Ala. Judge Loses Ten Commandments Appeal

Washington Post ^ | July 1, 2003 | Associated Press

[Lurking Libertarian]

ATLANTA - A federal appeals court ruled Tuesday that a Ten Commandments monument the size of a washing machine must be removed from the Alabama Supreme Court building.

The 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals unanimously affirmed a ruling by a federal judge who said that the 2 1/2-ton granite monument, placed there by Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, violates the constitutional separation of church and state.

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Moore put the monument in the rotunda of the courthouse in the middle of the night two summers ago. The monument features tablets bearing the Ten Commandments and historical quotations about the place of God in law.

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[Dog Gone]

I disagree, but if you're right then the motto will be the next to fall.

[Centurion2000]

Think US Marshals. A whole bunch of them. With trucks and forklifts and whatever else they need.

Think Alabama State Guard and National Guard ... with tanks and attack helicopters and other assorted instruments of mayhem. This Judge is not going to take this laying down.

Think Citizen's militia called out. The Feds had best tread lightly on this. This is the stuff of Lexington and Concord.

[Stopislamnow]

Think hundreds of armed civilians.

It's time to get bloody and defend our rights.

[DPB101]

A repeat of Lexington and Concord?

It was a minister who, on the eve that battle, told the militia they had a duty to God to fight. Another minister, Muhlenberg, at the end of a sermon, tore off his clerical garb to reveal the uniform of an Officer in the Virginia Militia (his brother, also a minster, was the first Speaker of the House of Representatives).

[lugsoul]

Oh no, I don't despise it. You typically assume what you don't know. I grew up in Alabama. My family still lives there. If you knew anything about it, you would know that the state is in the midst of a fiscal free-fall. The economy will not be assisted by the election of a governor who (a) knows nothing of government except for the imposition of his own views and (b) will drive away the investment that is critical for the survival of the state's economy.

Go ahead. With your vast knowledge of the state and of Roy Moore's governmental acumen, tell us all how his election would be good for the state.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Question is, would George W. Bush call out the National Guard to force a conservative judge to remove the 10 Commandments??

If a governor ordered the National Guard to come obstruct US marshals on behalf of a freak like Roy Moore? You betcha. Several things would start happening then that would play very well in the rest of the country - and very badly for the religious right.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

***guffaw***

[lugsoul]

That would be the 1st Amendment, incorporated against the states by way of the 14th. Next, I suppose you'll be telling us that the state can decree singing of hymns in the courtroom.

Go back to school.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Advocating violence, are you?

Trash. Pathetic, camo clad, militia trash.

[freeangel]

"California, Texas, Arizona, Florida, and New Mexico for example will soon be overwhelmingly Catholic"

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They will also overwhelmingly NOT be US citizens.

[joesnuffy]

The ACLU started this and their judges (non partison) haters of God and the America of its founders....
Another....Sad day for America
Diversity, Sodomy, Alchemy and con-servatives delivering conservatives to the god of the new world order

[Pahuanui]

Think Alabama State Guard and National Guard ... with tanks and attack helicopters and other assorted instruments of mayhem. This Judge is not going to take this laying down.

Think Citizen's militia called out. The Feds had best tread lightly on this. This is the stuff of Lexington and Concord.

Think about laying off the sauce before posting.

Should clear that problem you have with proportion right up.

[qwertyz]

Anyone know a web site with the exact wording on the monument?

[takenoprisoner]

That'd be Kevin and his lover?

[Chancellor Palpatine]

There was a link to the opinion above,and that had what was on there.

[lugsoul]

Oh, Mr. Curry, you dazzle us all with your knowledge. Have you ever argued a 1st Amendment case? I have. Sit back down.

Your post seems to indicate you believe a state can establish a state religion. That is such a ridiculous position it is not worthy of discussion. And if you took the time to read Judge Moore's own words, you would know that is exactly what he wants, as least as far as the law is concerned, in his court.

Tell us all why it is okay if Judge Moore orders a giant cross erected in the chambers of the Supreme Court. Otherwise, read his words and tell us why this is any different.

[Stopislamnow]

Our founding fathers advocated it.

When everything we have held dear for our 200+ years of existence as a nation state is in danger of being demolished by small groups of sexually deviant, morally challenged, lawyers and judges I think it is time to consider all options.

And remember sir, name calling is the first reaction of the communist/socialist leftists we lament here by the hour.

Are you sure this is the right place for you?

[lugsoul]

Oh wonderful. You'll characterize, and criticize, the case without even reading it. Typical.

If you had read it, you'd see that the panel of the 11th (good men all) who decided the case are hardly more enamored with Establishment Clause jurisprudence than you are. Unlike Judge Moore, however, they know when they are duty bound to follow the decree of a higher court.

Go ahead. Explain to us with your obviously vast wisdom how the judicial system functions when binding precedent is ignored.