1 posted on
06/26/2003 9:41:20 PM PDT by
ambrose
To: Congressman Billybob
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2 posted on
06/26/2003 9:41:53 PM PDT by
ambrose
Is Shelley the new Katherine Harris?
I see Im not the only one having a hard time getting straight answers from Secretary of State Kevin Shelley about the recall rules. Roll Call reports that a Shelley spokeswoman says it is unclear whether a scheduled recall election would proceed if Davis resigns before it takes place. (Article is for paid subscribers only; I got the quote through Rick Hasens Election Law blog.) Shelleys office has also been painfully slow in answering questions Ive had about how things will unfold, and up until now Ive given them the benefit of the doubt, figuring theyre new in the job and a little bit overwhelmed. But the longer this goes on the more Im inclined to suspect that Shelley wants to keep things vague so he can make it up as he goes alongsort of a Democratic version of the post-election legal interpretations in Florida 2000. I dont think Davis is going to resign, but shouldnt Shelley know by now what the law says about the effect of a resignation in the face of a recall? And even if we observers think the law is unclear, shouldnt Shelley have an opinion, since thats where the process of sorting it out would begin?
Posted by dweintraub at 07:34 AM
3 posted on
06/26/2003 9:47:14 PM PDT by
ambrose
To: ambrose
Laws fon't apply to democrats, lawyers, and other sociopaths. Laws are for the little people.
4 posted on
06/26/2003 9:51:41 PM PDT by
friendly
To: ambrose
Laws don't apply to democrats, lawyers, and other sociopaths. Laws are for the little people.
5 posted on
06/26/2003 9:51:51 PM PDT by
friendly
To: ambrose
This is why Ted Costa and company's "verification" (read: building a future direct-mail list) of the signatures is such a bad idea.
Should have just turned the damned things over and let the state workers who don't do anything anyway have at them.
8 posted on
06/26/2003 9:58:03 PM PDT by
TheAngryClam
(NO MULLIGANS- BILL SIMON, KEEP OUT OF THE RECALL ELECTION!)
To: ambrose
This is looking more like a mirror image of Florida every day. Instead of a Republican Secretary of State fighting to slow a recount and elect a Republican president, we have a Democratic Secretary of State acting to slow a signature count to prevent the recall of a Democratic governor. Whatever drugs this guy is on, I don't want anywhere near me or my family.
9 posted on
06/26/2003 9:58:12 PM PDT by
Imal
(A Little Cut 'n' Paste is a Dangerous Thing)
To: JohnHuang2
Bump
12 posted on
06/26/2003 10:05:53 PM PDT by
ambrose
To: ambrose
days thereafter, or more frequently at the discretion of the elections official
Seems clear to me that this jerk rat is just trying to thwart the will of the people. It's a pretty big tide right now and he might want to think twice, provided he can do so.
14 posted on
06/26/2003 10:14:49 PM PDT by
Libertina
(FR - roaches check in, but they don't check out....)
To: Common Tator
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I will never doubt the wisdom of the common 'tator.
17 posted on
06/26/2003 10:18:47 PM PDT by
B-bone
To: ambrose
So if Dems actively subvert the California constitution, what follows? Constitutional crisis? Will the feds help us? Revolution?:-)
To: ambrose
Secretary of State Kevin Shelley has interpreted the law to say that county registrars need only be verifying the signatures they received by June 16. The rest they may set aside until the end of the next reporting period on July 23. Then they will report that number to Shelley and he will give them the go-ahead to verify the second batch. But they wont be required to report that new number until Aug. 22. If they report the new number August 22, Shelley has 10 days to certify the results, which would be September 2, 2003, still more than 180 days before March 2, 2004.
If the Recall people turn in all remaining signatures, say on July 4th, before the end of this "reporting period," would the counties still have to wait until this artificial "period" ends, or would the final submission date begin a 30 day period during which the signatures must be counted and verified, such as for initiatives when all signatures are turned in at once?
Theyre required to provide us the number of verified signatures received through June 16, for the next reporting period (on July 16), the spokesman said. If they want to verify signatures received after June 16th, the law does not address that issue. Theyre not required to do so.
Since counties still can verify signatures continuously without having the Secretary of State tell them to do so, we just need to have sufficient signatures turned in to the conservative counties, including the high-signature San Diego and Orange counties, and pressure the local elections officials to start verifying the signatures; hopefully this can overcome any problems with elections officials in the liberal counties, where signature counts are low anyway.
19 posted on
06/26/2003 10:35:42 PM PDT by
heleny
To: ambrose
Somebody needs to remind Mr. Shelly - HE CAN BE RECALLED OR IMPEACHED - if that's what he'd like. He better stop messing with the law and do his job - otherwise ...???
20 posted on
06/26/2003 10:39:02 PM PDT by
CyberAnt
( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
To: ambrose
This is exactly what we thought he would do. It is not necessary, but he is playing politics as usual for a democrat.
23 posted on
06/26/2003 11:32:27 PM PDT by
ladyinred
(The left have blood on their hands.)
To: ambrose
This is looking more like a mirror image of Florida every day. Instead of a Republican Secretary of State fighting to slow a recount and elect a Republican president, we have a Democratic Secretary of State acting to slow a signature count to prevent the recall of a Democratic governor. I am rather surprised by this statement. Harris wasn't trying to slow a recount,she was going by Florida law. This is a case of ignoring the law by Shelly.
24 posted on
06/26/2003 11:35:19 PM PDT by
ladyinred
(The left have blood on their hands.)
To: ambrose
KFI AM640 is going over this column right now.
28 posted on
06/27/2003 3:11:20 PM PDT by
lainie
To: ambrose
37 posted on
06/27/2003 4:11:12 PM PDT by
CyberCowboy777
(They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
To: ambrose
Do they have to count military signatures?
46 posted on
06/27/2003 7:29:02 PM PDT by
gitmo
(What's in the Constitution isn't. And vice-versa.)
To: ambrose
All your signatures are belong to us.
47 posted on
07/02/2003 7:41:45 AM PDT by
tdadams
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