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U.N.: Nearly 1 Gun for Every American
AP ^ | 7/8/03 | EDITH M. LEDERER

Posted on 07/09/2003 5:23:47 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo

UNITED NATIONS - The United States has by far the largest number of publicly owned firearms in the world and is approaching the point where there is one gun for every American, according to the Small Arms Survey 2003 released Tuesday.

But in surprise findings, the survey found that Europeans are more heavily armed than commonly believed while there are far fewer small arms in Afghanistan (news - web sites) and sub-Saharan Africa than previously estimated.

According to the independent survey, the crackdown on terrorism after Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States "had little effect on the size of the global stockpile of 639 million known small arms."

The survey said its estimate of the global value of small arms production remains unchanged at about $7.4 billion — with the United States and Russia accounting for more than 70 percent of production. The estimate of the legal small arms trade — $4 billion a year — also remains the same, with the European Union (news - web sites) dominating the international export market.

America is now estimated to have between 238 million and 276 million firearms, compared with some 250 million legally owned guns, or 84 for every 100 people recorded in a July 2001 survey.

"By any measure the United States is the most armed country in the world," it said. "With roughly 83 to 96 guns per 100 people, the United States is approaching a statistical level of one gun per person."

The country with the second-highest gun ownership is Yemen, with between 33 and 50 firearms per 100 people, followed by Finland with 39 per 100, the new survey said.

"Contrary to the common assumption that Europeans are virtually unarmed, the 15 countries of the European Union have an estimated 84 million firearms. Of that 67 million (80 percent) are in civilian hands," the survey said. With a total population of 375 million people, this amounts to 17.4 guns for every 100 people.

The survey of global small arms was released on the second day of a weeklong U.N. meeting reviewing progress toward implementing a U.N. program adopted two years ago to combat small arms trafficking. More than 30 researchers contributed to the project, which is coordinated at the Graduate Institute of International Studies in Geneva and financed by a dozen Western governments.

Peter Batchelor, the survey's project director, said at a news conference that there are still "disappointingly low levels of transparency" about the global arms trade, with only about 20 countries providing annual export reports. Sixty countries are known to be engaged in the legal trade.

"Based on our research, it's clear that the value and the volume of the legal international trade has appeared to decline since the 1990s. This has been led by a dramatic fall in the trade of military weapons, and also certain categories of civilian firearms," he said.

Batchelor said the illicit trade is believed to be worth about $1 billion, or 20 percent of the legal trade.

While small-scale smuggling across borders continues, "the large-scale deals that seemed to be very prominent in the last decade seem to have declined somewhat," he said.

New research is leading to an increasingly balanced, though still incomplete, picture of the distribution of small arms and light weapons, the survey said.

Although it is has been widely reported that Afghanistan has at least 10 million small arms, the survey said, "careful analysis places the total between 500,000 and 1.5 million weapons."

It also said there probably are no more than 30 million firearms among civilians, insurgents and governments of the 44 countries of sub-Saharan Africa.

"This is enough guns to perpetuate fighting in many countries and raise the danger of criminal violence in many others, but it is not enough to render the situation totally beyond hope," the survey said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; afghanistan; bang; banglist; europeanunion; finland; gunownership; nato; peterbatchelor; secondamendment; un; yemen
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To: Reactionary
Oh, I know. I carry a Ruger SP101 in .357 cal. =^)
101 posted on 07/09/2003 7:43:31 PM PDT by rockfish59
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To: RightWhale
the largest number of publicly owned firearms

It's PRIVATELY owned. Cease attempting to destroy the language.

Exactly right!

102 posted on 07/09/2003 7:50:04 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: yooper
Beauty, eh?

We got our guns here too. :)

103 posted on 07/09/2003 7:50:38 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Crashed and Burned, eh gungrabbers?")
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To: Mr. Mojo
I say we make it TWO.
104 posted on 07/09/2003 7:51:53 PM PDT by FourPeas
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To: Mr. Mojo; All
The UN is just pissed because they haven't dumbed us down to give our guns up freely. And we never ever will be dumb enough to give them up! :-)
105 posted on 07/09/2003 7:53:53 PM PDT by proudofthesouth
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To: Mr. Mojo
America is now estimated to have between 238 million and 276 million firearms, compared with some 250 million legally owned guns, or 84 for every 100 people recorded in a July 2001 survey.

So what? You ask me, that's not nearly enough.

