[chanupi]

I thought that this country was founded on the faith of secular humanism.

I'm so sick of christians trying to claim our fore fathers.

Thomas Paine was no christian. George Washington never once refered to jesus christ in any of his writings, and rarely atteneded church. Thomas Jefferson has this to say:

"Religion is a subject on which I have ever been most scrupulously reserved. I have considered it as a matter between every man and his Maker in which no other, and far less the public, had a right to intermeddle." --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Rush, 1813.

[Diamond]

I'm so sick of christians trying to claim our fore fathers.

Thomas Paine was no christian. George Washington never once refered to jesus christ in any of his writings, and rarely atteneded church. Thomas Jefferson has this to say:

"Religion is a subject on which I have ever been most scrupulously reserved. I have considered it as a matter between every man and his Maker in which no other, and far less the public, had a right to intermeddle." --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Rush, 1813.

You need to educate yourself regarding the history of this nation. Numerous previous threads here have dealt extensively with this subject with extensive quotations from the founders. Bless his heart, Thomas Paine, while influential in the Revolution with his pamphlet, "Common Sense" cannot be considered a founder in the sense the others were. Sorry. It's a fact of history. If you feel like being suprised sometime, investigate the denominational affiliations of the signatories to the Declaration and the Constitution.

Cordially,

[Naspino]

Your evidence is pretty sparse -- given that God appears just about everywhere in our government. The principles of this country were founded upon the faith of those that comprised it at the time. You cannot deny that the Christian faith and this country are intertwined and have been since its foundation. Just because one or two guys that were involved in its foundation didn't mention the name of Jesus doesn't mean they didn't realize what was the predominate belief at the time.