"Dancing with Terrorists" - This time Condoleezza Rice with terrorist Abu Mazen (*PICS too)

Yahoo! Pictures ^ | 6/28/2003

[yonif]

Is it acceptable for country, the US fighting terrorism, to smile to a terrorist leader who:

1. Denies the Holocaust

2. Took part in terrorist activities such as planning the 1972 Munich Olympics Massacre

3. Co-founded with Arafat the PLO which has been reponsible for thousands of Israeli deaths and over 60 American deaths

4. Supports the destruction of our friend Israel

5. Heads the PA who oversees the PA-controlled media which made racist comments about Rice just a few days ago

6. During the Oslo Accords that failed, he was deputy of Arafat all along

7. Met with the Arab Refrigerator Bomber of 1976 which killed over a dozen Israelis and shook hands with him after being released by Israel as a "confidence-making gesture"

8. Has no intention on removing terrorism but buying them time to rearm and regroup

9. Has hands full of innocents blood.

US national security adviser Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites), center, shakes hands with Palestinian cabinet affairs minister Yasser Abed Rabbo as foreign minister Nabil Shaath, right, and Prime Minister Mahmud Abbas, 2nd left, look on prior to their talks in the West Bank town of Jericho , Saturday June 28 2003. Rice launched a crucial visit aimed at pushing along an internationally-backed Middle East peace initiative. Man at extreme left is unidentified. (AP Photo/Awad Awad, pool)

Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas, right, shakes hands with U.S. National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites) during their meeting in the West Bank town of Jericho Saturday June 28, 2003. Rice held talks with Abbas as she launched a crucial visit aimed at pushing along an internationally-backed Middle East peace initiative. (AP Photo/Awad Awad, Pool)

Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas, right, escorts U.S. National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites) prior to their meeting in the West Bank town of Jericho Saturday, June 28, 2003. Rice held talks with Abbas as she launched a crucial visit aimed at pushing along an internationally-backed Middle East peace initiative. (AP Photo/Awad, Pool)

U.S. National Security Adviser Condolezza Rice, left, talks with Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas as Cabinet Affairs Minister Yasser Abed Rabbo, third left, Foreign Minister Nabil Shaath, fourth left, Finance Minister Salam Fayad, fifth left, Information Minister Nabil Amr, sixth from left, and Internal Security Minister Mohammed Dahlan look on prior to their meeting in the West Bank town of Jericho, Saturday June 28, 2003. Rice held talks with Abbas as she launched a crucial visit aimed atpushing along an internationally-backed Middle East peace initiative. (AP Photo/Awad, Pool)

Oh great, the terrorist Dahlan responsible for crushing feet of children at a children bus bombing was there too

Oh and let's not forget this one from last week

[yonif]

Here we go again

[theFIRMbss]

>Is it acceptable for country, the US fighting terrorism

In the modern world,
"acceptable" is defined
just as anything

someone in power
wants. Post-grad academics
work out why it's right...

[dennisw]

 

             OY!

[LarryM]

We need to face facts: the Bush Administration is too far gone in its appeasement of terrorists to have any further credibility in the war on terror. The war on terror is over and the terrorists have won.

[dennisw]

Condi doesn't look too happy. Like she's in the middle of a Klan rally.

Her pantsuits have 2000% more class than Hillary's.

[Valin]

Rice Meets With Palestinian Leader Abbas
LARA SUKHTIAN
Associated Press


JERICHO, West Bank - Seeking to advance a U.S.-backed peace plan, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice held talks with the Palestinian prime minister on Saturday, a day ahead of an expected truce announcement by Palestinian militants.

Rice's first stop was in the West Bank city of Jericho, where she and Abbas met at a plush hotel. Before the meeting, Abbas said he would press her for guarantees on the release of Palestinian prisoners held by Israel.

Rice will meet with Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon on Sunday, when militant groups are planning a formal announcement that they are halting attacks against Israelis for three months. However, some militants suggested the announcement might be delayed a day.

Together with a preliminary agreement by Israel to withdraw troops from the Gaza Strip and West Bank town of Bethlehem, a truce could provide a major boost to the "road map" peace plan launched by President Bush at a June 4 Mideast summit.

Violence has plagued attempts to implement the road map, a blueprint to end 33 months of fighting and establish a Palestinian state by 2005. On Saturday, at least one vehicle in a convoy of U.S. diplomatic cars traveling in Gaza was damaged after two explosive devices blew up, Israel's military said. No injuries were reported and U.S. embassy officials refused to comment or give more details.

The Syrian-based leaders of the two main Islamic groups, Islamic Jihad and the larger Hamas group, agreed to a truce earlier in the week, according to a Palestinian legislator involved in the negotiations. But Gaza-based militants initially denied there was a deal, then said details remained to be worked out.

