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Iran's Successful Missile Test Puts Israel Within Range
Ha'aretz ^ | July 04, 2003 | Amir Oren

Posted on 07/03/2003 6:12:02 PM PDT by DoctorZIn

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1 posted on 07/03/2003 6:12:03 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: DoctorZIn
Time for operation Persian Osirak.
2 posted on 07/03/2003 6:15:15 PM PDT by rmlew ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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To: DoctorZIn
How far do we need to bend over to look like the good guy? Is the Mid East worth it? I think we have proved we are the better chess player. We can we honestly say enough is enough?
3 posted on 07/03/2003 6:16:13 PM PDT by Calpernia (Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions.)
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To: DoctorZIn
Say goodbye to Iran's missile program.
4 posted on 07/03/2003 6:16:48 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: rmlew
My thoughts exactly. But there's no way the jets could make it from Israel to Iran on a single tank. Maybe we could let them refuel in Iraq. :)
5 posted on 07/03/2003 6:17:22 PM PDT by July 4th
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To: DoctorZIn
"The next commander of Centcom, Gen. John Abizaid, who replaces Tommy Franks on Monday, testified last week to a Senate committee that "Iran has the largest ballistic missile inventory in the Central Command region to include long-range weapons of mass destruction and delivery systems capable of reaching deployed U.S. forces in the theater." And he warned, "Iran's long-term ability to develop nuclear weapons remains a source of serious concern."

Am I the only one concerned about this John Abizaid?

6 posted on 07/03/2003 6:18:19 PM PDT by realpatriot
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To: realpatriot; yonif
Who here knows, is that Arab?

Yonif, do you know? Is this name Arab? "Gen. John Abizaid"
7 posted on 07/03/2003 6:22:41 PM PDT by Calpernia (Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions.)
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To: Centurion2000
I wish I were conviced that their missle program is near an end. It is if the Iranian people overthrow their government soon, otherwise "Houston... we have a problem."
8 posted on 07/03/2003 6:22:42 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (IranAzad... 6 days until July 9th)
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To: DoctorZIn
4 months and counting...I hear R.E.M. and the fat lady tuning up already...better act now W.....
9 posted on 07/03/2003 6:23:20 PM PDT by Beck_isright (If all the minorities win all their USSC cases, doesn't that make them majorities?)
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To: realpatriot
He is a fine man. Apparently of Arab descent--Lebanese , I think.
10 posted on 07/03/2003 6:24:44 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: realpatriot
Abazid is the son of Lebanese parents. He speaks fluent Arabic and is a staunch conservative. He shreds radical muslims for lunch. He is also a great general, and he fights.

11 posted on 07/03/2003 6:26:43 PM PDT by judicial meanz
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To: realpatriot
Am I the only one concerned about this John Abizaid?

You probably are because we've heard he's a really good guy. Extremely well qualified, and extremely loyal.

12 posted on 07/03/2003 6:27:22 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: DoctorZIn
From what I have seen & heard the "arrow" program is very effective. Besides the Iranian progam is about to suffer a very fatal accident. they have been messing with a very big [little] giant, and they will exact a very heavy toll for this.
13 posted on 07/03/2003 6:27:51 PM PDT by Knightsofswing (sic semper tranyis [death to tryants!!])
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To: DoctorZIn
Recently Israel launched it's first satellite. In order to accomplish this feat Israel launched the missile westward over the Med. Although this negated the natural Earth rotational boost Israel was able to achieve orbit without launching its missile so as to travel over other Middle east countries.

Everyone is within their range!!! If I was North Korea and I've been selling technology to Tehran I might find myself targetted by Israel.

14 posted on 07/03/2003 6:28:53 PM PDT by Young Werther
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To: judicial meanz
"Abazid is the son of Lebanese parents. He speaks fluent Arabic and is a staunch conservative. He shreds radical muslims for lunch. He is also a great general, and he fights."

Thank you. I fell somewhat better, but I can't help think of that airline flight with the Egyptian copilot that flew the airliner into the ocean killing all aboard. If this man is what you say he is he should, even more than us, despise these despicable low lives.

15 posted on 07/03/2003 6:32:56 PM PDT by realpatriot
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To: realpatriot
Am I the only one concerned about this John Abizaid?

God, you dumb hillbilly, ignorant moron. Why would we be concerned? Please tell us.

16 posted on 07/03/2003 6:37:23 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: judicial meanz
Total Naivette here. What about the "Arab Tent" thing?

