Why? Because 1) the concept of warrior women is a load-bearing plank in the socialist platform and 2) if women can't fight, there can be a case made for their exclusion in political leadership roles. 
Posted on 07/08/2003 5:27:49 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
The Center for Military Readiness, an independent public policy organization that specializes in military personnel issues, hopes that Army officials will investigate and answer the following questions about the ambush of the 507th Maintenance Unit, and the subsequent rescue of Pfc. Jessica Lynch. It is impossible to make sound decisions on any major personnel policy, such as women in combat, until relevant facts are known:
1. A disturbing video of apparently executed soldiers was shown on Aljazeera TV, together with the frightened faces of Spec. Shoshana Johnson and four male captives. One month later, the remains of the last-identified casualty of the March 23 ambush were finally found.
Why have Pentagon officials withheld information about the circumstances of the death of soldiers and Marines involved in the ambush of the 507th Maintenance Unit, including those who appear to have been abused and executed point blank in violation of international law?
2. Army Sgt. Cassaundra Grant lost her left leg, and eventually her right, when she was pinned under a tank that her transportation unit was moving in Kuwait on March 14. She was treated at Walter Reed Hospital, and eventually transferred to the Brooke Medical Center in Texas on April 3—the same day that the sensationalized Jessica Lynch story headlined the Washington Post. An Internet search reveals only one feature article about Sgt. Grant, a courageous and still-cheerful single mother of a two year-old boy, which appeared in her hometown newspaper on May 2. Perhaps this is because her story conflicts with the glamorized women-in-combat agenda.
Were efforts made to suppress or eclipse the story of Sgt. Casaundra Grant, especially on the day that she left Walter Reed? Are there stories about other female soldiers that so far have been considered too sensitive to reveal?
3. The Washington Post reported that the unconscious Pfc. Lynch and her still-alive friend Pfc. Lori Piestewa, a single mother of two small children, arrived at a nearby medical/Iraqi headquarters facility three hours after the ambush. Experts say that the first 3-6 hours are the most perilous for captives who are at the mercy of enraged thugs who never heard of the Geneva Convention. Army helicopter pilots Ronald Young, Jr. and David Williams said that they were brutally beaten when they were captured in central Iraq on March 23.
If the Post account is correct, what happened to the male and female soldiers of the 507th Maintenance Unit, and the Marines who tried to rescue them, during those three hours?
4. According to embedded MSNBC reporter Kerry Sanders, an Iraqi resident asked him to “Please make sure the people in charge know that she [Lynch] is being tortured.” MSNBC also reported that Marines had previously found at the first facility that received the prisoners a bloody uniform of a kind used by female soldiers, and a metal bed with a car battery next to it. These items, they said, suggested that the place was a torture chamber. (Wire reports, April 3, and Bill Gertz, Washington Times, April 23)
Why have officials not released more information, including medical and autopsy reports, about the treatment of Pfc. Lynch, Pfc. Lori Piestewa, and other captives who were killed or taken to one or both facilities? (Laws protecting privacy do not apply to deceased military personnel.)
5. Saddam Hussein’s regime was known to beat male and female prisoners with canes, whips, pipes, and metal rods, especially on the soles of a victim’s feet. Female Iraqi prisoners were frequently raped and their children tortured in front of their husbands. Lawyer Mohammed Odeh Al Rehaief, who assisted in the rescue of Jessica Lynch, told Marines that he had seen an Iraqi woman killed and dragged through the street, apparently because she had waved at a U.S. helicopter.
Were any of these torture techniques used on the women of the 507th, or any other women or men deployed as part of Operation Iraqi Freedom?
6. Qatar-based CENTCOM briefer Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks told reporters that the extent of Jessica Lynch’s injuries would not be discussed “in the interests of her privacy.” Such terms are rarely used, except with regard to sexual assault.
Some discretion is appropriate, but why were Pfc. Lynch’s injuries treated as a completely private matter, unlike other injuries that are routinely discussed in the media? Is there medical evidence of physical abuse, including sexual assault, while she was in captivity?
7. The parents of Jessica Lynch recently disputed reports that their daughter has amnesia. They denied that anyone had told them to remain silent, but also said that they were not supposed to talk about certain questions. (Allison Barker, AP, Newsday.com, May 29)
If the amnesia story is not true, who is responsible for it? Were “gag rules” imposed on the family, doctors, and/or military personnel close to the situation in Iraq? If so, why?
8. Several news accounts have reported that Jessica Lynch is being kept under guard and in isolation, even from fellow hospital patients who might give her encouragement during her painful recovery.
