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In France, Policy on Muslims Comes to a Head on Scarves
THE WALL STREET JOURNAL ^ | June 26, 2003 | CHARLES FLEMING and JOHN CARREYROU

Posted on 06/26/2003 5:50:05 AM PDT by SJackson

Edited on 04/22/2004 11:49:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

LYON, France -- When 16-year-old Fatiha wore a headscarf to her public high school here earlier this year, the Muslim girl's teachers were outraged. They saw it as a divisive religious symbol and refused to let her take classes. The school's principal sought help from a higher authority: France's full-time headscarf mediator.


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1 posted on 06/26/2003 5:50:05 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
My goodness, how intolerant! I wonder how the lefties will react to France's slap in the face of multicultural diversity...
2 posted on 06/26/2003 5:57:03 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: SJackson
In France today, there are probably a lot of people donning face scarves just so they won't be mistaken for being French. Much better to be a Muslim than to be French these days.
3 posted on 06/26/2003 6:00:19 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: SJackson
Headscarf mediators?! They've had to hire headscarf mediators? LOL
4 posted on 06/26/2003 6:00:49 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: TonyRo76
Let me get this straight...France is so Ameriphobic (dang, I thought I had a new word, but Ixquick.com shows 11 hits!) that they have to dump "hamburger" and other words from the lexicon, but will stand by as a bazillion Muslims move in and take over the country? Take that, Mr. Frenchy Frenchman!
6 posted on 06/26/2003 6:09:45 AM PDT by 50sDad (The only thing worse than Smurfs is CLOWNS! (or maybe MIMES!))
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To: SJackson
"But perhaps the Republic is changing," he says, "and we are the last resisters."

This guy has figured it out.

7 posted on 06/26/2003 6:27:04 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: sarasota
Did you know that certain Roman Catholic Churches in France allow muslims to use them for services on Friday's?
8 posted on 06/26/2003 6:27:28 AM PDT by crazykatz
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To: SJackson
Though Muslim, she saw headscarves as a form of "apartheid," a sexist marker to remind women of their place. At the same time, convinced that education was the best chance immigrants had of succeeding, she felt the scarves didn't justify being barred from classes.

This is on the mark. The Islamic requirement of "headcovering" for women is Islam's greatest symbol of the entire cult-religion's "apartheid" from Western civilization and mores.

So long as Islamics are allowed to separate themselves in public with such symbolism, they will never be integrated into the American culture -- or any _other_ "Western" culture, for that matter.

I believe that "extreme headcovering" of women should be _banned_ in the West, including right here in the U.S.A. Not merely discouraged, but publicly prohibited.

By "extreme headcovering" of women, I mean headwear that obscures the face and completely covers the hair. Something as simple as a scarf (or in the case of Mennonite women, a small "skullcap" or a yarmulke for a Jew) would be permitted. This would uphold the concept of religious "expression" without crossing the line to religious extremism -- which is what I consider Islam to be (and I consider _all_ forms of Islam to be "extreme" and dangerous to the West as a whole).

Regardless of our many differences with the French, they are dead right on _this_ particular issue.

Yes, yes, I know about something called The First Amendment.

But again, if we are ever to force assmilation upon Islamics here in the United States (and elsewhere in The West), the very first step will be to DE-symbolize their inherent mistreatment and subjugation of their women. And the first "step" to achieving _that_ will be to -- ahem -- "liberate" Muslim women from their [culturally] oppressive head covering.

I realize that my opinions are my own and that yours may be different. But I'm sticking to mine!

Cheers!
- John

9 posted on 06/26/2003 6:27:58 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: SJackson
"We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality."

10 posted on 06/26/2003 6:31:52 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Vote Democrat! Vote for national--and personal--suicide! It's like being a suicide bomber!)
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To: SJackson
who want to be both French and Muslim

give you guess which more important to them...and it's not France.

11 posted on 06/26/2003 6:54:51 AM PDT by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: Fishrrman
I believe that "extreme headcovering" of women should be _banned_ in the West, including right here in the U.S.A. Not merely discouraged, but publicly prohibited.

I think you're on to something there...remember the news story a few weeks ago about the Muslim woman who couldn't renew her driver's license unless she agreed to be photographed without her veil? Not that schoolgirls are too likely to be terror threats, and the woman perhaps not either, but there are security issues as well as assimilation issues here...

13 posted on 06/26/2003 7:27:49 AM PDT by 88keys
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To: SJackson
I'm taking bets. How many years until the crosses are chiseled off Notre Dame?

I'm going with 14 years.

16 posted on 06/26/2003 9:21:02 AM PDT by dagnabbit (What was your Matricula card deal with the Mexican Government Mr. Bush?)
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To: crazykatz
Sounds like the Catholics have opened the door for the muslims to walk through and....? Wonder what's next? I'm not sure how to interpret that one.
17 posted on 06/26/2003 11:20:49 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: sarasota
Did you ever see the picture of the Pope kissing a great big green koran held by a mullah?
18 posted on 06/26/2003 12:29:52 PM PDT by crazykatz
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To: sarasota; dagnabbit
Please go to this thread and check out post 62.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/933730/posts?q=1&&page=51

19 posted on 06/26/2003 12:33:56 PM PDT by crazykatz
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To: TonyRo76
BTTT
20 posted on 06/26/2003 12:34:32 PM PDT by crazykatz
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