"We have accepted a conditional cease-fire for three months," Mohammed al-Hindi, an Islamic Jihad leader in Gaza, told The Associated Press on Saturday, in the first on-the-record confirmation of the truce from a militant leader.

Ramadan Shalah, the main Islamic Jihad leader based in Damascus, told the Dubai-based Al Arabiya satellite channel that Islamic Jihad "has agreed with the Hamas movement and the Fatah movement to suspend military operations" against Israel. He said he expected an announcement Sunday.

Hamas leaders also have said they agreed to a truce but will only formally declare their acceptance in a joint document still being finalized.

The truce, first reported by the AP on Wednesday, applies to the West Bank and Gaza, as well as Israel, fulfilling a key Israeli demand.

A formal announcement was expected Sunday, but Al-Hindi said it could be put off until Monday, if necessary.

Intensive meetings continued Saturday among Islamic Jihad, Hamas and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's Fatah faction to work out the final wording of the truce announcement.

There also were efforts to bring 10 smaller factions on board. At least one of them, the radical Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, appeared to be holding out approval, a Palestinian negotiator said on condition of anonymity.

A number of West Bank leaders, speaking in the name of the Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, also complained in a statement that they had not been consulted on the deal. The Brigades are loosely linked to Fatah.

It remains to be seen whether all militants will comply with a truce announcement. The Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades in particular are composed of many rebellious armed gangs scattered throughout the West Bank and thought to be difficult to control.

Israel and the United States also have given the emerging truce a lukewarm response, saying armed groups should be dismantled as required by the road map. Palestinian officials fear a crackdown could trigger a civil war and have opted instead for persuasion.

The White House welcomed a preliminary agreement Friday to turn over security responsibility in Gaza and Bethlehem to the Palestinian Authority, calling it a "first significant joint step toward implementation of commitments" Israeli and Palestinian leaders made at the summit with Bush.

The road map requires that Israeli forces gradually withdraw to positions held before the outbreak of fighting in September 2000.

Israel was "cautiously optimistic" about the pullback arrangements, Foreign Ministry Spokesman Yonatan Peled said Saturday, but expected the Palestinian Authority to "keep a lid on terrorist activity emanating from the Gaza Strip."

The deal, reached in talks between Palestinian security chief Mohammed Dahlan and Israel's Maj. Gen. Amos Gilad, came with a pledge by Israel to halt targeted killings of wanted Palestinians - one of the militants' key demands for continuing with a truce.

Palestinians in turn agreed to act against what Israel calls "ticking bombs" - assailants on their way to attack Israelis. But Peled said Israel reserved the right to go after assailants themselves if Palestinians failed to do so.

Arafat's Fatah approved the deal at its weekly Saturday meeting. Details of how to implement it were to be worked out at meetings Sunday in Gaza and Bethlehem.

The progress in negotiations was accompanied by mounting pressure by Palestinians for guarantees regarding the release of prisoners.

A noisy crowd gathered outside of Abbas' office Saturday in the West Bank town of Ramallah, demanding he raise the issue with Rice.

Plunging into the crowd, Abbas demanded a loudspeaker and shouted: "There will be no peace or security if even one Palestinian prisoner remains behind bars. Be sure that we will exert our utmost in order to empty all prisons of prisoners."

Peled said Israel already has released some prisoners as a good-will gesture and was "definitely willing" to release more, "but only after we see some steps, some action, some responsibility" taken by Abbas.

Rice planned to continue talks with Palestinian officials on Sunday, while lower-level U.S., Israeli and Palestinian officials held separate trilateral meetings.

She was due to meet Sunday with Sharon and, separately, with Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom and Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz.

[Khurkris]

Is it 'acceptable'? No, I would much prefer she let the POS hold a round in an eye socket, but that ain't gonna happen.

Before we start with the anti-Bush screed lets see what happens here. Political reality is a nasty game. Until we decide to be as nasty as the other actors we will continue to wail and moan in suffering.

What alternantive are you offering?

[america-rules]

"We need to face facts: the Bush Administration is too far gone in its appeasement of terrorists to have any further credibility in the war on terror. The war on terror is over and the terrorists have won. "

I guess you think it's better for us to spend 10 Billion per year protecting the Israelies and let them kill each other another 50 yeras?

[MEG33]

Good question

[KriegerGeist]

Making a "Roadmap" that would thwart God's plan for His land that He gave Israel forever will cost G. W. Bush his 2004 re-election. It will also cost this nation in yet to be determined disaster.

You don't mess with God's plans and get away un-scathed. Hypocrisy also doesn't sit well with God...making Israel put up with and give up what we ourselves never would.

