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Could You Have Passed the 8th Grade in 1895? Probably Not...Take a Look
Grandfather Education Report ^ | Michael Hodges

Posted on 6/24/2003, 4:01:56 AM by Rennes Templar

This is a sub section of the Grandfather Education Report, a chapter of the comprehensive Grandfather Economic Report series of mini-reports with dramatic pictures on critical subjects proving serious threats facing the economic future of our young, compared to prior generations. Poor education quality is a major threat to our nation, partly caused by unacceptable teaching methods, and dumbed-down textbooks and test standards.

This is about test standards, compared to the past.

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Questions: What percentage of this year's seniors and last year's high school graduates could pass the following 8th grade test required in 1895, even if the few outdated questions were modernized? How many college students could pass it? For that matter, what percentage of high school teachers could pass it? And - - what percentage of today's schools have standards for promotion from 8th grade equal to or tougher than those required in 1895?

8th Grade Final Exam: Salina, Kansas - 1895

This is the eighth-grade final exam from 1895 from Salina, Kansas. It was taken from the original document on file at the Smoky Valley Genealogical Society and Library in Salina, Kansas and reprinted by the Salina Journal.

Grammar (Time, one hour) 1. Give nine rules for the use of Capital Letters. 2. Name the Parts of Speech and define those that have no modifications. 3. Define Verse, Stanza and Paragraph. 4. What are the Principal Parts of a verb? Give Principal Parts of do, lie, lay and run. 5. Define Case, Illustrate each Case. 6. What is Punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of Punctuation. 7-10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.

Arithmetic (Time, 1.25 hours) 1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic. 2. A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold? 3. If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50cts. per bu, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare? 4. District No. 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals? 5. Find cost of 6720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton. 6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent. 7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $.20 per inch? 8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent. 9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance around which is 640 rods? 10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt.

U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes) 1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided. 2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus. 3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War. 4. Show the territorial growth of the United States. 5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas. 6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion. 7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, Penn, and Howe? 8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, and 1865?

Orthography (Time, one hour) 1. What is meant by the following: Alphabet, phonetic orthography, etymology, syllabication? 2. What are elementary sounds? How classified? 3. What are the following, and give examples of each: Trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals? 4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u'. 5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e'. Name two exceptions under each rule. 6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each. 7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: Bi, dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, super. 8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: Card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last. 9. Use the following correctly in sentences, Cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane, vain, vein, raze, raise, rays. 10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.

Geography (Time, one hour) 1. What is climate? Upon what does climate depend? 2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas? 3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean? 4. Describe the mountains of N.A. 5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, Manitoba, Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fermandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco. 6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S. 7. Name all the republics of Europe and give capital of each. 8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude? 9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers. 10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give inclination of the earth.


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Wowser. I remember one of my final 8th grade exams questions was, "which Beatle is left-handed?"

Good education helped build a great Republic. We must return to high standards.

1 posted on 6/24/2003, 4:01:56 AM by Rennes Templar
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To: Rennes Templar
I've seen this before, it is an eye opener.
2 posted on 6/24/2003, 4:09:54 AM by FastCoyote
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To: Rennes Templar; Mortimer Snavely
At times this test has been claimed to be a debunked urband legend. I sent Mort an old arithmetic textbook from the 1800s. As he will testify, the math examinations were more difficult than stated here.
3 posted on 6/24/2003, 4:16:07 AM by RLK
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To: Rennes Templar
Yes, I know most of it. But then, I'm not in the 8th grade. ;)
4 posted on 6/24/2003, 4:18:35 AM by Libertina
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To: Rennes Templar
This is a debunked urban legend.

http://www.snopes.com/language/document/1895exam.htm
5 posted on 6/24/2003, 4:20:56 AM by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Rennes Templar
Amen. Ide fial dat tes. I mean, I'd fail that test. We should require every current 8th grader to pass a similar test to graduate to the next level. Simple, objective, fair. The purpose of primary education is to teach the basics upon which everything else is based. This test tests the fundamentals. When a quaterback, placekicker, shooting guard, batter, etc. go out for pre-game warm ups, they practice the fundamentals. It's the same thing with education and thinking: to be good at something, one must constantly study and practice the fundamentals, which is a difficult task if one never learns those fundamentals. It's also another reason I wish FR had spel chek. ;-)
6 posted on 6/24/2003, 4:21:10 AM by JamesWilson
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To: FastCoyote
I actually have one of the old school books from then. You'd have to do a double take to check the grade level when you were going over the sections (it went from something like 1st to 8th grade), you're thinking "Xrd graders had to know THIS!?!?!" in the respective levels.
7 posted on 6/24/2003, 4:21:28 AM by Axenolith (<This space for rent>)
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To: Rennes Templar

8 posted on 6/24/2003, 4:24:06 AM by Luis Gonzalez (Cuba será libre...soon.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Darn. I said George.
9 posted on 6/24/2003, 4:28:01 AM by Rennes Templar
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To: Rennes Templar
Wonderful questions. At 8th grade I would have done OK except I would have hated the math. Still could have done most of it, however.

I graduated from eighth grade in a western Nebraska county after attending a two room country school there.

Any other questions? LOL!
10 posted on 6/24/2003, 4:28:26 AM by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Beelzebubba
I can't remember his exact words, but Rush covered this last week and stated after he checked up on the story of the test, Snopes.com is wrong. It wouldn't be the first time. The test is real.
11 posted on 6/24/2003, 4:28:42 AM by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
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To: Rennes Templar
Did you pass?
12 posted on 6/24/2003, 4:28:45 AM by Luis Gonzalez (Cuba será libre...soon.)
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To: Rennes Templar
There would have been at least a 100 word spelling tests, too.
13 posted on 6/24/2003, 4:28:58 AM by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Beelzebubba
actually, snopes doesn't give reasons/proof that this test is not the real deal. They only offer a "who cares - it's not relevant today" reasoning for debunking it.
14 posted on 6/24/2003, 4:30:39 AM by stylin19a (this space for rent)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Nice Gibson.
15 posted on 6/24/2003, 4:35:47 AM by shawnlaw (LOX BURGER ANYONE...)
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To: Beelzebubba
So is the test authentic or not?
16 posted on 6/24/2003, 4:35:51 AM by Rennes Templar
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To: stylin19a
i noticed that also.

last week roger hedgecock subbed for rush, and said that they'd researched this, and it was true.
17 posted on 6/24/2003, 4:35:56 AM by liberalnot (what democrats fear is real democracy. /s)
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To: shawnlaw
I guess he can afford one...
18 posted on 6/24/2003, 4:38:58 AM by Luis Gonzalez (Cuba será libre...soon.)
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To: RLK
The currency conversions lost me, (dollars to £/s/d) and I always thought I was pretty good at stuff like that.
19 posted on 6/24/2003, 4:42:22 AM by Mortimer Snavely (Is anyone else tired of reading these tag lines?)
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To: Rennes Templar
How many bushels of wheat will it hold?

It's a good test if you're a farmer maybe ---how many kids today would know what a bushel is?

20 posted on 6/24/2003, 4:45:51 AM by FITZ
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