TEEN People Mag: Born with the wrong body - Transgender teens... (MEGA-BARF ALERT)

Teen People Magazine | June / July 2003 | Stephanie Booth

[I_Love_My_Husband]

Cal, you're right it's propaganda but I'm sure it's a true article.

I think putting it in a teen's magazine is not a good idea. And it's lowering the bar, making it appear "normal" to be this way!

[andysandmikesmom]

I surely do know what I am talking about...try watching a few documentaries about this subject...Its not something I am making up... Hermaphroditism may be rare, but it does exist...

There were several people in this group of people who had been through gender reassignment surgeries when very young children...the advice of the docs was, that they, the doctors would make the hest choice that they could, and that the parents should treat the child as if the child was born that gender...sometimes, it apparently was the wrong choice, at least according to these people who had the surgeries done as babies or small children....

And as far as I am concerned, what you think about what I do or dont know is irrelevant.

[Imal]

Everyone knows teenagers are knowledgeable and mature enough to make major life-changing decisions like this. That's why we never have trouble with them.

[hellinahandcart]

Neither of the kids in the article are hermaphrodites.

What we have is a lesbian who wants to live as a heterosexual male, and a heterosexual male who wants to live as..a lesbian, I suppose, since he's not attracted to men.

Their problem isn't physical, it's mental.

[Houmatt]

There were several people in this group of people who had been through gender reassignment surgeries when very young children...

So what? The only thing that is being done is removing one type of genitalia in favor of another, and hoping in the 50-50 chance that exists that when the physical gender manifests itself it will be the right one.

How does that equate to God being fallible? Because this is not something God is doing, it is something parents are doing to a young child.

[andysandmikesmom]

You are entirely missing my point...there are people saying that God does not make mistakes, and that the way a baby is born is not a mistake...I did not say that God made a mistake, what I said was that not all babies are born perfect, as some would assert, because they are claiming that God makes no mistakes...

Obviously there are babies born all the time, with birth defects, some minor, some serious, even life threatening...and those birth defects can be resolved, often surgically, giving the baby a wonderful chance at life...the parents are also doing that to their child, because it is giving the child a good chance at life...

No one is blaming God for anything..There are those who would say, that God created that child with its birth defects, others would say that the child was created perfect and something else caused the birth defects...fixing the birth defects is not a matter of laying blame on anyone...its a matter of trying to do what is in the best interest of the child...

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

It sounded as though the girl wanted to be a boy from the time she was little. I wonder what to do about such things. Maybe she/he is intersexed, or maybe just needs estrogen therapy. She certainly does not have the um--equipment to be dating other girls...

[Calpernia]

AGREED! I think this nonesense can be stopped too. If I can figure out how to organize everyone. I'm working on that now.

[Jhoffa_]

When I was 11, I told my parents I was a lesbian. They're former hippies and really open-minded, so they were totally supportive. They encouraged me to attend a gay-lesbian support group...

Now, why am I not surprised..?

[I_Love_My_Husband]

Attending a gay/lesbian support group at ELEVEN?!?!

Yikes!

Hippies are the worst parents...the worst. I've met so many that are permanently screwed up. Why Courtney Love comes to mind. She was never allowed to play with Barbie dolls or dolls or wear dresses or girl stuff. Her mother wanted "gender neutral" things for her.

She hates her mother btw and though very screwed up is a libertarian and was pro-war.

[Jhoffa_]

The "support group" is bad enough.. Think about doctor who cut off her breasts and the parents who signed a concent form to allow that.

There's so much dysfunction here, I don't know what's more painful to consider.. the confused girl or her brain dead parents.

[lepton]

They don't fit right, either.

I should have thought of that too.

...and I'm not going to where the literal intersection of your words and mine lead. Not gonna do it. :)

[weegee]

Would a psychiatrist or doctor be as interested in helping an anorexic person achieve his or her "ideal" bodytype?

[Old Professer]

Reminds of my own childhood; when I was 11 I realized I had never really been comfortable being a bou, I knew that somehow it wasn't quite right.

Secretly, I started reading about ways that I could affirm my true identity, and then I saved up my allowance money and sent off for what I would need.

The day they arrived I spent hours in my room, looking at the wondrous piece of paper that would tell the world what I truly was, over and over between my hands I passed the magic appliance that, once donned, would make my transition complete.

Finally, with great ceremony I bathed and dressed in my new persona and went downstairs to face my family and the world, proud to the soles of my feet for what I had become - imagine my horror when, just as I walked in the kitchen, my father dropped his coffee cup and laughed aloud, beating himself on the head he cried, "Get those damned, funny-looking ears off your head and get ready for school.

[weegee]

Let me get this straight...this little girl had a 'gene' that told her that boys hair is short? And that girls 'genes' have a 'I want to wear a dress' code; which she didn't have?

Wow! this is a scientific break! But we better inform the rest of planet earth that has all kinds of hair styles and clothing styles for males and females from ours that their children are mutants...

"Help! I'm a Japanese male trapped in an American-Scotch-Pole's body!" Can I become a transnational? Can I get a government subsidy for elective surgery to make me more closely resemble my imagined brethern?

We are born naked. All clothing decisions are cultural fashion.

[brianl703]

Gender identity confusion is associated with Borderline Personality Disorder.

As well:

"One prominent environmental antecedent to BPD is a history of abuse or neglect. Many studies suggest a high proportion of borderline patients have experienced some form of abuse, particularly sexual abuse, during their development. While it is not clear that BPD over other personality disorders always have a demonstrated increased history of abuse, there is no doubt that the history of abuse is common in personality disorder patients, particularly in BPD patients."

[weegee]

[longtermmemmory]

Perhaps young boys being raised by militant feminists who hate men are going to have some SERIOUS disorders. With the current state of the the PC mental health services, they are doomed.

[chuknospam]

I'm Fed Up To The Gills. I've seen the homos here having sex in the open, etc. It's all about sex to them. That's what their lives are based on.

You hit the nail on the head. I don't have a problem with what people decide to do in their bedrooms, dungeons, bath houses etc. When they have parades and special days dedicated to their "lifestyle" then I have a problem. If they are performing acts in public, I have a problem. Their life centers around their sexuality, that's unhealthy, but fine-, just keep it to themselves, don't preach it to kids as being normal because it isn't. You can have massive Gay Day celebrations and pervert parades with people decked out in their S&M gear but try and have a Christian Parade, say one at Easter where Christ is displayed on a cross and abortion is brought to people's attention, marriage and the family is celebrated and see the kind of resistance and protests that you get, lawsuits against the city for allowing/sactioning it, etc.

[Vaduz]

There bodies are ok it's just there brains are missingn