Check this out:

LINK TO Disaster Article

[MEG33]

Bush didn't "Make" the roadmap.Israel has not "approved" the roadmap.

[squidly]

"Making a "Roadmap" that would thwart God's plan for His land that He gave Israel forever will cost G. W. Bush his 2004 re-election. It will also cost this nation in yet to be determined disaster"

Go ahead and vote for Dean if that'll make you feel better about things. I'm sure that will change the situation in Israel for the better.

[sheik yerbouty]

Condi, I believe, is making him "an offer he can't refyse".

[ErnBatavia]

You know, if the Jews won't put some things behind them, and if the Arabs won't put some things behind them....well, this violence will go on forever.

All the more power to this administration if it can broker some sort of peace.

[Republican Wildcat]

Please give me a break.

[Diddle E. Squat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, scripture was being similarly misinterpreted back around AD 70.

Whatever happened to the Temple, and who won at Masada?

[TLBSHOW]

BUMP

[MEG33]

What is your solution?

[Lijahsbubbe]

Condoleeza met the terrorists at
Jericho
Jericho
Jericho

Condoleeza met the terrorists at
Jericho
As the world turned upside down

[CobaltBlue]

Don't forget Bar Kocheba, who the Rabbis thought was the real Messia, which led to the Second Jewish Revolt. That got the Jews thrown out of Jerusalem completely. Hadrian renamed Jerusalem Aelia Capitolina and built a temple to Jupiter on the ruins of the Second Temple.
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/History/timeline.html#rome

However, despite the fact that many Jews insist that the Romans threw them out of their ancestral homeland and therefore they have the right to take it back, the truth is that some stayed and many if not most of the others left voluntarily. At least so says the Jewish Agency for Israel, an organization set up by the World Zionist Conference.
http://www.jafi.org.il/education/100/concepts/gola3.html

[CobaltBlue]

Yonif's solution is to forcibly resettle the Palestinians into Jordan. We discussed this several days ago.

[CobaltBlue]

If God wants the Jews to have Israel, God is perfectly capable of making that happen without billions of dollars of American money.

[verity]

BS

[MEG33]

How can this be accomplished?

[GOPyouth]

The war on terror is over and the terrorists have won.

So I suspect you're going to go ahead and kill yourself?? I mean, if the terrorists have won, then there is nothing worth living for. I will be expecting to see your obit here shortly. The world has come to an end, so go ahead and do it.
</lot of sarcasm>

[CobaltBlue]

>>How can this be accomplished?<<

Ask Yonif, not me. I think Divine Intervention or something. The fact that the Jordanians already tried assimilating the Palestinians seems to be ignored. There's a reason the Jordanians gave up all claims to Transjordan. They don't want the Palestinians.

[BenR2]

I guess you think it's better for us to spend 10 Billion per year protecting the Israelies and let them kill each other another 50 yeras?


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No, I think it is better if we UNLEASH the Israelis and allow them to CLEAN HOUSE, so that we ALL can "move on," as the President is so fond of saying.

[RIGHT IN SEATTLE]

TOKEN CRAP!!!!!!

[BenR2]

Yonif's solution is to forcibly resettle the Palestinians into Jordan. We discussed this several days ago.


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How about: into Jordan AND IRAQ?

[BenR2]

If God wants the Jews to have Israel, God is perfectly capable of making that happen without billions of dollars of American money.

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True. Still, the LORD takes notes on how each nation and individual treats Ha'Am Yisrael. And, therefore, it is in our own best interests to help Israel.

However, we are NOT really helping them now. Our aid now seems to be a bribe to make them commit suicide on the Road to Peace/Nowhere.

[MEG33]

Thanks.

[wingnuts'nbolts]

What could GW do to thwart plans in place since the beginning of time?

[MEG33]

Send flowers or donate to favorite charity!?

[RusIvan]

True. Still, the LORD takes notes on how each nation and individual treats Ha'Am Yisrael. And, therefore, it is in our own best interests to help Israel. ===

God takes notes?:) Why? He is Almighty and see, hear and just know everything. He don't need to remember. He is not mortal. He is eternity so don't feel time.
God expelled and dispersed jews from that place in first place. Now they gathered in there again. Who knows is it forth or against His Will?

[gedeon3]

'God expelled and dispersed jews from that place in first place. Now they gathered in there again. Who knows is it forth or against His Will?'

Wrong bubba. God expelled them and God gathered them again. If you want to know God's will, read the bible. And do not ask me to tell you where to read. Find it yourself if you have a bible. Also read about the end times, where 'books will be opened' the day of judgement; and they will not be blank.

