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Dispute Simmers Over Web Site Posting Personal Data on Police
NY Times ^ | July 12, 2003 | ADAM LIPTAK

Posted on 07/11/2003 8:09:36 PM PDT by jern

Dispute Simmers Over Web Site Posting Personal Data on Police By ADAM LIPTAK

illiam Sheehan does not like the police. He expresses his views about what he calls police corruption in Washington State on his Web site, where he also posts lists of police officers' addresses, home phone numbers and Social Security numbers.

State officials say those postings expose officers and their families to danger and invite identity theft. But neither litigation nor legislation has stopped Mr. Sheehan, who promises to expand his site to include every police and corrections officer in the state by the end of the year.

Mr. Sheehan says he obtains the information lawfully, from voter registration, property, motor vehicle and other official records. But his provocative use of personal data raises questions about how the law should address the dissemination of accurate, publicly available information that is selected and made accessible in a way that may facilitate the invasion of privacy, computer crime, even violence.

Larry Erickson, executive director of the Washington Association of Sheriffs and Police Chiefs, says the organization's members are disturbed by Mr. Sheehan's site.

"Police officers go out at night," Mr. Erickson said, "they make people mad, and they leave their families behind."

The law generally draws no distinction between information that is nominally public but hard to obtain and information that can be fetched with an Internet search engine and a few keystrokes. The dispute over Mr. Sheehan's site is similar to a debate that has been heatedly taken up around the nation, about whether court records that are public in paper form should be freely available on the Internet.

In 1989, in a case not involving computer technology, the Supreme Court did allow the government to refuse journalists' Freedom of Information Act request for paper copies of information it had compiled from arrest and conviction records available in scattered public files. The court cited the "practical obscurity" of the original records.

But once accurate information is in private hands like Mr. Sheehan's, the courts have been extremely reluctant to interfere with its dissemination.

Mr. Sheehan, a 41-year-old computer engineer in Mill Creek, Wash., near Seattle, says his postings hold the police accountable, by facilitating picketing, the serving of legal papers and research into officers' criminal histories. His site collects news articles and court papers about what he describes as inadequate and insincere police investigations, and about police officers who have themselves run afoul of the law.

His low opinion of the police has its roots, Mr. Sheehan says, in a 1998 dispute with the Police Department of Kirkland, Wash., over whether he lied in providing an alibi for a friend charged with domestic violence. Mr. Sheehan was found guilty of making a false statement and harassing a police officer and was sentenced to six months in jail, but served no time: the convictions were overturned.

He started his Web site in the spring of 2001. There are other sites focused on accusations of police abuse, he said, "but they stop short of listing addresses."

Yet if his site goes farther than others, Mr. Sheehan says, still it is not too far. "There is not a single incident," he said, "where a police officer has been harassed as a result of police-officer information being on the Internet."

Last year, in response to a complaint by the Kirkland police about Mr. Sheehan's site, the Washington Legislature enacted a law prohibiting the dissemination of the home addresses, phone numbers, birth dates and Social Security numbers of law enforcement, corrections and court personnel if it was meant "to harm or intimidate."

As a result, Mr. Sheehan, who had taken delight in bringing his project to the attention of local police departments, removed those pieces of information from his site. But he put them back in May, when a federal judge, deciding on a challenge brought by Mr. Sheehan himself, struck down the law as unconstitutional.

The ruling, by John C. Coughenour, chief judge of the Federal District Court in Seattle, said Mr. Sheehan's site was "analytically indistinguishable from a newspaper."

"There is cause for concern," Judge Coughenour wrote, "when the Legislature enacts a statute proscribing a type of political speech in a concerted effort to silence particular speakers."

The state government, he continued, "boldly asserts the broad right to outlaw any speech — whether it be anti-Semitic, anti-choice, radical religious, or critical of police — so long as a jury of one's peers concludes that the speaker subjectively intends to intimidate others with that speech."

Bruce E. H. Johnson, a Seattle lawyer specializing in First Amendment issues, said Judge Coughenour was correct in striking down the statute because it treated identical publicly available information differently depending on the authorities' perception of the intent of the person who disseminated it.

"It forces local prosecutors to become thought police," Mr. Johnson said.

Elena Garella, Mr. Sheehan's lawyer, said there was one principle at the heart of the case.

"Once the cat is out of the bag," she said, "the government has no business censoring information or punishing people who disseminate it."

Fred Olson, a spokesman for the state attorney general, Christine O. Gregoire, said the state would not appeal Judge Coughenour's decision.

"Our attorneys reviewed the decision and the case law," Mr. Olson said, "and they just felt there was very, very little likelihood that we would prevail on appeal. Our resources are much better used to find a legislative solution."

But Bill Finkbeiner, a state senator who was the main sponsor of the law that was struck down, said the judge's opinion left little room for a legislative repair. He said he was frustrated.

"This isn't just bad for police officers and corrections employees," Mr. Finkbeiner said. "It really doesn't bode well for anybody. Access to personal information changes when that information is put in electronic form."

Mr. Sheehan says one sort of data he has posted has given him pause.

"I'll be honest and say I do have a quandary over the Social Security numbers," he said. "I'm going to publish them because that's how I got the rest of my information, and I want to let people verify my data. But our state government shouldn't be releasing that data."

