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'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms
Seattle Post Intelligencer ^
| 11/22/2002
| ALAN I. LESHNER
Posted on 06/22/2003 5:29:39 PM PDT by Aric2000
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To: ALS
I suspected that but I was not sure.
To: lilDuce
I will gladly bring the "superstitous tripe" into the classroom when I begin teaching students.
182
posted on
06/22/2003 7:50:25 PM PDT
by
rwfromkansas
("There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C.H. Spurgeon)
To: lafroste
LOL!
183
posted on
06/22/2003 7:50:47 PM PDT
by
ApesForEvolution
("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
To: ALS
did not cite that anywhere in my post. Said you were trying to intimidate with the fear of god's wrath and hell. You distorted this into the idea that I fear hell, by trying to ask a seemingly innocuous question, hoping I would say yes, then saying that evolution does not back up the existence of hell.
Unfortunately, your tactic of distorting what someone says and trying to make a trap for them has failed. I do not fear hell, I only find it frustrating that when your creationist/intelligentdesign/whatevercodenameyoucameupwiththisweekforyourostrichheadapproach argument fails, you can only resort to "Fear the wrath of god and an eternity in hell!" while at the same time subscribing to the people who have always placed as the cornerstone of their arguments that evolutionists use intimidation.
sidebar: if one says 2+2 is 7, and a 4-year old says 2+2 is 4, doo-doo-head, one must not get into "He called me a name!" It doesn't make one any more right.
184
posted on
06/22/2003 7:52:02 PM PDT
by
Derrald
To: rwfromkansas
It's no wonder that our nation started sliding when they set up government schooling and showed God the door...
185
posted on
06/22/2003 7:52:13 PM PDT
by
ApesForEvolution
("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
To: Aric2000
bookmark for later
186
posted on
06/22/2003 7:52:37 PM PDT
by
mathluv
To: goodseedhomeschool
The grand canyon was created by a Scotsman, who one day lost a golf ball down a gopher hole.
187
posted on
06/22/2003 7:53:40 PM PDT
by
T Ruth
To: ApesForEvolution
I went to an elite private Christian school yet I still was taught evolution in the 70's even there. I was awakened 8 years ago and I thank God every day for it. I have studied this for so long now. It really angers me that we were sold this lie for so long. I pray it will not happen to future generations.
To: Rudder
As my old professor told me, "Now that you're embarking upon a career in science, you'll find that facts are very rare and very hard to find." The biggest knowledge gap I've sensed on these threads is clearly that of philosophy of science. People who seem to properly understand the role of theories, facts, evidence, observations, etc. seem entirely to support the idea of evolution through natural selection.
They don't claim it's perfect or disproves the existence of God, just that it's the best explanation we've got going for the historical record of life.
On the other side there seems to be a lot of misuse of the ideas of theory vs. fact, a lot of almost post-modern sentiments like "well you have your theory and I have mine", and the occasional "you're going to hell!"
189
posted on
06/22/2003 7:57:01 PM PDT
by
PianoMan
(Liberate the Axis of Evil)
To: Aric2000
At issue, rather, is whether ID theory, so far unproven by scientific factsAt issue is whether evolution is proven by scientific facts. In fact we can go even further and ask whether evolution is even a theory. No two people will state it the same way. If one goes to the craddle of evolutionist misinformation - TalkOrigins - one will see some 20 different statements of what evolution is.
IT CANNOT BE SCIENCE IF IT IS NOT EVEN A DEFINED THEORY
190
posted on
06/22/2003 7:57:31 PM PDT
by
gore3000
(Intelligent people do not believe in evolution.)
To: Aric2000
HMMMMMMMMMMMMM
SO, your favorite THEORY
is threatened
by another 'THEORY???'
Poor baby.
Perhaps, if the first theory is so shakey as to be threatened by another 'mere theory' from your perspective
. . . then the first THEORY may not be all it's
CRACKED up to be!
191
posted on
06/22/2003 7:58:20 PM PDT
by
Quix
To: rwfromkansas
Hooray :)
To: Lysander
Yes,
how gravity works is a theory. We seem to be in agreement on this.
Evolution is also just a theory. That being the case, it is appropriate that the school board wants children to understand that evolution is only a theory.
193
posted on
06/22/2003 7:59:28 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(Socialism is slavery.)
To: Quix
There's a stark distinction between scientific theory (evolution) and mythological fantasy (intelligent design); scientists would be well-served to remember that distinction. At the very least, in order to displace the centrality of evolution, one requires a competing theory, rather than one preferred fantasy out of a myriad of fantasies..
194
posted on
06/22/2003 8:02:05 PM PDT
by
AntiGuv
(™)
To: goodseedhomeschool
Blessings back atcha!
Praise the name of the Lord God Almighty, Creator of Heaven and earth!
Whose name is above ALL other names and whose name alone shall men be saved by!
(Had a stirring in my spirit)
195
posted on
06/22/2003 8:02:34 PM PDT
by
ApesForEvolution
("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
To: AntiGuv
"on the same platter with the well-supported theory of evolution" What "support"?
196
posted on
06/22/2003 8:03:09 PM PDT
by
paulsy
To: ApesForEvolution
:) Amen
To: Derrald
Did you even read my post? Yes I did. I found it to be an excellent argument for ID.
198
posted on
06/22/2003 8:04:16 PM PDT
by
Jorge
To: Aric2000; backhoe; Bennett46; betsyross60; BlessedBeGod; Brad's Gramma; DeweyCA; ...
ID theory, so far unproven by scientific facts, should be served to students on the same platter with the well-supported theory of evolution. I'd charatibly hope you were kidding if I didn't know better.
"unproven by scientific facts" vs "well-supported theory of evolution."
HOGWASH.
CALLING A POLITICAL POWER BLOCK's winnings in the political and media arena
"well-supported theory"
has got to be a new winning grand example of Billdo-Slick-Zipper-and-Shrillery-Hellery-SPEAK.
You are merely one of plenty of priests in the religion of evolution. Pretending your religion is scientific is about as honest and honorable as pretending it's contentions are "proven" by the "evidence."
But hey, delusions are in vogue from Billdo and Shrillery's White House on down. Enjoy yours while you can--it's days are very numbered.
. . . every knee shall bow, every tongue confess . . .
THAT you can bank on.
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posted on
06/22/2003 8:05:50 PM PDT
by
Quix
To: paulsy
I have neither the patience nor the motivation to provide anyone with several years worth of education. Feel free to conduct your own research; perhaps you could initiate the quest
here.
200
posted on
06/22/2003 8:06:10 PM PDT
by
AntiGuv
(™)
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