[Swiss]

Libertarian beliefs ignore one simple fact, societies will regulate behavior.

Even the most radical of Libertarians has limits to what behavior is acceptable or not, if you gave people a questionare of a thousand different devient behaviors they would find at least one that even though it don't affect their physical well being or harm their property they would want regulated.

The question for those who truly want liberty in the long run is how to deal with the need for regulation vrs individual rights. It seems that giving 50 independent states and multiple local government increases the chance that minority rights is protected at least somewhere while majority viewpoints is also respected. With the laws being subjected to thousands of State Representives, PAC's, local movements and the will of the voters they will change more easily when needed than a national policy on morality.

If nine unelected judges can grant you your rights without question then they can take them away just as easy. Libertarians with realist beliefs should want the fight for liberty to be at the local level as a battle of ideas that they believe they can win in the political arena vrs having lawyers and judges protect our rights (anyone seriously trust a lawyer to defend liberty,anyone?)

[Cultural Jihad]

The Libertarians couldn't care less about the Constitution, as long as their moral-liberalism is being lauded and upheld. They would cheer at the rescinding of universal sufferage and the burning of the Capitol building so long as the toleration of sexual perversions, drug abuse, and porn were mandated by law.