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Frist Wants Constitutional Amendment Banning Gay Marriage
Yahoo! ^ | June 29, 2003

Posted on 06/29/2003 5:51:41 PM PDT by mrobison

By WILLIAM C. MANN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - The Senate majority leader said Sunday he supported a proposed constitutional amendment to ban homosexual marriage in the United States.

 

Sen. Bill Frist (news, bio, voting record), R-Tenn., said the Supreme Court's decision last week on gay sex threatens to make the American home a place where criminality is condoned.

The court on Thursday threw out a Texas law that prohibited acts of sodomy between homosexuals in a private home, saying that such a prohibition violates the defendants' privacy rights under the Constitution. The ruling invalidated the Texas law and similar statutes in 12 other states.

"I have this fear that this zone of privacy that we all want protected in our own homes is gradually — or I'm concerned about the potential for it gradually being encroached upon, where criminal activity within the home would in some way be condoned," Frist told ABC's "This Week."

"And I'm thinking of — whether it's prostitution or illegal commercial drug activity in the home — ... to have the courts come in, in this zone of privacy, and begin to define it gives me some concern."

Asked whether he supported an amendment that would ban any marriage in the United States except a union of a man and a woman, Frist said: "I absolutely do, of course I do.

"I very much feel that marriage is a sacrament, and that sacrament should extend and can extend to that legal entity of a union between — what is traditionally in our Western values has been defined — as between a man and a woman. So I would support the amendment."

Same-sex marriages are legal in Belgium and the Netherlands. Canada's Liberal government announced two weeks ago that it would enact similar legislation soon.

Rep. Marilyn Musgrave, R-Colo., was the main sponsor of the proposal offered May 21 to amend the Constitution. It was referred to the House Judiciary subcommittee on the Constitution on Wednesday, the day before the high court ruled.

As drafted, the proposal says:

"Marriage in the United States shall consist only of the union of a man and a woman. Neither this Constitution nor the constitution of any state under state or federal law shall be construed to require that marital status or the legal incidents thereof be conferred upon unmarried couples or groups."

To be added to the Constitution, the proposal must be approved by two-thirds of the House and the Senate and ratified by three-fourths of the states.

Frist said Sunday he respects the Supreme Court decision but feels the justices overstepped their bounds.

"Generally, I think matters such as sodomy should be addressed by the state legislatures," Frist said. "That's where those decisions — with the local norms, the local mores — are being able to have their input in reflected.

"And that's where it should be decided, and not in the courts."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: activistcourt; activistsupremecourt; downourthroats; eubanks; homosexualagenda; lawrencevtexas; marriagelaws; roberteubanks; samesexdisorder; samesexmarriage; tennessee; texas
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To: deport
Americaunited...... Where did you get the numbers (1% and 95%) you cited in your post #12?

Took a wild guess.

341 posted on 06/30/2003 12:51:32 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And those were a bunch of San Francisco drag queens flying those planes into buildings, working on terrorist plans against this country, laundering money, running North Korea, Iran, Indonesia and the Sudan, preaching about the heavenly joy of murdering Americans in mosques, and desperately working to destabilize the country here and abroad.

Life has gotten way too serious to put up with hysterical social conservative crap anymore.

What an utterly simple-minded, clueless dimwit! Our response and reactions to these events as a nation is determined by who we are as a people. That is shaped and determined to a large extent by the kind of family we were raised in.

Just as an example, compare Bill Clinton's responses or lack of them to George W. Bush's. One was raised in a totally screwed up family, the other was raised in a decent, normal family.

342 posted on 06/30/2003 1:00:26 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: nwrep
I hope people also thank our own LA congressman for co-sponsoring the bill..he is equally taking flak from the gay hate mail flooding in.
343 posted on 06/30/2003 1:11:33 AM PDT by Windsong
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To: DAnconia55
By "social issues" I didn't mean drug laws, I was referring to welfare state items. My sister, and many other strong practicing Catholics, vote Demodog on the basis of believing it is "right" to redistribute wealth.(redundant period). She is extremely pro-marriage, though, and has been distressed at torn social environment she witnesses as a school nurse. This is a taylor-made issue on which to bring her, and many other Catholics, blacks and others, to a reassessment of her Demodog ties, and could easily lead her to a recognition of the errors of her thinking that giving people something for nothing helps them.

You, friend, are he who is delusional. I will say it one more time: the most telling barometer here will be the silence of the politicians in opposition to this Amendment.
They may vote against it, but they will do so and try to quietly slink away.
344 posted on 06/30/2003 1:11:37 AM PDT by AFPhys (((PRAYING for: President Bush & advisors, troops & families, Americans)))
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Texas enacted a bad law and it got us all in real trouble.

The court ruled all states' sodomy laws unconstitutional, not just those that "discriminated" against homosexual. Quit beating that drum.

The court overturned their previous decision and said that privacy precludes the law from arresting someone for this act (2 members of the same sex or a member of each sex).

This also puts other privacy issues (drugs, prostitution, consensual incest,...) at risk of constitutional challenge too.

345 posted on 06/30/2003 1:35:45 AM PDT by weegee
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To: AFPhys
By "social issues" I didn't mean drug laws, I was referring to welfare state items.My sister, and many other strong practicing Catholics, vote Demodog on the basis of believing it is "right" to redistribute wealth

Those are economic issues.

