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No arrogance like liberal arrogance: Prager on leftist hubris, how they invent morality
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, June 24, 2003 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 06/23/2003 11:35:31 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

The first same-sex marriage in North American history has just taken place. The highest court of Ontario has ruled that the millennia-old definition of marriage of one man and one woman violates Canada's constitution.

How did three people change marriage, always understood to be a privilege defined by society, into a right defined by judges? How can three people have the hubris to overturn a pillar of Western civilization without allowing their society to have a say in the matter?

There is a one-word answer to these questions. Liberalism.

There is no arrogance like liberal arrogance. Nowhere in the conservative world is there anything to match it.

Liberals are certain that they know more, understand more, are more tolerant and more compassionate than anyone else. Therefore, there is no inclination for a liberal judge to allow democracy to determine society's values. The idea that the public should be allowed to vote on one of the most significant issues in the life of a society offends them: Did Moses have the Israelites vote on murder or adultery? Why then would a liberal judge have Americans or Canadians vote on abortion or the definition of marriage?

The liberal American justices who created a constitutional right to kill a human fetus for any reason could not care less what the American people believed about the worth of the human fetus. If nine out of every 10 Americans thought that a woman and her doctor needed a moral reason to extinguish nascent human life, it would only have reinforced the liberal justices' beliefs that America needs their enlightened minds to counteract such foolishness.

So, too, the Canadian justices are quite unconcerned with Canadians' opinions or values. The justices believe that the definition of marriage needs to change, so they changed it. It's as simple as that. They know better because they are liberals.

But liberal hubris runs even deeper than that.

When conservatives are sure of their positions, it is almost always because they believe that a pre-existing and higher source of morality demands that position. To take our present example, conservative opposition to redefining marriage comes from respect for millennia-old values – those of Western society and those of the Judeo-Christian tradition. Conservatives, of course, may be wrong, but their position is not rooted in belief in self, but belief in a text that they hold far higher than their own opinions and feelings.

Not so liberals. There is no biblical or Western basis for redefining marriage. There is only the individual liberal's high self-esteem: He is so compassionate, so enlightened and so decent that his opinion must surely prevail. The conservative, on the other hand, asks what the founders of his society really meant, what the Bible says, and, yes, what does the citizenry want.

Liberals don't ask such questions. They find the question of what the founders' views were to be irrelevant or even contemptible (the founders, after all, are frequently viewed as economics-driven, white, male slave holders); they rarely care what the Bible says, since they regard it as neither divine nor morally compelling; and they have contempt for the citizenry, as it contains a large number of fools (i.e., non-liberals) to be feared for their lack of enlightenment and education.

What liberals ask is how they themselves feel – not what a text or a founder or a religion teaches. This is one reason liberalism is so attractive. One need not know, let alone wrestle with, prior texts or values. One need only consult one's feelings to know what is right (hence the liberal preoccupation with the word compassion). Indeed, to the extent prior texts are studied, they are done so not to learn from but to deconstruct, i.e., to delegitimize.

Therefore, with no prior religious or national value system to restrain them, liberals are free to invent morality in the image of their hearts.

That is how three people can effortlessly redefine marriage. They felt like it.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada
Tuesday, June 24, 2003

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1 posted on 06/23/2003 11:35:31 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Yup. Liberals hate conservatives because we stand athwart history and yell "NO" and they've never forgiven us for it.
2 posted on 06/23/2003 11:51:33 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Praeger often gets it right because believes that the moral preceedes and defines the political. The liberals have contrived to get it backwards.

Here is another interesting discussion applying the same considerations to homosexuality and abortion: http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/926747/posts
3 posted on 06/24/2003 12:44:37 AM PDT by nathanbedford
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To: JohnHuang2
They're simply restoring the older Greco-Roman tradition, where homosexuality was a normal way of life, and such relationships were actually encourged. Ancient Greece was the foundation from which modern western civilization sprung, we're simply reconnecting with our roots. Personally I don't think the government should have any say in who or how many people you can marry or have sex with. The goverment's job is not to enforce morality, that's what religion is for.
4 posted on 06/24/2003 12:47:42 AM PDT by houston1
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To: houston1
There are certain privileges and responsibilities that marriage incurs legally.Granting social security survivors(nonworking)benefits is one.Multiple marriage partners results in aid to the children of a family of too many children and one breadwinner.We pay for choices other people make.
5 posted on 06/24/2003 1:02:27 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: JohnHuang2
This is an excellent analysis by Mr. Prager. Liberals see themselves as intellectually superior to the average person. They think that makes them capable of leadership. But the truth is, they base everything on how they "feel".

Walk into any kindergarten at recess to see what happens when everything is based on how the individual "feels". Ask yourself if you want kindergartners running our country? If not, then don't vote demacrat. Great article. BUMP

6 posted on 06/24/2003 1:08:34 AM PDT by fly_so_free (Never underestimate the treachery of the demacratic party. Save the USA-Vote a demacrat out of offic)
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To: houston1
The laws of our society have their roots in the morality taught (commanded) in the Bible.

It has very little to do with what a bunch of fags did in ancient Greece.

7 posted on 06/24/2003 1:24:25 AM PDT by Bullish
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To: JohnHuang2
But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God-- having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them. They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over weak-willed women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth.

2 Timothy 3: 1-7

8 posted on 06/24/2003 1:44:36 AM PDT by SkyPilot (""First Tim, let me say, I don't know, I can't answer that." --Howard Dean to Russert (27 times))
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To: houston1
If homosexuality was normal and encouraged, why was Socrates executed by the state?
9 posted on 06/24/2003 1:56:12 AM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: houston1
And since you made that claim about homosexuality being normal in ancient Greece, I researched the subject. There is a book out written by a Greek named Adonis Georgiades entitled
"Debunking the Myth of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece" where he persuasively argues that homosexuality was frowned upon in ancient Greece, and severe sanctions (including death) were visited upon its practitioners.
10 posted on 06/24/2003 2:23:24 AM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: JohnHuang2
The highest court of Ontario has ruled that the millennia-old definition of marriage of one man and one woman violates Canada's constitution...

The idea that the public should be allowed to vote on one of the most significant issues in the life of a society offends them...

How did three people change marriage, always understood to be a privilege defined by society, into a right defined by judges? How can three people have the hubris to overturn a pillar of Western civilization without allowing their society to have a say in the matter?

The above seems to me to be the essence of his argument (the rest being either amplification or general criticism of the liberal position).

Normally I like Prager but something bothers me about his logic this time:

It is often the case that various rights or laws are contradictory when their implications are fully realized. The Courts are then called upon to sort it out.

The Courts do not initiate actions. People bring suit.

Many issues are not voted on. Neither we nor Canada are direct democracies. The right of the majority to decide issues is limited in many ways.

On this, as on many contentious issues, the public is divided with many opinions on all sides being loudly and continually expressed. That's how we got to this point.

The Courts are not the final word. Dissatisfaction with their decisions can be voiced in several ways - amendment to the Constitution, change of the political composition of the Courts and reversal of their opinions, etc. If they're truly out of step with the public their opinions will eventually be discarded. Not easily - but that's by design. The justices didn't just arbitrarily assume their positions. They got them because they in some way represented the will of the electorate.

11 posted on 06/24/2003 4:45:36 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
There seems to be something of a contradiction here. The people - the society - should have the right to determine, by voting, what values are normative. But they should not have the right to overturn Biblical values - " Did Moses have the Israelites vote on murder or adultery?"
12 posted on 06/24/2003 4:57:27 AM PDT by liberallarry
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