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Frist Wants Constitutional Amendment Banning Gay Marriage
Yahoo! ^ | June 29, 2003

Posted on 06/29/2003 5:51:41 PM PDT by mrobison

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To: Kahonek
It is a fact: Churches will be required to perform homosexual marriages or lose their right to perform any marriages.

When this happens, we'll just send the appropriate state authorities to you for values clarification.
402 posted on 06/30/2003 11:13:01 AM PDT by mrobison
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To: mrobison
Impervious to reason, huh? You are thinking only a little more clearly than my tape recorder...
403 posted on 06/30/2003 11:21:18 AM PDT by Kahonek
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To: mrobison
Give me a specific example where one of the previously-mentioned factors was the basis for the Catholic church refusing to perform a marriage.

My wife's cousin was refused marriage in a Florida Catholic Church because, while her husband was Catholic, she was not. Yet this church is still performing marriages.

404 posted on 06/30/2003 11:24:36 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: mrobison
It is a fact: Churches will be required to perform homosexual marriages or lose their right to perform any marriages.

Cite your source or stand discredited. By continuing to spout this nonsense you expose yourself as either ill-informed or deliberately misleading.

What is it about the separation of church and state you can't seem to grasp?

405 posted on 06/30/2003 11:26:32 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: mrobison
It is a fact: Churches will be required to perform homosexual marriages or lose their right to perform any marriages.

Divorce has been legal for several years.

My Church refuses to marry people who have been divorced.

My Church has never been forced to marry divorced people.

Why would my Church be forced to marry practicing homosexuals?

Why is my Church not forced to marry divorcees?

406 posted on 06/30/2003 11:29:34 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: Kahonek; mrobison
You are thinking only a little more clearly than my tape recorder...


Is mrobison is 'bot?

407 posted on 06/30/2003 11:32:29 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: obmot
In short, "special" rights are the very same rights that others already have and take for granted, but who become thoroughly 'annoyed' when granted to others. These are the same sort of people who want a head-start on a sprint race - and get thouroughly angry if forced to begin from the same starting line as everyone else.

Exactly.

408 posted on 06/30/2003 11:32:38 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
as history teaches barbarians defeat decadents in the long run as decadents weaken the civilisation which nourishes them

And from which examples do you come up with THAT fascinating theory?

Oh! Wait! Let me...

Pat Robertons's "How Rome Fell Because of Oral Sex : Vol 1"

Seems to be a favorite of all our Fundie FR brethern.

409 posted on 06/30/2003 11:42:05 AM PDT by DAnconia55 (Fundies are captive voters.)
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To: NittanyLion
I'm not certain everyone understands exactly what sodomy is. I suspect many think it's only an act gay people can commit.

They aren't. And for some of the worse... even when told... they still can't believe that normal hetero people do it. And ask for statistics :)

Which were duly provided... ...and ignored.

410 posted on 06/30/2003 11:44:22 AM PDT by DAnconia55 (Fundies are captive voters. We don't have to cater to them. Ignore them. They have no where to go.)
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To: The Red Zone
Go cook yourself some arroz con pollo.
_________

wow. clearly the funniest and most intelligent post on this thread so far. /sarcasm

411 posted on 06/30/2003 11:55:08 AM PDT by dmz
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To: DAnconia55
Note that I didn't hear a lot back after I pointed out the relevant fact of Rome's official religion at the end.....
412 posted on 06/30/2003 12:08:47 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (...what if the hokey pokey is really what its all about?)
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To: aristeides
You're reading far more into it than is actually there. The SCOTUS did not afford anything to homosexuals that isn't already afforded to heterosexuals. It is easy to be an armchair interpreter of the Constitution, quite another to have the job of doing it as the SCOTUS does. They have made the interpretation differently than you. You don't like their interpretation. There are many interpretations that SCOTUS has made over the decades that many people did not agree with. But the job of making those interpretations is theirs, not yours.
413 posted on 06/30/2003 12:28:58 PM PDT by solomangrundy
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To: nwrep
Congressional email is sorted. You must have a mailing address entered in the email and that address must be in the zone for a congressman's constituents. They then print out that email and reply to it like it was a snail mail letter. All others are deleted.
414 posted on 06/30/2003 12:33:36 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: MarkT
I'm opposed to amending the Constitution, but marriage contracts are a valid enterprise for the state. There's nothing wrong with defining it in the Constitution. My question is how would this affect hermaphrodites?
415 posted on 06/30/2003 12:36:06 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
"My question is how would this affect hermaphrodites?"

Same problem for transsexuals. It depends on the state. Different states define them differently. If the state says they are male, they may only marry females and vice versa.
416 posted on 06/30/2003 12:54:45 PM PDT by Kahonek
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To: mrobison
More Fedgov intrusion...this is a state matter.

Here's an Amendment for you Ms. Musgrave: Congressional term limits with in-session time restraints.

417 posted on 06/30/2003 3:36:30 PM PDT by A Navy Vet ( b)
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To: RobbyS
Do you really want conservative justices who will happily ignore parts of the Constitution they don't like? When a liberal justice does this, it's condemned as "judicial activism". How is it any different when a conservative does it? The proper way to deal with an undesireable ruling from the Supreme Court is to amend the Constitution; not to appoint justices who will tamper with it.
418 posted on 06/30/2003 6:17:42 PM PDT by Redcloak (All work and no FReep makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no FReep make s Jack a dul boy. Allwork an)
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To: steve-b
If you echo the arguments of Islamofascists, people will rightly wonder whose side you're on.

Militant sexual decadents are similar to the free market fundies. The first ones make Islamists look attractive by comparison and the later ones make Commies looking good.

Both groups are busy dismantling Western civilisation from inside. Commies and Islamists do it from outside so they are easier to deal with.

419 posted on 06/30/2003 6:18:55 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: Redcloak
When was the last time that an amendndment was passed to override a supreme Court decision? That would be the 14th Amendment, which overrode Dred Scot,and this is after a civil war and with the Southern states represented by carpet-bag regimes under the thumb of a rump Congress.
420 posted on 06/30/2003 6:26:53 PM PDT by RobbyS
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