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Sodomy ruling damages freedom (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people)
townhall ^ | June 28, 2003 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 06/27/2003 9:18:56 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

Sodomy ruling damages freedom

President John Adams famously said, "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people." In light of Adams' admonition, how should we view the Supreme Court's decision to strike down Texas's sodomy law?

Is the decision (and the cultural conditions it is doubtlessly based on) more evidence that America has degenerated into an immoral nation unworthy of the Constitution? Have we abandoned the moral foundations of our freedoms?

I think a strong case can be made that we are moving headlong in that direction, but perhaps for different reasons than you might suspect. The decision demonstrates that we are losing our moral undergirdings, but not necessarily because it reflects that our society condones (and darn near embraces) behavior historically considered aberrant.

You see, on its face, the decision doesn't particularly turn on whether society sanctions homosexual behavior but on the supposed constitutional right to privacy. So instead of addressing the morality of homosexual behavior, I want to focus on the immorality of judicial activism and what it portends for American freedom.

When Adams (and others) made a correlation between faith and freedom, he wasn't saying that only a sin-free people were suited for the Constitution. If that were the case, the nation would have been doomed from the start. For as a devout Christian, Adams believed that all men are sinners.

Instead, he meant that for the Constitution to serve as a long-term guarantor of our freedoms the American people, by and large, would have to guide themselves by absolute moral standards -- not ones that shift with the sands of political correctness.

This tendency toward judicial activism in the last 50 years is a result of our institutional abandonment of moral absolutes. Judicial activism is grounded in moral relativism and sustained by the notion that there are no moral standards that cannot be bent or broken to conform to society's ever-changing moral condition.

When our constitutional freedoms are planted in the unstable footings of moral relativism, they are but a step away from extinction. This is what Christians mean (and what Adams meant) in saying that no matter how brilliantly crafted our Constitution, it will not survive as a liberty-preserving instrument without moral underpinnings. Indeed our liberties are insured by limitations on government rooted in moral absolutes.

Just consider some of the methods by which the Constitutional Framers instituted a system of limited government. They incorporated into the Constitution the principles of federalism, separation of powers, the Bill of Rights, enumerated powers, reserved powers and the rule of law.

The sobering reality is that every one of those doctrines is undermined when a judicially active court acts as a superlegislature and rewrites the laws according to its whim, as in the Texas sodomy case or the Michigan Law School admissions case where the Court affirmed government-sponsored race-based discrimination.

Regardless of what you think about the propriety of state laws criminalizing sodomy, under our constitutional system, it is a matter for the state governments to decide. There is no provision in the federal constitution -- except the one the Supreme Court has fabricated over the years (the right to privacy) -- that can preempt the states on this issue. Regardless of whether a majority of the Supreme Court justices happen to believe that reverse racism is justified to correct past discrimination, the Court has no right to completely contradict the Constitution in implementing such a rule.

But when moral relativism is the Court's guiding light, it can take away rights or create them out of thin air at the stroke of an arrogant judicial pen. When no fixed principles are immune from the Court's mischief, the entire Bill of Rights is in jeopardy, because there is no longer any reliable protection for the minority against the tyranny of the majority.

Unchecked judicial activism leads to the erosion of all the foundational principles of limited government. Federalism takes a hit because the federal court usurps state prerogatives; the separation of powers is damaged because the Court encroaches into the legislative sphere; the Bill of Rights is assaulted because the 9th and 10th Amendment rights of the people and the states (and the reserved powers doctrine) are diminished. And the rule of law takes a punch to the gut when the highest arbiter of law in the nation says that we are a government of men -- five out of nine robed men, to be more precise -- not laws.

Some so-called civil libertarians are touting the Court's sodomy ruling as a giant step forward for American freedom. It is exactly the opposite.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: constitution; freedom; god; lawrencevtexas; sodomy
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1 posted on 06/27/2003 9:18:57 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
... When our constitutional freedoms are planted in the unstable footings of moral relativism, they are but a step away from extinction. This is what Christians mean (and what Adams meant) in saying that no matter how brilliantly crafted our Constitution, it will not survive as a liberty-preserving instrument without moral underpinnings. Indeed our liberties are insured by limitations on government rooted in moral absolutes ...

This is a great article, focusing on the main problem with the SCOTUS ruling, as compared to the case application (homosexual act privacy) which has garnered the great majority of comments. The excerpt I copied above really stood out for me.

Thanks for posting.

2 posted on 06/27/2003 9:28:57 PM PDT by Camber-G
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To: TLBSHOW
I'm a faithful Rush fan, but it seems his dooms day alarmism has spread to his brother.

The idea that this is some watershed decision that marks a turning point for morality in America is just silly.

We're talking about the America which is infamous around the world as a leader in pornography...where people like Howard Stern are elevated to mega star status and made rich. The idea that because police can't peep into peoples bedrooms and bust them for homosexual acts is the end of anything significant in this country is a joke.

Most state repealed sodomy laws years ago.

Where have these two been?

3 posted on 06/27/2003 9:30:00 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge
What I don't understand is the fact that everyone is carrying on about how bad sodomy is, and how it is a sin in the eyes of God, but not a single one of them condemn Texas' decision to legalize it for 97% of their citizens.

