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Is it acceptable to marry a girl who has not yet started her menses? (Islam)
Islam Q & A ^
| 23 June 2003
| Answers supervised by Shaikh M. S. Al-Munajjid
Posted on 06/23/2003 8:32:57 AM PDT by Salman
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Demon possessed pedophile, or pedophilic charlatan?
You decide.
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posted on
06/23/2003 8:32:59 AM PDT
by
Salman
To: Salman
sick.
To: Salman
Lovely...it gets sicker...
2 It was narrated from Aaishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) married her when she was six years old, and consummated the marriage with her when she was nine, and she stayed with him for nine years.
Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 4840; Muslim, 1422.
Ibn Abd al-Barr said:
The scholars are unanimously agreed that a father may marry off his young daughter without consulting her. The Messenger of Allaah married Aaishah bint Abi Bakr when she was young, six or seven years old, when her father married her to him.
To: Salman
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
They are still playing with BARBIE dolls and teddy bears and Hello Kitty in this country at 12! In Islam they think it's okay to get married?
YUCK!
To: Salman
If the girl doesn't have her ears pierced, her nose pierced, her belly-button pierced, a cell phone, a VISA card, green hair and attitude, she's too young for marriage.
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posted on
06/23/2003 8:39:21 AM PDT
by
T'wit
To: Salman
Thanks for the..um..insight.
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posted on
06/23/2003 8:40:09 AM PDT
by
Registered
("Status Quo" is Latin for "the mess we're in")
To: Salman
The fact that it is permissible to marry a minor girl does not imply that it is permissible to have intercourse with her, rather the husband should not have intercourse with her until she becomes able for that. Hence the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) delayed consummating the marriage to Aaishah (may Allaah be pleased with her). Yeah -- I bet she was one hot momma when she reached the ripe old age of nine.
I'm thinking that the only reason Mo waited that long was that he couldn't get it into her until then.
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posted on
06/23/2003 8:40:36 AM PDT
by
r9etb
To: Registered
How much for the little girl?
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posted on
06/23/2003 8:41:36 AM PDT
by
Dog Gone
To: Salman
SICK SICK SICK!!!
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posted on
06/23/2003 8:41:47 AM PDT
by
areafiftyone
(The U.N. needs a good Flush!)
To: Salman
Mohammad thought it was a good idea, having a nine year old bride..
10
posted on
06/23/2003 8:42:07 AM PDT
by
ewing
To: Salman
Hey, these morons check their brains at the Mosque door. Check out the site
"Ask the Imam". These folks can't figure out how to fart without asking the Imam or Muslim cleric how to. Basically, Islam is the opposite of personal freedom as best I can tell. In essence, converse of the core Amerian values of freedom and self-determination. Kinda like Democrats. Little tobots.
As far as menses? See here for more information. These people are a mess! Pun intended....
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posted on
06/23/2003 8:42:25 AM PDT
by
isthisnickcool
(Sorry, but this tag line has been blocked by the FTC "do not tag" list!)
To: Salman
Klingons...
To: I_Love_My_Husband
There is also a 'temporary' marriage that poorer families arrange that involves the exchange of money (man to family) a girl can be married off a coupla times before she marries for good (starting very young)....
I need to email my friend in Cairo.
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posted on
06/23/2003 8:42:51 AM PDT
by
najida
(What handbasket? And where did you say we were going?)
To: knighthawk; dennisw; piasa; FITZ; Salman
Islam is an insane murder and rape cult.
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posted on
06/23/2003 8:43:37 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Salman
Is it acceptable to marry a girl who has not yet started her menses? (Islam)
Yeah, well, sure, I think...
{ Immense extended coffee-spit }
WHAAAAT?!!
Ay yi yi, the fact that some questions can even be
asked.... Oy!