And, Is this general Muslim?
17 posted on 07/03/2003 6:37:30 PM PDT by Calpernia (Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions.)
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To: rmlew
Clint Eastwood- Heartbreak Ridge... is supposedly loosely based on him. I think he was involved in Grenada operation.
18 posted on 07/03/2003 6:38:25 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er ("Don't shoot Mongo, you'll only make him mad.")
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To: Calpernia; realpatriot; yonif
One would think if there were anything to be alamed about, Gertz would know. Here is a piece he wrote about Abizaid: http://www.washtimes.com/national/20030625-102128-9584r.htm

Abizaid sure Iraq arms will be found

By Bill Gertz
THE WASHINGTON TIMES, June 26, 2003

The incoming commander of U.S. forces in Iraq said yesterday that he expects stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons and an illicit program to build nuclear arms to be uncovered in Iraq.

"I'm confident we will show that there was deception," Army Lt. Gen. John P. Abizaid said at a Senate hearing on his nomination to be chief of the U.S. Central Command. "And I am also confident that at some point it will lead us to actual weapons of mass destruction."

Gen. Abizaid, an American of Lebanese descent who speaks Arabic, also said the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in the face of intelligence about their existence is perplexing.

The search for Iraq's weapons includes looking at documents and talking to informants and detainees, he said.

"I believe that as we get on with the mission of continuing to look for weapons of mass destruction and piece together the evidence that is available within the country ... that we'll piece together the story that tells us what happened to the weapons of mass destruction somewhere between 1998 and 2003," he said.

The policy of containment of now-ousted Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's regime for over a decade did not work, Gen. Abizaid said. "And I think that bringing this brutal regime down with as many of the hundreds of thousands of people that he killed was a good thing in its own right," he said.

Mass graves discovered in Iraq showed that Saddam's forces had murdered men, women and children by shooting them in the head and even burying them alive in pits, he said.

Gen. Abizaid said that U.S. troops prefer combat to the current mission of "constabulary duty" to stabilize postwar Iraq.

He described three types of opposition to the allied troops in Iraq: armed Ba'athist cells operating in Baghdad, Al Ramadi and Tikrit; radical anti-American Islamists from outside Iraq; and Iraqi criminals.

The foreign fighters were disrupted by a recent military strike on a camp in western Iraq.

Gen. Abizaid said coalition troops are taking the fight to the Ba'athists with the aim to "kill those who would try to kill us."

Gen. Abizaid said the coalition forces in Iraq are not sitting around waiting to be attacked. "In at least half of the actions that take place there, we are the folks that initiate the contact," he said.

The 145,000-strong U.S. troop presence in Iraq is not expected to increase, he said. "I think right now we have sufficient number of troops to deal with the tasks at hand that we are faced with militarily," Gen. Abizaid said.

Troop levels could decrease once the current phase of anti-guerrilla operations is finished at the end of the month, he said.

Gen. Abizaid praised the tactical intelligence data provided to U.S. forces during the conflict. But, he said, the intelligence on weapons of mass destruction was "incomplete."

The general said he had expected Iraqi forces to use chemical or biological weapons against advancing coalition troops and had expected the latter to find illicit arms "early in the campaign."

"Fortunately, they did not use weapons of mass destruction against our troops," he said.

The intelligence supplied to the troops was "the most accurate that I've ever seen on the tactical level, probably the best I've ever seen on the operational level," Gen. Abizaid said.

U.S. intelligence provided an unprecedented "picture" of the Iraqi forces and their intentions, which helped speed the rapid drive of allied forces to Baghdad.

However, intelligence agencies provided information that was "perplexingly incomplete on the strategic level with regard to weapons of mass destruction."

Gen. Abizaid said he could not understand why no weapons of mass destruction were found "when the evidence was so pervasive" that they existed.

Coalition forces expected to intercept Iraq's chemical or biological arms before they were moved from storage depots to guns. "But we've looked at the depots, and they're not there," Gen. Abizaid said.

The weapons could have been moved, hidden or destroyed, he said.

Movement from weapons depots before the war was viewed by the United States as preparation by Iraqi forces to use weapons of mass destruction against coalition troops, he said.

However, in retrospect, the movement of arms may have been intended "to get rid of them," Gen. Abizaid said.

The discovery of Iraqi chemical warfare protective suits showed that the Iraqis had planned to use poison gas and would have attacked coalition troops with chemical weapons as they closed in on Baghdad, he said.

If confirmed by the Senate, Gen. Abizaid will replace the outgoing commander of U.S. Central Command, Gen. Tommy Franks.

19 posted on 07/03/2003 6:41:22 PM PDT by RedWhiteBlue
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
BECAUSE of the Arab Tent ideology..."make the Arabs one against their many enemies."

Implemented by the ARAB LEAGUE.
20 posted on 07/03/2003 6:41:50 PM PDT by Calpernia (Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions.)
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