[RusIvan]

Wrong bubba. God expelled them and God gathered them again. If you want to know God's will, read the bible. ===

Thank you. I read Bible time to time. As teaching book It is same way history book. There no mention what happens after New Testament.
The dispersion of jews happend after and continues now how else jews still live in other countries while Israel is created? One may think that today Israel isn't genuine because jews themsleves in great number don't like to go live there.
So what have to be now is not in Bible. We can only imagine.

[Brian S]

[yonif]

Yonif's solution is to forcibly resettle the Palestinians into Jordan. We discussed this several days ago.

No it is not.

1. GO into the territories uproot terrorism, infrastructure, collect weapons, kill or arrest terrorists and their leaders

2. Recognize that the "Palestinians" are the responsibility of Jordan

3. Give money to those who want to leave to resettle in Arab countries, making them sign a contract they will never return

4. All those remaining Arabs living in the territories will stay there, but have Jordanian citizenship and will just be living in those areas which are part of Israel.

5. Also give money to Jordan so it tries to make people come over the border.

[yonif]

Yonif's solution is to forcibly resettle the Palestinians into Jordan. We discussed this several days ago.

No it is not.

1. GO into the territories uproot terrorism, infrastructure, collect weapons, kill or arrest terrorists and their leaders

2. Recognize that the "Palestinians" are the responsibility of Jordan

3. Give money to those who want to leave to resettle in Arab countries, making them sign a contract they will never return

4. All those remaining Arabs living in the territories will stay there, but have Jordanian citizenship and will just be living in those areas which are part of Israel.

5. Also give money to Jordan so it tries to make people come over the border.

[yonif]

If God wants the Jews to have Israel, God is perfectly capable of making that happen without billions of dollars of American money.

God has given Israel a strong army and confident military leaders for the Jews to have Israel.

[KriegerGeist]

"What could GW do to thwart plans in place since the beginning of time?"

"What 'could' GW do?" It's not a mastter of what he 'could do', it's a matter of what he 'should do'.

President Bush should break away from the anti-Israel-anti-Semitic U.S. Department of State and support Israel to defend itself in an all-out defeat of terrorism just as the U.S. is.
Let Israel (even support them) to send the Palestinians packing back to Jordan where they belong. Let Israel destroy Hamas, Hisbolah, Islamic Jihad, Abu Sayeff...et. al. based and headquartered in Syria. Drive the Syrians out of Lebanon for them and us as well.

Let Israel expand to develope and settle in any area of land that is the God given land they posess and occupy that is within the "Prommised Land" boundries.

That is only my belief and if that were the case, I believe this nation would again receive God's blessing...

But, what do I know??

[CobaltBlue]

Sorry if I thought your solution included the use of force. My recollection is that I asked if the solution was to throw the Palestinians out of Gaza and the West Bank and you said yes.

At any rate, I see no indication that the King of Jordan wants the Palestinians to become Jordanians. Do you? My understanding is that this was tried and failed miserably.

[CobaltBlue]

I've often wondered whether America is the new promised land.

Americans live in peace and plenty, but the preachers are always telling us that God is mad at us.

The Israelis could have a very good life but the Arabs won't let them, and these are the people that God loves the best?

Go figure.

[Thinkin' Gal]

Josep Pique, come on down..

[Honestfreedom]

I guarantee you that the price tag of this so called peace will be huge for the Americans. We always give money to the Israelis after we persuade them to give up their strategic depth. I would prefer we cut the aid and let them take care of their defense needs.

[Registered]

bump

[BenR2]

God takes notes?:) Why? He is Almighty and see, hear and just know everything. He don't need to remember. He is not mortal. He is eternity so don't feel time.
God expelled and dispersed jews from that place in first place. Now they gathered in there again. Who knows is it forth or against His Will?

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Good point: I stand corrected. Perhaps I should not have said that God "take notes." However, he DOES TAKE NOTE of HOW individuals and nations treat Israel.

I can guarantee you that -- though it may well be God's will that Israel be deprived of some of its territories for a time -- the LORD will NOT deal kindly with those who do the depriving. (A bit of a paradox, no?) The primary verse on which I was basing my first post is: Gen 12:3 "And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed."

[BenR2]

God has given Israel a strong army and confident military leaders for the Jews to have Israel.


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HaShem has angelic armies under the lead of the Archangel Michael that are invisible to the naked eye who are able to fight Israel's enemies. (However, He has not unleashed them for awhile.)

[Yehuda]

And yours and the WH's plan seems to be to throw 250,000 Jews out of Judea and Samaria and create YET ANOTHER UNNECESARRY ARTIFICIAL ARAB TERROR-EXPORTING STATE, THIS TIME IN THE HEART OF AMERICA'S BIGGEST HI-TECH ALLY.

Yeah, you all get genius awards; you didn't have the balls to invade Iraq without selling Israel out to the Saudis.