You, friend, are he who is delusional. I will say it one more time: the most telling barometer here will be the silence of the politicians in opposition to this Amendment.

Nope. Don't misunderstand me. I don't want the gays calling their arrangements marriage. I don't think it's right. It's like calling red blue.

BUT I am very very clear on what happens when you give the Federal Government power to do anything.

Do you want the Federal Government to REGULATE marriage? Because that's what will come of this.
DNA tests?
Blood work, Citizen?
Own any banned firearms, Citizen?
Ooops.. I see you were caught in a protest rally against Hillary, no license for you, Citizen.

Be careful what you wish for.

346 posted on 06/30/2003 1:40:22 AM PDT by DAnconia55 (Fundies are captive voters.)
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To: mrobison
an amendment ?.... never happen....
An amendment mandateing to ALL the reading of TREASON(Ann Coulter)... might work though... would'nt pass but the press coverage and the C-SPAN I & II coverage would be precious... during the committee debate for the ammendment...
347 posted on 06/30/2003 1:46:42 AM PDT by hosepipe
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To: DAnconia55
Get back to me again about just what a losing issue for the GOP this is after the Demodog politicians start their loud opposition to it.
348 posted on 06/30/2003 2:06:43 AM PDT by AFPhys (((PRAYING for: President Bush & advisors, troops & families, Americans)))
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To: mrobison
The Constitution states how the government operates, not how the people are supposed to live.
What a waste! Some of these "legislators" need to go to the back of the class.
349 posted on 06/30/2003 2:36:34 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: knarf
More ammendments are not the answer.

You are to right, they gave one to PIGS here in FL.

350 posted on 06/30/2003 3:56:29 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: DAnconia55
The RR is not 90% of the base. Where do you guys get these stats from?

You must not have gotten the memo, LOL. According to the latest claims, the religious right makes up 487% of the GOP, and puts up all the money and organizational experience, too. The existence of socially moderate GOP members is the figment of some liberal media members' imagination.

351 posted on 06/30/2003 4:33:32 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (I'd put up a sarcasm tag, but I want to see how many of them sign off on it......)
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To: PhiKapMom
Thanks for the ping... passing it on... I have been on Military duty for the past 2 weeks and somewhat out of touch with the news....

H.J.RES.56 Title: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States relating to marriage. Sponsor: Rep Musgrave, Marilyn N. [CO-4] (introduced 5/21/2003) Cosponsors: 25 Latest Major Action: 6/25/2003 Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on the Constitution.

352 posted on 06/30/2003 4:47:57 AM PDT by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: AFPhys
I can think of no better issue for the Congress to spend their time, for on the integrity of the family our society hinges, and we can trace many of our country's recent troubles on its weakening over the past half century.

I agree that society hinges on the integrity of the family, but I wonder whether a Constitutional amendment will impact said integrity either way? Setting aside the fact that I don't think the state need sanction marriage at all (should be a function of the church), one cannot legislate morality and personal responsibility.

If your goal is to increase the level of personal responsibility within our society, I submit a more effective way to do so is to remove those mechanisms that allow IRresponsibility. Namely, the socialist programs that redistribute money and generally remove the consequences of one's actions. That's why I've repeatedly made the point on this thread that I see prescription drug coverage as far more important an issue than this proposed amendment.

353 posted on 06/30/2003 5:00:53 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Better watch yourself. You too may be going to Hell, as I am according to one poster on this thread. LOL.
354 posted on 06/30/2003 5:02:39 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion
I'd modify your proposal a bit. I DO think for legal purposes it makes a ton of sense to differentiate between mere "matings" and relationships from marriages and other binding commitments made by two people because our courts would simply be a mess if every broad I date asserts some claim :)

The simple way to do this is for a civil union to be enshrined in law, but not a license, merely a recognition of the marriage contract. Legally, it could only be between two people and would thus avoid the issue but not to the detriment of a smoothly functioning legal environment.

355 posted on 06/30/2003 5:09:31 AM PDT by Skywalk
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To: NittanyLion
The irony of it is that you won't find any inclination that Christ ever commanded "maketh thee more laws" in the New Testament. The only thing you will find that even comes close is when Christ stops the stoning (their version of punishment of someone society deemed criminal due to the depth of her sin).

The other irony is that even among their own number, there are many who commit sodomistic acts in the marital bed.

356 posted on 06/30/2003 5:14:19 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: mrobison
an amendment that would ban any marriage in the United States except a union of a man and a woman

It should exclude defined incest. (brother and sister etc ...)

357 posted on 06/30/2003 5:15:07 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
And those were a bunch of San Francisco drag queens flying those planes into buildings, working on terrorist plans against this country

Militant sexual decadents give anti-American arguments to the Islamists.

358 posted on 06/30/2003 5:19:02 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: A. Pole; Luis Gonzalez
Militant sexual decadents give anti-American arguments to the Islamists.

Ah. So Islamist standards are something to emulate?

359 posted on 06/30/2003 5:31:47 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Militant sexual decadents give anti-American arguments to the Islamists.

Ah. So Islamist standards are something to emulate?

Are you saying that our only choice is between complete sexual licence and Islamism or between decadence and barbarism? (BTW, as history teaches barbarians defeat decadents in the long run as decadents weaken the civilisation which nourishes them)

360 posted on 06/30/2003 5:38:41 AM PDT by A. Pole
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