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N.J. GAY DUOS SUE TO MARRY
New York Post ^ | 6/28/03 | JOE McGURK

Posted on 06/28/2003 1:07:17 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:15:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

June 28, 2003 -- Seven same-sex couples began fighting yesterday for the right to get married in New Jersey

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gay; homosexual; homosexualagenda; samesexmarriage
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1 posted on 06/28/2003 1:07:17 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; ...
Taking their clue from the Supreme Court ruling that keeps government "out of the bedroom", the gay lobby will now attempt to push the envelope with ...

"The government should not interfere with anyone who wants to marry."

Idiots! The government does not interfere with anyone who "qualifies" to marry. So, phase 2, challenge the qualifications.

3 posted on 06/28/2003 4:41:46 AM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: kattracks
"The government should not interfere with anyone who wants to marry."

Sounds like the same argument being used by NAMBLA, Pedophiles, Polygamous, and Animal lovers.

4 posted on 06/28/2003 4:44:12 AM PDT by darkwing104
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To: NYer
Give them an inch....
5 posted on 06/28/2003 4:55:43 AM PDT by Desdemona
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To: kattracks
If the 2002 NJ senate race is an indication how the courts in the state work, be prepared for anything. All it takes is it to become legal in 1 state and it becomes legal in all 50.
6 posted on 06/28/2003 5:03:32 AM PDT by rmmcdaniell
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To: kattracks
Why just couples?
7 posted on 06/28/2003 5:09:53 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
This nation has been sodomized by the U.S. Supreme Court.

Next, they are coming for marriage and then the children.
8 posted on 06/28/2003 5:18:31 AM PDT by tomahawk
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To: NYer
Homosexuals cannot marry, because marriage is between a man and a woman only. Otherwise it does not meet the definition of marriage. By the same token, homosexuals cannot by definition have sex, because the act they perform is not sex.
10 posted on 06/28/2003 5:21:57 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Demonrat nightmare
The lawsuit in New Jersey began at least a year ago. It's pure luck that they appeared before the court the same week that Lawrence was decided.

Incidentially, a friend of a friend is working on the case for the New Jersey Attorney General and he said that Scalia's dissent was the worst thing that could have happened to the state's argument. The most prominent conservative justice in the country conceded that the grounds for opposing gay marriage were "shaky" in light of the new ruling. Thanks, Antonin.
11 posted on 06/28/2003 5:26:46 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: Zack Nguyen
"Homosexuals cannot marry, because marriage is between a man and a woman only. Otherwise it does not meet the definition of marriage."

They will just change the definitions again. Not long ago homosexual activity was medically considered a mental defect. Now it's being pushed as the norm.

12 posted on 06/28/2003 5:35:59 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: kattracks
argued for two hours that the state's prohibition of same-sex marriages leaves them without the basic rights afforded to married couples.

Exactly what rights are they talking about? Do married people get rights denied unmarried homo duos?

13 posted on 06/28/2003 5:41:32 AM PDT by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: tomahawk; kattracks
Next, they are coming for marriage and then the children.

Too late! Government schools already have the children. Brainwashing begins in Kindergarten with the sex ed programs that normalize homosexuality. It continues in Middle and High School with "Day of Silence" where students who support GLBT hold up cards asking teachers to "understand" their silence on behalf of those who have no voice. And, oh yeah, most schools have GLBT clubs. Not to be outdone, PETA makes their voice heard in the government schools as well, handing out literature on vegetarianism.

(Sigh) like a snowball rolling down a hill, the GLBT lobbies have taken this country by siege while we sit back and discuss its ramifications in forums such as this.

14 posted on 06/28/2003 5:56:09 AM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: AppyPappy; kattracks; drstevej; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Why just couples?

The following commentary by Dwight Longenecker is an astute commentary on the next wave of lawsuits. Enjoy!

WHY NOT BI-SEXUAL POLYGAMY?

Where we're headed <

I was fascinated by the detail of one comment from a Canadian that folks North of the Border have put a new item on the liberal agenda: they want to recognise polygamy between people of various sexual inclinations.

Here's how the argument will go: Let's imagine things just ten or twenty years down the line.

By now homosexual 'marriage' is accepted as a mainstream alternative. But what about those people who live in a threesome? Why shouldn't they get 'married'? The permutations are endless: a homosexual man with another man and his wife, a lesbian with her girlfriend and her girlfriend's husband, a man who simply wants two or three or however many wives, a woman who wants to have two or three or more husbands. A man who's had a sex change living with another man and his wife....

When you think about it, there is even less Biblical opposition to polygamy than to homosexuality. In fact, as far as I know there is no Biblical condemnation of polygamy. In fact, you could say there is downright support for polygamy--the patriarchs were polygamous. Christians in Africa might support it as it is a part of their recent traditions. The Mormons would support it.

Liberal Christians would say, 'Isn't this a better alternative to divorce?' Instead of Sally divorcing John and marrying Harry she could just marry Harry too. That way the children would have not just one father but two! Wouldn't that be great! What a great big, loving family! Utilitarian arguments for polygamy are endless. By marrying extra wives or husbands you cut divorce costs, you lower your overheads, you can combine incomes and have a better standard of living, more hands to help with the children and housework, a renewal of the extended family... blah blah blah...

Think of the benefit for relationships. If George is married to Mildred, but admits that he sometimes has homosexual inclinations he doesn't need to sneak around and be hypocritial and deceitful. He doesn't need to 'repress' his sexuality. He can just marry his boyfriend and that way they can all be 'fulfilled.'

Liberal Theologians will call this 'triune marriage'. They will spin theories about how this reflects the Holy Trinity, and how it is a fuller, richer and more mature understanding of Christian marriage. Sexologists will explain how a marriage with homosexuality as an integral part will enhance and fulfill the 'maleness' and 'femaleness' in all the partners.

You know, without any authority and with a bit of imagination, you can make elephants fly.


15 posted on 06/28/2003 6:17:43 AM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: NYer
Funny how just a day or two ago, there were people defending this decision and saying we (and Justice Scalia) were overreacting in our fears that it would be used to try to sue for "gay marriage." Here we are two days later, and exactly that is happening.

To those people I say: I hate to say "I told you so," but...I told you so.

16 posted on 06/28/2003 6:31:32 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: NYer
I wonder how long it will take before some of our wonderful Catholic bishops will start advocating for gay couples' right to a church sanctified marriage?
17 posted on 06/28/2003 6:42:11 AM PDT by k omalley
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To: k omalley; B Knotts
I wonder how long it will take before some of our wonderful Catholic bishops will start advocating for gay couples' right to a church sanctified marriage?

Interesting that you should point this out. Many of us are wondering WHERE is the reaction of the USCCB or the Vatican to the Supreme Court ruling? Check the USCCB web site or Zenit News Agency and you will find no comments! NONE! The silence is deafening.

18 posted on 06/28/2003 6:47:05 AM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: NYer
The Vatican is silent because.....3 guesses.

But the Pope sure jumped up and sang when we got on the "Road to Baghdad".

19 posted on 06/28/2003 6:55:20 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Demonrat nightmare
Or from under a rock.
20 posted on 06/28/2003 7:01:25 AM PDT by Vaduz
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