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Yahoo! ^ | June 27, 2003 | Andy Sullivan

[joesnuffy]

took me about half an hour to register
been waiting nearly that for my two minute confirmation email

[SC_Republican]

I'm really an SEC guy (GO DAWGS!), but I'd love to see Miami and Vtech int the ACC.

THe big East is getting screwed though.

[D. Brian Carter]

Not only did you change the title of the article, you got it wrong. It's one thousand people per SECOND.

[Lee'sGhost]

The idea that Donna Shalala is calling the shot for Miami makes me want to puke. Maybe she'll consult Janet Reno and they'll burn down the campus.

[SC_Republican]

Laws like this at the national level? No, not according to the Constitution...

Doesn't the Constitution mention something about regulating Interstate Commerce (Article I Section 8 to be exact: To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states...)?

I'm quite sure that all of the calls I get are not exclusivly from my home state.

[Grando Calrissian]

I'm quite sure that all of the calls I get are not exclusivly from my home state.

Most of them are purposely not from your own state to skirt existing laws on the book blocking such calls from within states.

[isthisnickcool]

1,000 people per second?

Their site says 385,000 were verified in a 4 hour period. The 1,000 per second seems high.

[radiohead]

there is already a way to get off of most mail marketing lists. see: http://www.ftc.gov/privacy/protect.htm#Direct

i don't know why they should charge you $5 for this, but it's something you can do if you're truly ticked by junk mail and it is the industry making an attempt to regulate itself (no feds that i can see).

as to the phone calls - if they didn't use computerized systems that dial every freakin' phone, maybe they wouldn't be in this mess. have you ever been in an office with consecutive phone numbers as one phone after another rang w/these stupid calls?

i pay for an unlisted, unpublished number and still got these calls (because of the computer dial system). even if you tell the salesperson not to call you, either they aren't in control of the list or they don't care. all i know is that it hasn't worked for me.

what seems to work so far is getting the phone number blocked. i did this about a month ago and can't think of any telemarketers calling, other than those w/whom i already do business.

[PeaceCorpsGuy]

My mistake. I was rushed when I was writing the headline.

[stubernx98]

Well, there is going to be a whole new group applying for unemployment. Most of these jobs are minimum wage. I found it a minor inconvience, as compared to computing my quarterly taxes.

How about a law against people smacking their lips while they eat in public. Yeah, and what about those offensive bumper stickers?

It won't be long before we can trash all those laws about what we can't do, and replace with what is allowed. All on one piece of paper double spaced.

[D. Brian Carter]

I know you're kinda new around here... to prevent double posting of articles and allow others to search to see if an article has been posted, don't change the original headline. If you must put comments in the title, place them in parentheses after the title. And welcome to FR.

Have fun in the Philippines... I've got a young lady friend over there and would love to be joining you. However, I'm leaving for USArmy BCT in October, so won't be making any trips to PI for awhile.

[meisterbrewer]

Yes, by all means. Heaven knows we need the national government to regulate something else for us don't we? The new 'conservative' agenda: Don't like it? Have the national government pass a law against it.

I agree. In fact, I think they are already regulated too much. All laws regulating telemarketing, or any other industry in fact, should be removed. I mean, who really cares if someone calls you at three in the morning, doesn't tell you who they are, and asks you to buy home insurance or they will burn down your house.

This is America, doggone it! People should be able to do what they want!

[theophilusscribe]

Hey billbears. I agree that the states should be passing the laws, but I'm curious about something.

Could a telemarketing firm call a state that had those laws as long as they were situated in a state that did?

For example, a telemarketing firm in California (which does not have the law) could legally call a resident in Texas (which does have the law) because California firms are not held responsible for Texas laws.

Therefore, these firms would just be limited to operating in states that didn't have the law, making the law moot. Right?

I know I am I missing something . . . Sorry for the ignorance . . .

[meisterbrewer]

Therefore, these firms would just be limited to operating in states that didn't have the law, making the law moot. Right? I know I am I missing something . . . Sorry for the ignorance . . .

Tee hee.

[billbears]

I see your point and my solution would require vigilance at the state level to elect officials that would see that is not only the rights of the states but responsibilities of the separate states to do what the majority of their citizens so desire

However in no way do I see a national government solution as fixing anything. Adding another level of bureaucracy and a whole line of sit on your A$$ jobs to be handed out like candy that will be paid for out of my paycheck is what I see out of this

[billbears]

I mean, who really cares if someone calls you at three in the morning, doesn't tell you who they are, and asks you to buy home insurance or they will burn down your house.

Hmmm, caller ID, telemarketer block provided by private industry, and existing laws already in place should be able to handle a situation like that.

But you're right!! I agree, we need to get the national government involved in something else. Lord knows no one at that level, of either party, knows what the Constitution says anymore so let's get'em involved in this too

[mamaduck]

How does this affect me calling past customers?

[theophilusscribe]

that will be paid for out of my paycheck is what I see out of this

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you that there is NO need for the government to get any bigger or suck more money from our paychecks. (Aaaaargh! God forbid!!!)

Of course, whether states take responsibility, or feds do, there will be a new army of government workers to implement it (probably ex-telemarketers with a vendetta. LOL!).

I also wonder how hard it will be for the feds to actually enforce this law.

It seems pretty impossible unless the new army of federal workers includes a new army of trial lawyers.

(sigh) Well, at least Edwards will have something to do after he loses the Democratic primary.

:o)

[kevkrom]

However in no way do I see a national government solution as fixing anything. Adding another level of bureaucracy and a whole line of sit on your A$$ jobs to be handed out like candy that will be paid for out of my paycheck is what I see out of this

I don't know how much "bureaucracy" and "sit on your A$$ jobs" are involved, but at least be reassured that it's not coming out of your wallet. The system will be paid for by subscription fees paid by the telemarketers.

[meisterbrewer]

Hmmm, caller ID, telemarketer block provided by private industry, and existing laws already in place should be able to handle a situation like that.

You, of course, know that caller ID was only provided by the industry when legislation was threatened, and even then by only some states. That's why I still receive "out of area" calls all the time.