106 posted on 07/09/2003 7:55:20 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (Conservative babes with guns are so hot)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Where in the UN charter does it say anything about counting guns? This is why I am so sick of the UN. They cannot do what they are supposed to do, and try to do many things they are not even empowered to do. And that which they do that is good, such as feeding the most needy, would be done a lot better were the generous states of the world to do it without the UN's facilitation. The UN is a total waste of everyone's time and energy.
107 posted on 07/09/2003 7:57:34 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: dirtbiker
i recently bought a Bersa .380ACP.. very reasonable, and a good gun too..
108 posted on 07/09/2003 7:58:30 PM PDT by wafflehouse (the hell you say!)
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To: jeremiah
One gun for every American citizen? One word.......GOOD.

Actually I would like it better if every every American Citizen owned at least a half dozen guns (or more) J

109 posted on 07/09/2003 8:00:18 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (~~~ http://www.ourgangnet.net ~~~~~)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Amen and pass the ammunition! Someone isn't holding up their end, however, since every gun owner I know has more than one gun.

p.s. Hey UN - go mind your own business.
110 posted on 07/09/2003 8:07:20 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay
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To: ought-six
Hey, I'm in Illinois...

Yeah, Illinois could get a little dicey here in a while - what with Daley/Bag-O-Shit introducing new gun bans every two months.
111 posted on 07/09/2003 8:09:29 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay
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To: Pompah
Send a couple of "Blue Helmet's" around and see how many you can actually count

I was watching the news the other night on the TV at the local pub and noticed how nicely those shiny blue UN helmets "pop out" of the background, if you know what I mean. Not at all like the cammo-cloth covered helmets of combat troops.

BTW, with all the gun nuts...er...I mean firearms enthusiasts on this thread, perhaps one of you knows a good gunsmith that can do a "Melt job" and shorten the tube on my Super Blackhawk.

112 posted on 07/09/2003 8:11:51 PM PDT by Chuckster ("If honor were profitable, everybody would be honorable." Thomas More)
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To: 76834
Have been looking around for old .03 Springfields, .303 British or the best of all, a M1 Garand. These are getting very hard to find and what I have seen are very pricy and not in good shape.

Nonesense. CMP (Civilian Marksmanship Program) just released a batch of '03 "Springfields" of various manufacture, I picked up three, one real Springfield Armory and two Remingtons. They also have M1 Garands, though I got my Garand from Militech, more expensive but like new. British Enfield SMLEs in .303 Brit are still dirt cheap. Check out Gibbs Rifle Company on line.

I'm with you. Some of the finest firearms ever devised were designed at the turn of the 20th Century. It's hard to find a better (More accurate and reliable) rifle than the M1903 and the M1911 is arguably the best personal defense pistol available.

113 posted on 07/09/2003 8:21:40 PM PDT by Chuckster ("If honor were profitable, everybody would be honorable." Thomas More)
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To: AdamSelene235
Well, damn.

I need another battle rifle. Guess I'll make up another FN.

114 posted on 07/09/2003 8:23:31 PM PDT by wcbtinman (Only the first one is expensive, all the rest are free.)
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To: ought-six
I'm happy for you. I keep hearing horror stories about 'FOID's and those that run afoul of Daley's storm troopers.
115 posted on 07/09/2003 8:38:11 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: jeremiah
In related news it has been reported that Kofi Annan has sought phsychiatric counseling for severe depression after receiving this report.
116 posted on 07/09/2003 8:44:57 PM PDT by semaj
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To: Chuckster
About old weapons:

Kinda getting off topic but when the 3rd was doing "Thunder Run" in downtown Baghdad the nooze people said they had the most modern weapons in the world.
I checked it out and saw a lot of M2 .50 Brownings doing what they do best.
This weapon dates to 1923!!!!

Gotta love "Ma Deuce"
117 posted on 07/09/2003 8:47:31 PM PDT by 76834
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To: Mr. Mojo
it would be good for wanna be tyrants to remember that FACT ... AND that there is only so much that we will take
118 posted on 07/09/2003 8:48:30 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: Southack
Your #80 is all true and good. But you must remember that when individuals, groups and even governments are animated by evil, reason and logic flies in the face of the reality you described . Evil is evil for its' own sake. It cares not about government overthrow, economic collapse, subjugation of people, or foreign policy changes. Its' sole intent is to destroy with whatever weapon or power is most readily available.
119 posted on 07/09/2003 9:03:15 PM PDT by semaj
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To: Southack
Your #80 is all true and good. But you must remember that when individuals, groups and even governments are animated by evil, reason and logic flies in the face of the reality you described . Evil is evil for its' own sake. It cares not about government overthrow, economic collapse, subjugation of people, or foreign policy changes. Its' sole intent is to destroy with whatever weapon or power is most readily available.
120 posted on 07/09/2003 9:05:32 PM PDT by semaj
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