Dan
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posted on
06/23/2003 8:45:28 AM PDT
by
BibChr
("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
To: Salman
Interesting footnote to this episode, from
History of PalestineMahomed had an astrologer at his court called Bucheran, who was a very great enemy of the Jews, and urged the prophet constantly to persecute and exterminate them entirely, so that Mahomed at length listened to the proposition, since he had without this already a hatred towards them, because they had not aided him in his campaigns according to his expectation; wherefore the whole Jewish population under his rule, ran great danger of being entirely cut off. Rabbi Shallum, son of the then Resh Gelutha, in Babel, perceiving this dreadful predicament, went to Mahomed, and offering him his submission, friendship, and services, endeavoured to enter with him into a friendly compact. Mahomed accepted his proposition with pleasure, conceived a great affection for him, and took his daughter, a handsome young girl, for wife; he made him also a general in his army, and gave him the name of Abu Bachr al Chaliva al Zadik, literally: The father of the maiden, the descendant of the righteous; this means, that of all his wives, who were either widows or divorced women, this one was the only one who had never been married before, and then she was the granddaughter of the celebrated chief of the captivity; therefore, the descendant of the righteous. This occurrence induced Mahomed to give up his terrible intention to destroy the Jews in his country, and thus did Rabbi Shallum save his people.
Abu Bachr and Aliman now resolved among themselves to remove the dangerous enemy of the Jews, Bucheran. One evening Mahomed, Bucheran, Aliman, and Abu Bachr, were drinking together; the latter two soon saw that Mahomed and the astrologer were strongly intoxicated, and lay stretched out in a deep and profound sleep. Abu Bachr thereupon drew the sword of Mahomed from its scabbard, cut off therewith Bucharan's head, and put the bloody sword back into its receptacle, and both then lay themselves down quietly near Mahomed to sleep. When Mahomed awoke and saw his friend lying decapitated near him, he cried out in a fury: "This terrible deed has been done by one of us three in our drunkenness!" Abu Bachr thereupon said quite unconcernedly: "Let each one draw his sword, and he whose weapon is stained with blood, must needs be the murderer!" They all drew their swords, and that of Mahomed was completely dyed with fresh blood, which proved thus clearly to his satisfaction that he had murdered his friend. He was greatly grieved at this discovery; cursed and condemned the wine which was the cause of this murder, and swore that he never would drink any more, and that also no one should do so who wishes to enter heaven. This is the cause why wine is prohibited to the Mahomedans.
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posted on
06/23/2003 8:46:07 AM PDT
by
Alouette
(Why is it called "International Law" if only Israel and the United States are expected to keep it?)
To: isthisnickcool
Basically, Islam is the opposite of personal freedom as best I can tell. In essence, converse of the core Amerian values of freedom and self-determination. Kinda like Democrats. Little tobots. It sounds like Islam is in many ways very similar to Pharisaic Judaism -- lots of rules and laws and such to ensure that people can, by their works, reach heaven.
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posted on
06/23/2003 8:48:50 AM PDT
by
r9etb
To: Salman
This is how girls are "valued" in Islam. From another thread today.
In Ramadi, a patrol of two tanks and four Humvees came under small arms fire on Sunday, and the patrol saw a young girl running away with an AK-47 assault rifle, said Capt. Burris Wollsieffer, of the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment. The bullets landed harmlessly in the dirt around the vehicles, he said on Monday.
The troops followed the girl home and found the rifle wrapped in a red dress propped in a corner. Three men in the household were taken for interrogation, but the troops allowed the girl to remain at home when they learned her age. They also seized $1,500 in cash and $1,000 in Iraqi dinars, the officer said.
None of the troops saw who fired the weapon, although they found no other suspects in the area other than the young girl.
No doubt when the 3 men are released and return home, they will kill this poor girl for "bringing dishonor" to the family by returning alive from the "martyrdom operation" these brave muslim heroes sent her on for $1,000.
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posted on
06/23/2003 8:50:09 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: I_Love_My_Husband
They are still playing with BARBIE dolls and teddy bears and Hello Kitty in this country at 12! In Islam they think it's okay to get married? Are you kidding? An Islamic girl can be a grandmother by 12!
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posted on
06/23/2003 8:50:19 AM PDT
by
PaulJ
To: Salman
Now, okay, we should in no way be recognizing this as a legitimate religion. It has slavery, pedophilia, terrorism and oppression all rolled into one.
This cult tells people to hate Jews and Christians, to kill people, and encourages pedophilia. It should be actively denounced.
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