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To: Antoninus
Federal Marriage Amendment, NOW!

Why? Is it going to increase national security or be a vital cog in our national defense structure?

Is it going to help create a single job or business opportunities?

Is it going to improve or increase our national infrastructure?

Is it going to make life better in heterosexual married households?

I can think of nothing that such an amendment will do other than to assuage the feelings of the hystericals who obsess over the sex lives of other people.

24 posted on 06/29/2003 6:29:49 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
You obviously are clueless to the fact that the family is the BEDROCK of a society. All of the things you mentioned come AFTER, not BEFORE.
31 posted on 06/29/2003 6:35:15 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
I'm shocked, shocked that you would be against this. When you're not spewing your bile all over the Catholic Church, you're supporting attacks on the traditional family. Nice resume.

None of that stuff you listed matters in the least if we live in a depraved nation. Depraved nations, by their very character or lack of it, can not defend themselves or their interests when attacked. True freedom can not exist in a depraved nation. I maintain that the clock is ticking on our survival as a free nation unless we take vigorous action.

I know you and your MO. I'd be much more surprised if you opposed the "right to sodomy."
32 posted on 06/29/2003 6:41:07 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Why?

It will keep the laws that protect married couples, from being applied to "couples" in which neither partner, nor the "relationship" as a whole, needs any such protection. Most such laws were passed when one spouse worked and the other raised the kids, and even those passed more recently mostly have the protection of the children as their basis, or of the "non-working" spouse. In a homosexual relationship, since both are the same, and there are no children from the relationship, the same factors of interest to society just don't exist.

52 posted on 06/29/2003 6:55:18 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
You always seem to fall into the camp that thinks opening Pandora's box at every opportunity possible is always a good thing. Do think things through to their conclusion ever? Or, do you desire the conclusion?
99 posted on 06/29/2003 7:30:41 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
I can't believe the depth and breadth of the ignorance of posters on this issue, and the willingness of all these "smaller government" types to surrender State's Rights to define marriage to the Federal Government.

What's even funnier is that not having bothered to do a minute of research on this, they chose instead to listen to the doom and gloom brigade, and are ready to declare defeat, in spite of the fact that States already posses the right not to honor the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the US Constitution when it comes to marriages.

"There are three commonly recognized categories of marriages contracted in another state that will not be recognized in the forum state. First, marriages that are contracted by domiciliaries of the forum state in another state for the express purpose of evading the law of the forum state are deemed invalid. E.g., Loughran v. Loughran, 292 U.S. 216 (1934) (marriage entered into in Florida, in violation of D.C. prohibition against remarriage within certain amount of time after prior divorce, invalid in D.C.); Barbosa-Johnson v. Johnson, 174 Ariz. 567, 851 P.2d 866 (Ct. App. 1993) (appellate court holding that evidence did not sustain finding that parties had married in Puerto Rico for the purpose of evading the law of Arizona). See generally Uniform Marriage Evasion Act, 9 U.L.A. 480 (1942) (N.B.: The Uniform Marriage Evasion Act is superseded by the Uniform Marriage and Divorce Act, and was officially withdrawn from consideration by the drafters in 1943)."

"Second, states have refused to recognize marriages that are solemnized in sister states when the parties are of a level of sanguinity that is forbidden in the forum state. E.g., McMorrow v. Schweiker, 561 F. Supp. 584 (D.N.J. 1982) (rule recognizing foreign marriages does not apply to incestuous marriages); Catalano v. Catalano, 148 Conn. 288, 170 A.2d 726 (1961); In re May's Estate, 305 N.Y. 486, 114 N.E.2d 14 (1953)."

"Third, states have refused to recognize marriages that are solemnized in sister states when the parties are not deemed of sufficient age to marry, as determined in the forum state. E.g., Wilkins v. Zelchowski, 26 N.J. 370, 140 A.2d 65 (1958)."

We should examine existing law before deciding that the best course of action is to hand more power to the Federal Government.

Luis

P.S. And if we don't overturn the Defense of Marriage Act before it's challenged in Federal Court, the next Amendment will be the one defining the right of same-sex couples to marry.

161 posted on 06/29/2003 7:56:59 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Cuba será libre...soon.)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Whether you like it or not, character counts!
308 posted on 06/29/2003 10:23:55 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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