[Jim Robinson]

B/S Goldberg. Recall is every bit as valid as impeachment. It's our check on government gone totally insane. And no, we do not deserve to suffer any more than we already have. We've already suffered more than necessary and, unfortunately, we'll be suffering for many years to come because of this buffoon. End it now and send a message to the rest of these liberal jackasses!

[HitmanLV]

That's something that Johan misses, and is 100% correct. This isn't soem sort of extra-legal exercise: it's part of the framework as established by state charter and law.

[MrsEmmaPeel]

B/S Goldberg. Recall is every bit as valid as impeachment.

Hear, Hear. Don't forget Hitler was elected. What a different world it would be, if Recall was part of their system.

For Davis, I say the buggar's done enough damage. Toss him on his bum!

[auggy]

"B/S Goldberg. Recall is every bit as valid as impeachment. It's our check on government gone totally insane. And no, we do not deserve to suffer any more than we already have. We've already suffered more than necessary and, unfortunately, we'll be suffering for many years to come because of this buffoon. End it now and send a message to the rest of these liberal jackasses!"

I agree. Let's make a politician accountable for his campaign promises. I personally am deeply saddened by the lies given by politicians, mostly Demons.

With all of the hype to get him thrown out, makes one wonder, if he really won the election legally.

HMMM!

[DB]

The only effective thing that changes bad behavior is painful consequences. California voters have chosen very badly for some time now. They think they can have electrical power without building power plants. They think they can have others pay for all their do good/feel good pet projects and the “rich” will simply pay without damaging the economy or leaving the state. They think they can pass more and more government mandated worker “benefits” and make the state a workers paradise. That is worker paradise without jobs…

If they don’t bear the consequences of their actions they will simply continue doing the same destructive thing. I don’t think the real pain of Davis’ governing has been felt yet. Right now it is mostly talk of what pain is coming. That isn’t enough. Just like alcoholics or drug addicts until they hit rock bottom and are forced face themselves they don’t make any true meaningful long-term changes. I’d rather feel and deal with the pain now and not have a repeat performance in a few years.

At least that is my opinion…

[GladesGuru]

From the other end of America, it looks like the California people worked long and hard for their present debacle. Davis is but the tip of the iceberg - the fault is truly in "the people".

Having been the most "progressive" state, and the term "progressive" having been chosen as a substitute for 'communist" or socialist", you pilgrims chose your path and diligently followed it.

The land there in California is good; just the voting population has gone bad. Having defined the problem, I should like to submit a "Modest Proposal".

Perhaps the entire Magnificent Seven non-socialist registered voters left in California should combine with California’s Freepers and such Pubbies and other conservatives as may still be in California.

Having combined to form a sort of a 'more perfect union' - - ship all the Closet Commies, Greenies, Liberals, and socialists of all sizes, sorts, and descriptions down to Mexico, and start a new electorate in California.

Such a move would be perhaps somewhat popular - - Mexico is, after all, the closest communist/socialist social pool with lots of cess to spare.

[commish]

Agree with everything you say, but I cannot help thinking that we may be opening a Pandora's Box that will not close.

A recall is a powerful tool when used right, and I have no doubt that it is being done for all the right reason's in this case -- but, Liberals think completely different and I can see them using the recall mechanism over and over and over in an attempt to "get back" at the evil VRWC.

I alos would not put it past the California Legislature to completely rewrite the recall laws in their favor if Greyout falls.

[Alberta's Child]

Good point, Jim. See #35, though I must add that I will defer to Calilfornians in a case like this. The Tenth Amendment was intended specifically to allow states to implement whatever "extraordinary" election processes they felt necessary.

[l8pilot]

Recall is every bit as valid as impeachment. It's our check on government gone totally insane.

BUMP (and Howdy!)

[CatoRenasci]

I absolutely agree, Jim. California has had the Recall on the books since the Progressives (gov. Hiram Johnson) beat the Southern Pacific machine Democrats in the 1910 election.

It has rarely been used, but until the past 20 years or so was always an effective threat and check on the behavior of politicians in California. It was effectively used to get rid of the execrable Rose Bird, IIRC.

All three of the Progressive reforms -- initiative, referendum and recall -- are absolutely key to the sound functioning of republican government as the size of the entity increases.