Pfc. Lynch should be protected from unwanted intruders, but what is the purpose of the extraordinary isolation and security arrangements surrounding her?
9. Many news organizations reported that the Iraqi lawyer Mohammed witnessed a physical assault on Lynch at the Saddam Hussein General hospital. When doctors there said that they were preparing to amputate her leg, Mohammed decided to put his own life at risk to help save hers. Pfc. Lynch was reportedly suffering from infection and fever, due to bone fragments piercing her skin, which might have killed her had she not been rescued. (DefendAmericaNews, Marine Combat HQ, Iraq, April 3)
Are these accounts accurate or not? What have American eyewitnesses other than Pfc. Lynch said about her treatment in the Hussein hospital?
10. At least one journalist sought access to enlisted women like those who were ambushed in the ill-fated support unit in Iraq. Public affairs officials denied that request, and allowed the reporter to interview only female pilots on camera. Most enlisted women, who outnumber female officers by more than five to one, are known to oppose mandatory assignments in combat units on the same basis as men.
What is the purpose of what appears to be unusually restrictive news management of news regarding women in combat?
11. Unlike other servicemen and women who have been allowed to speak freely about their experiences in Iraq, none of the personnel who were involved in the March 23 ambush and subsequent rescue have been permitted to discuss their specific role in those operations. The families of those who died have a right to know the circumstances of their death. Those who survived or performed heroically also deserve recognition and the opportunity to tell their stories in more than limited “welcome home” stories. One serviceman currently fears for his career because he identified himself as a member of the April 1 rescue team.
What is the purpose of the unusual secrecy surrounding every person involved in the perilous ambush of the 507th Maintenance Unit, and the life-saving rescue of Pfc. Jessica Lynch?
12. The family of Spec. Shoshana Johnson said that she had joined the Army to learn cooking skills in a support unit, adding that she had never expected to wind up in a unit exposed to combat violence and capture in the early days of a full-scale war. The situation probably would not have happened were it not for Defense Department rules ordered by the Clinton Administration in 1994, which now require women to serve in support units involving a “substantial risk of capture.”
Are young female recruits being informed that they could be assigned in or near previously all-male units that involve a substantial and unequal risk of combat violence and capture in a future war?
If Defense Department officials cannot bring themselves to tell young women that the rules and their “conditions of employment” have changed, perhaps they should reconsider and revise current policies on women in combat.
The Washington Post described Pfc. Jessica Lynch as “blond and waiflike.” Thousands of young men, who could have taken her place, would probably volunteer to serve in the military if President George W. Bush issued such a call.
Instead, the armed forces are spending extra time and money recruiting unusually large numbers of “waiflike” women and single mothers to fight our nation’s wars.
The ultimate, most important question is, Why?
Moreover, let's also recall that the LATEST info---NOT released by the DOD--was totally in the other direction, namely that Lynch was not in danger, that the raid was "staged" and that she certainly was not tortured. That was the testimony of virtually all the doctors and nurses there. Now, they may be lying, but there IS another side to this story.
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Because we have hundreds of thousands of troops in Iraq, Afganistan, Saudi Arabia, the Balkans, Korea and dozens of other countries and we need the bodies. And this situation will continue unless the U.S. starts reducing its commitments abroad. Seeing as we are now headed for Liberia as well it's clear that that isn't going to happen with the current administration any time soon.
Having been both a grunt and a combat medic in Vietnam (2/39th & 6/31st 9th ID) and both patient & a volunteer in VA hosptials
IMO Women have NO place in combat -period....
Its bad enough that men have to be there
Why? Because 1) the concept of warrior women is a load-bearing plank in the socialist platform and 2) if women can't fight, there can be a case made for their exclusion in political leadership roles.
The military is forced to accept women in combat and like it, due to the requirements of the civilian leadership. The militay doesn't have the option of saying 'no women in combat' or 'we need more men'. That kind of debate isn't allowed. You'd have to talk to congress and President Bush about a changing their position, but don't hold your breath.
What this means is that the Army and Marines are saddled with women in roles that will put them into direct combat, even if they are non-combatant MOSs. No ammount of spin will change the fact that women are a hinderance in combat. Period. Full stop. They can be as effective as men in support roles that don't require heavy lifting, but otherwise are a complete liablility.
Why does the pretty young former POW get all the attention while the crippled single mother gets none? Because the military has been ordered to ignore the truth in favor of the myth, and any officer who tried to oppose it would be commiting career suicide. Political BS, all the way.
She stays very focused in her pursuit of non-combat roles for women in the military.