Maybe, just maybe, if the citizens of Texas had not decided that they didn't want legal trouble if caught being sodomized by, or sodomizing their wives or sweethearts, we wouldn't be in this mess.

4 posted on 06/27/2003 9:35:22 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Cuba será libre...soon.)
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To: TLBSHOW
Will this ruling remove from a harmed spouse the right to sue for divorce based on adultery the 'other' commits 'with a consenting adult, in private'? Yes ... and that is but one of the 'watersheds' (read destructive erosions) this ruling from the black robed philospher kings will cause.
5 posted on 06/27/2003 9:41:53 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
Will this ruling remove from a harmed spouse the right to sue for divorce based on adultery

Umm, huh? You can divorce for any reason these days.

6 posted on 06/27/2003 9:50:35 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: Luis Gonzalez
What I don't understand is the fact that everyone is carrying on about how bad sodomy is, and how it is a sin in the eyes of God, but not a single one of them condemn Texas' decision to legalize it for 97% of their citizens.

That's because it is typical "laws for thee but not for me" religious hypocrisy.

7 posted on 06/27/2003 9:52:12 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: MHGinTN
Marvin, when you enter into a marriage, you enter into it with an agreement to not committ adultery.

Adultery is not illegal anywhere as far as I know, but this decision would not impact the right of a spouse to divorce on the grounds of adultery.
8 posted on 06/27/2003 9:54:20 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Cuba será libre...soon.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
That there are laws proscribing adultery will be called into question since the behavior is between 'consenting adults, in private' ... the laws proscribing adultery are now void for anyone wishing to challenge them, thus the protection a spouse had, derived from the legal proscription on adultery, is now void also.
9 posted on 06/27/2003 9:56:51 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Maybe, just maybe, if the citizens of Texas had not decided that they didn't want legal trouble if caught being sodomized by, or sodomizing their wives or sweethearts, we wouldn't be in this mess.

Good point.
If people didn't think they could get away with their hypocrisy and bigotry when it comes to enforcing sodomy laws ONLY against gays...this issue would have NEVER needed to be decided by the Supreme Court.

The people of Texas would have removed these laws from the books years ago.

10 posted on 06/27/2003 9:57:52 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge
"The idea that because police can't peep into peoples bedrooms and bust them for homosexual acts is the end of anything significant in this country is a joke."

Now that you can leave your blinds opened without all those police who used to do all that "peeping," you must be soooo relieved, eh??

11 posted on 06/27/2003 9:58:05 PM PDT by F16Fighter (What color pants-suit did Hitlery wear today?)
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To: MHGinTN
"...the laws proscribing adultery are now void for anyone wishing to challenge them..."

Not at all Marvin, marriage is a contract, and not committing adultery is part of that contract, violating that contract has nothing to do with "privacy".

12 posted on 06/27/2003 9:59:10 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Cuba será libre...soon.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I see you don't want to get the point. So be it.
13 posted on 06/27/2003 10:00:12 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
No Marvin, your point is wrong.

One thing has nothing to do with the other no matter how much you want to try and make it fit.

If you enter into a marriage contract with an agreement of monogamy, there is no "privacy" protection if you break that contract.
14 posted on 06/27/2003 10:04:16 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Cuba será libre...soon.)
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To: MHGinTN
... the laws proscribing adultery are now void for anyone wishing to challenge them, thus the protection a spouse had, derived from the legal proscription on adultery, is now void also.

Sorry but this is one more illogical disconnected conclusion regarding the Supreme Court ruling.

Adultery is a violation of the marriage contract whether it is public or private.

Saying consenting adults may have sex in private without the sex police breaking down their door and arresting them...doesn't free anybody from their marriage vows and responsibilities.

16 posted on 06/27/2003 10:07:44 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Get used to it. The sound and fury doesn't address the opinion. I read it, I read Bowers, I chased the statutes, and I came to the same conclusion that the Supremes came to as well.

The blame should be laid squarely on the shoulders of the Texas legislature and courts for writing, charging, and sentencing this abomination.

The one thing from the opinion that no one is talking about is what justice Kennedy wrote, "...They [the police] entered an apartment where one of the petitioners, John Geddes Lawrence, resided. The right of the police to enter does not seem to have been questioned."

17 posted on 06/27/2003 10:11:54 PM PDT by nunya bidness (It's not an assault weapon, it's a Homeland Defense Rifle.)
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To: F16Fighter
"The idea that because police can't peep into peoples bedrooms and bust them for homosexual acts is the end of anything significant in this country is a joke."

Now that you can leave your blinds opened without all those police who used to do all that "peeping," you must be soooo relieved, eh??

I wouldn't know. Not everybody views this decision from your perspective.

But once again we do see that those who cannot challenge a post on it's merits need to resort to juvenile wise-cracks.

18 posted on 06/27/2003 10:13:22 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: TLBSHOW
Excellent article by Mr. Limbaugh. What so many people are overlooking is that the main issue here is not sodomy but our Constitutional system of government. This decision, like Roe thirty years ago, was an instance of judicial fiat -- the majority of nine black-robed lawyers simply decided to overturn a state law they didn't like, disregarding precedent and the Constitution itself.
19 posted on 06/27/2003 10:20:45 PM PDT by Rebellans (No more Souters!)
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