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To: exmarine
Well, that's a whole different topic - the 1st and the 14th are not "penumbras."

But I guess from your posts that, if you live a town that is dominated by Muslims, it is fine and dandy if the school requires praying to Mecca five times a day, and it is fine and dandy if the town imposes Sharia - the constitution is not violated, and if you don't like it you can just move. That is the the impact of your theory.

428 posted on 07/02/2003 9:00:23 AM PDT by lugsoul
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To: lugsoul
Re-posted for clarity:

THIRD - as I have said above, there is nothing in the 1st Amendment limiting YOUR right to hang symbols you like in the courthouse, as long as the courthouse will let you hang things there (and doesn't pick and choose what it will let one hang based upon a preference for one belief over another).

And as long as not one single person is offended by it! (tyranny of the single protestor). Case in point - the Pledge Allegiance ruling by the 9th Circuit.

Nothing in this opinion is prohibiting YOU from doing ANYTHING. What the opinion prohibits is the STATE choosing to display some religious symbols which it prefers to the exclusion of others which it does not.

The 10 commandments are the basis of our laws counsellor, and are the ABSOLUTE FOUNDATION OF ALL MORAL LAW. Again, moral relativism rears its ugly head. Do you and the ACLU deny that the 10 commandments embody absolute moral principles or that they are the basis of our laws? They are emblazoned on the Supreme Court - REMOVE THEM!

436 posted on 07/02/2003 9:30:11 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: lugsoul
But I guess from your posts that, if you live a town that is dominated by Muslims, it is fine and dandy if the school requires praying to Mecca five times a day, and it is fine and dandy if the town imposes Sharia - the constitution is not violated, and if you don't like it you can just move. That is the the impact of your theory.

Well, I would hope that the constitution of that state would be sufficient to handle such violations of religious rights in that area. I would hope that the state would have never been allowed into the union of their constitution did not sufficiently guarantee the rights of its citizens. But this would not be a Federal matter. If, however, our goverment was instead modelled after a national government system with the states being simple partitions of the national government, then you would be right and the matter would be up to the national governmment.

438 posted on 07/02/2003 9:32:39 AM PDT by Spiff (Liberalism is a mental illness - a precursor disease to terminal Socialism.)
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To: lugsoul
But I guess from your posts that, if you live a town that is dominated by Muslims, it is fine and dandy if the school requires praying to Mecca five times a day, and it is fine and dandy if the town imposes Sharia - the constitution is not violated, and if you don't like it you can just move. That is the the impact of your theory.

Muslims have to abide by our Constitution. If they don't like it, they can go back to muslim-land. No one twisted their arm to make them come here. People are FREE to pray, but not FREE to make others do anything. I haven't heard of one school that FORCES people to pray. They can opt out. The idea that someone is offended by the Lord's Prayer makes me want to vomit - evidently they aren't offended by safe sex theology, or gay rights agenda, or any other issue - JUST CHRISTIANITY!

440 posted on 07/02/2003 9:36:33 AM PDT by exmarine
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