She's been saying this for years.
Clinton is the one who introduced & promoted women's roles in combat.....
..and Elaine has been fighting, for years, to change that direction.
I can't fault her.....I'm just glad she perseveres!!
My concern is that either side---the "no women in combat" group or the "it was all staged by the Pentagon" group are jumping the gun before we know all the information.
But neither she, nor I, nor you, know the truth of what happened, and I think everyone should chill until we hear what Jessica says about it.
Bullsh*t. You pulled this s*it before. No one on this thread feels that way and here you are again accusing posters of it. And of course are nowhere to be found when you are being called on your post.
I admittedly don't know much about Elaine Donnelly, but I suspect that she doesn't believe that women should not be in the military. I suspect that she believes that women don't belong in military combat, which is a significant difference. Women served our country honorably in World War II in a significant number of non-combat roles. The government decided to fix something that wasn't broken in the first place.
This perfectly describes Soviet Red Army. They were experts in telling nonsense and expecting the entire world to believe them. Only those in captivity and those deprived of common sense did. In final analysis,Red Army crumbled under the weight of lies.
If history can teach us anything, this is NOT a good model to follow.
And that is exactly what Pentagon is doing.
Without intent to start a flame war, with SAVING PRIVATE LYNCH myth Pentagon managed to score propaganda points with domestic audience and made a fool of itself in world opinion.
Pentagon has to reveal the truth about SAVING PRIVATE LYNCH in order to allow officers to get rid of the myths.
Because Myth-making has the power to ruin the Army.
Good point. Any MAN whose legs got pinned under a tank would simply pick the vehicle up, hurl it aside like Superman, hop up and go back to work.
This isn't because it's militarily a good idea. This battle was already fought and lost by the establishment, now they have to make due with the rules their forced to work under. Since good soldiers don't follow orders reluctantly, the establishent has mandated that everyone say that women and men are the same, and like it.
Men are more expendable than women. SGT Grant is a single mother, and now she's crippled. There's a lot more going on here than comparing sheer battlefield performance.
Exactly.
Anyone who has a problem with someone asking questions should take a good hard look at their own intentions.
I'm with you in that I would like to hear just what Lynch has to say about the whole incident. Of course that's not possible, because she (and just about everyone else involved with the incident) is under a strict gag order from the military.
Let me be perfectly clear that I feel truly sorry for Lynch, and not just because of the serious injuries she suffered. I think that what the government is doing to women like her in the military nowadays is not only tragic, I believe it borders on criminal. It's scary how much our notion of combat has become sanitized to the point where we treat it as not much more difficult than pressing buttons on some video game controller. These women are being thrust into life-threatening situations without being adequately trained for it, and all to satisfy this insane political correctness. Frankly, it sickens me. A civilized society doesn't play games with people's lives in that manner.
It would have been no less a good operation to recue a male in the same enemy's hands. As to her injuries and protecting her privacy I have no idea if she was sexually assaulted but uif she was and wishes to keep it private then everyone should keep ttheir noses out of it. Now there is nothing particualrly heroic about being captured and held prisoner per se. There is, however, heroism that does occur by behavior in captivity. This is what I presume to be the case for Jessica Lych.
C) You seem quite afraid to let Lynch speak for herself. That should concern any "illogical" or "logical" reader.
So the "military" isn't "doing" anything to Lynch or anyone else. I'm willing to accept whatever she says, and as far as I know she is NOT under a gag order. I don't ever recall her family saying that, and she already has a movie deal, so it can't be too much of a gag order.
I get the feeling though, that on this board there are people absolutely terrified that she MIGHT, just MIGHT, say, "I did fire, and hit a couple of the basT@rds, and kept firing till I ran out of ammo." I know there are stories that supposedly she didn't. Why are those any more believable than the alternative?
Bottom line, I'm willing to wait to see what she has to say. Not Elaine Donelly, and not the PC crowd. Her.
Her father, Greg Lynch, Sr. one time told reporters outside his house "We're really not supposed to talk about that subject. It's still under investigation," Later, he contradicted himself and said, "nobody has told us not to talk about this," but then consistently refused to provide details.
Lynch herself is at Walter Reed Medical Center, with military guards posted outside her door around the clock. To the best of my knowledge, nobody has been permitted to directly talk to her outside of her own family and authorized military personnel. You can call it whatever you want to, but a gag order by any other name is still a gag order.
It is true that her family has been pitched book and movie deals by all the big media conglomerates, and some of them have already begun work on the "script", but I hadn't heard that they actually had accepted a deal yet.
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