How “Uncle Joe” Bugged FDR

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[Russian Sage]

The Lessons of History

How “Uncle Joe” Bugged FDR

In recent years, the statesmanship of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, in particular his handling of Soviet affairs, has come under attack in historical studies. The situation has reached such a pass that even a psychiatrist who examined FDR’s medical records has opined that toward the end of World War II the US President ceded the better part of Eastern Europe to Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin because he was “gripped by clinical depression.

Certainly the President’s moves can be questioned, but questionable policy can be founded on factors other than low spirits—which, in point of fact, were not generally observed in FDR at the time. Rather, the operant factors were: the President’s supreme confidence in his own powers of persuasion, his profound ignorance of the Bolshevik dictatorship, his projection of humane motives onto his Soviet counterpart, his determined resistance to contradictory evidence and advice, and his wishful thinking based on geopolitical designs—mindsets supported and reinforced by his appointed advisors. Taken together, these factors produced a false view of US-Soviet relations and inspired policy that had only superficial contact with reality. As an instance in point, they induced the President of the United States to do the unthinkable: walk into a surveillance trap, not once, but twice, and willingly.

[friendly]

FDR was fully covered by entire gangs of liberal democrat traitors, working for Soviet intelligence. We can thank the desecrated hero, Joe McCarthy, for fighting against this internal enemy. The democrat party remains the party of treason.

[donmeaker]

Roosevelt at Yalta stayed with the Russians. Anyone who thought they were keeping secrets from Uncle Joe wasn't paying attention.

On the other hand, the US lost about 500,000 men during WWII. by comparison the Soviet Union lost about 21 million, 42 times as many. The Soviets lost over a million 2nd Lieutenants! I doubt that anything short of a major war could have prevented the Soviets from creating a zone of mostly friendly border states. They earned it far more than the French earned their chair at the surrender of Japan.

[Cicero]

FDR seems to have admired Communism from before he became president, and used the war against Hitler to forward a basically pro-Communist agenda. He was surrounded by Communist agents and sympathizers at the highest level, but that was hardly accidental.

[Common Tator]

The primary reason Roosevelt let the russians have eastern Europe was we thought we would need them to defeat Japan.

Stalin was not much interested in fighting Japan. Our military told Roosevelt it would cost a million american lives to invade Japan. We had already lost a half million. Our death total would have trippled.

If the Russians split the load our losses woule be about a half million men to defeat Japan. To save a half million american lives, Roosevelt was willing to let Stalin have Eastern Europe.

Roosevelt had been told that he could not count on the Atomic bomb. No one knew if it would work. The test that proved the atomic bomb worked was conducted after Roosevelts death. It was done while Truman was negotiating with Stalin at Pottsdamm. Churchill had been defeated so it was the Socicalist Attlee and Stalin against Truman at Pottsdamn.

The deal had been struck months before at Yalta and Truman could not undo the deal. I would not have traded my fathers life for eastern europe. Would you have traded a half million American mens lives for eastern Europe under Stalin?

I don't blame Roosevelt for that. I would have done the same thing. For a half million American soldiers lives, I would let Russia have France today.

[aristeides]

Stalin could win in the negotiations because his agents like Hiss within the U.S. government let him know what our minimum terms were.

[aristeides]

FDR's health first noticeably failed upon his return to Washington from Teheran, in December 1943. And he remained quite sick for months, into March 1944. I wonder if he could have been poisoned by the Russians while he was in housing they controlled. Had he died, he would have been succeeded by Vice President Henry Wallace, whom the Soviets might well have preferred.

[PeaceCorpsGuy]

This is exactly what Ann Coulter is talking about in "Treason."

[GhostofWCooper]

I'll go one better. Roosevelt deliberately surrounded himself with communists. He worshipped "Uncle Joe", and his fear that Hitler would conquer the communists in russia was the impetus that compelled him to get the U.S. into the war in the first place.
He was a communist. His policies haunt us to this day. He invented the traitor liberal.

[Texas_Jarhead]

Great post. Very interesting stuff. Thanks.

[babble-on]

I'm reading Antony Beevor on the Fall of Berlin. He is pretty scathing of Roosevelt for not seeing what Stalin was up to at Yalta (Roosevelt was very ill by then). But he is especially critical of Eisenhower for ignoring the prize of Berlin and focusing on the Alpine Fortress concept, which was a myth. If Ike had sent the US forces on the Elbe straight to Berlin he might have saved Germany from East/West partition, and might have gotten a better result for the Poles as well. They just didn't recognize the Soviet agenda.