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To: Carry_Okie
I will respond to this as if you are not being cynical.

I'm not being cynical. I'm just trying to describe the nature of the fix we're in.

I have copies of the Congressional Record from 1941

I don't understand. This isn't a SCOTUS ruling. Marbury vs. Madison established the SCOTUS as the final word on Constitutinality. (Whereas in an ideal world every jury in America would make such judgements...with appeal, of course.)

55 posted on 06/27/2003 8:39:14 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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To: AdamSelene235
The Convention on Nature Protection was adopted in 1941 under fraudulent auspices. That's what's in the Congressional Record. It is the most powerful treaty underlying the ESA. There hasn't been a ruling on the scope of this treaty because it has gone unchallenged. Very few people even acknowledge its existence. I'd tell you more about what's going on in that realm to create the standing for a case, but not here. I'm the author of the book I cited above.

(Whereas in an ideal world every jury in America would make such judgements...with appeal, of course.)

The informed jury is indeed an ideal; especially if we could chuck the exclusionary rule.

64 posted on 06/27/2003 9:23:14 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by politics.)
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