women seem to crave that kind of treatment for some unknown reason. It should serve as a lesson to all American women.
68 posted on 06/21/2003 2:12:39 PM PDT by The Scorpion King
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To: JustPiper
This is the page on marriage to Saudi Arabians, written by the State Department.
http://travel.state.gov/marriagetosaudis.html

which I looked up after reading this article on FR, yesterday
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/932375/posts

I hope that Ms. Saga will be an exception to the history of women in SA up to this date.

I understand the difficulties must be great, but why should the US honor the SA's laws that Ms. Saga (born in the US) and her children are not US citizens? This is a crisis, since by our laws, they are. Who is safe, if US citizens may be accosted in our own consulates?

76 posted on 06/21/2003 3:15:55 PM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US.)
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To: JustPiper
Between the ridiculous subjugation of women in Saudi Arabia - and that of men in the US concerning these very same issues - there's gotta be some in between - maybe in Atlantis.
94 posted on 06/21/2003 6:43:39 PM PDT by ctonious
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To: JustPiper
Just keep telling yourself the Saudis are our friends. The President and government tells us this, there weren't a dozen Saudis among the 9/11 terrorists, they aren't funding the palestinians.

Ah, screw it. The Saudis are more dangerous to us over the long haul than Iraq or Afghanistan or Iran.

102 posted on 06/21/2003 8:53:37 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: JustPiper
...honestly, I think any woman marrying a Muslim and then returning to the 'homeland' needs her head examined.
105 posted on 06/21/2003 9:24:45 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (For or against us.........)
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To: JustPiper
Most have probably learned in liberal American schools that all cultures are 'equal', and then proceeded to find out how unequal the rest of the world is.

I guess those liberals lied. Sorry you had to find out the hard way.

107 posted on 06/21/2003 9:36:41 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (For or against us.........)
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To: JustPiper
"Well, today’s news made the Prince out to be a liar.

Saudi Prince Bandar a liar! I'm shocked!

Actually, to be an Arab is to be a liar....
The Quran compells Muslims to lie to "infidels"....

Semper Fi

122 posted on 06/22/2003 12:55:29 AM PDT by river rat (War works......It brings Peace... Give war a chance to destroy Jihadists...)
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