Lt. Rex Caldwell, a spokesman for the Police Department in Kirkland, said his colleagues there were resigned to Mr. Sheehan's site, and added that much of the information posted on it was out of date.

When the matter first came up, "people were extremely unhappy about it," Lieutenant Caldwell said. "Now it's more of an annoyance than anything else. The official line from the chief is that we're still concerned. At the same time, everyone's greatest fear, of people using this to track them down, has not materialized."

Nor is there any indication that the site has led to identity theft, he said.

Brightening, Lieutenant Caldwell said some officers even welcomed the posting of their home addresses, if that encouraged Mr. Sheehan to visit.

"If he wants to drop by the house," Lieutenant Caldwell said, "the police officers would be more than happy to welcome him. We're all armed and trained."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: privacy
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To: CWOJackson
Here's hoping you receive your own rewards soon...

Oh I'm ready, but I hope I'm in line behind a couple of "peace officers".

I want to hear their explanations to the Almighty for the "works" they have done.

Pleasant dreams to you and yours...also!!!

81 posted on 07/11/2003 10:34:20 PM PDT by Brian S
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To: CWOJackson
Oh please. You can go right now and make a "Sheenen is and A$$hole" site and put whatever you want there.

But it's good to see that you really don't care at all about equal treatment of personal information; afterall, the cops obviously deserve it right?

No, I meant what I said. Everyone get's to do it or nobody, you're just not listening, I half agreed with you a few posts ago. Is agreeing not enough, or should I also stand on my head and spit wooden nickles out my ass?

82 posted on 07/11/2003 10:34:32 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: CWOJackson
If I were a terrorist, I would call such a website a valuable resource. It would save time. People forget that small detail.
83 posted on 07/11/2003 10:36:10 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
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To: af_vet_rr
Then you would be in favor of the deputies post the same information about you on a website?

As you say, no reason why they can't turn it around.

84 posted on 07/11/2003 10:36:30 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: af_vet_rr
#80

Bingo. They're slowly making it us v them by getting bigger bolder and more invasive. Then they're surprised when us treats them like them treats us.

Hey mom, hows my grammar!?

85 posted on 07/11/2003 10:37:46 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: AAABEST
Yeap, cops just pull people over to harrass them. They never do it because maybe the person is breaking a law, or heaven forbid..

I didn't say or even allude to any of that, what are you talking about?

"Oh bah. They love their Friday night roadblocks where everyone gets asked for their papers and gets a mini interrogation, it's not like it's torture for them and nobody is forcing them to do it. They do it because they can."

You just did - once again.

86 posted on 07/11/2003 10:38:07 PM PDT by Brytani (Politics: n. from Greek; "poli"-many; "tics"-ugly, bloodsucking parasites.)
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To: AAABEST
Of course, I obviously misunderstood you. For some reason I took your comment, "By the way things sound though, he's being gone after and harmed more than anyone who he's put on his site. I'll be he's got some legal bills.", as some sort of justification for Mr. Sheehan. Glad to see that you agree, he has absolutely no right to post this kind of information. Excuse my misunderstanding.
87 posted on 07/11/2003 10:38:28 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
But you must remember, they share something in common with that terrorist...they hate the police.
88 posted on 07/11/2003 10:38:59 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: bjcintennessee
Guilty until they prove themselves innocent in your little mind. Great judicial system you'd have for us.
89 posted on 07/11/2003 10:39:36 PM PDT by Brytani (Politics: n. from Greek; "poli"-many; "tics"-ugly, bloodsucking parasites.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Terrorists don't want to go after cops. They want to go after unarmed civilians.

Get your phone number unlisted if you're worried about it. Go off the grid if you can. I wish I could.

90 posted on 07/11/2003 10:40:21 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Brytani
You know, I used to be very pro-police. But then I had an incident where a cop said he had the right to block my drive-way because his car was on a public rd. Then my feeling of the police went from positive to very negative. I only wished I could have had a cam-corder/video camera on when he told me that.
91 posted on 07/11/2003 10:41:31 PM PDT by David1
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To: CWOJackson
Then you would be in favor of the deputies post the same information about you on a website?

YES!!!! Geesh you are thick. Except I don't like the SS# and don't see how this guy is getting away with that. I agree that is certainly wrong. Although if SS#'s weren't used as an orwellian ID# as they are today, that wouldn't be a problem either.

92 posted on 07/11/2003 10:41:45 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: af_vet_rr
Once again I will post this. Random searches/roadblocks and checks are all allowed under various state law because the legislature enacted a bill into law, or the public voted it in by ballot measure.

Cops do NOT have the luxury of picking and choosing which laws they will enforce and which ones they will ignore. As much as you and others would like to see them do.

You have a bitch about random searches/roadblocks - take it up with the politicians in your state or the state you are in where it happens AND with the supreme court who decided they were legal.
93 posted on 07/11/2003 10:42:28 PM PDT by Brytani (Politics: n. from Greek; "poli"-many; "tics"-ugly, bloodsucking parasites.)
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To: David1
In that case my feelings toward a particular officer would have headed south, but police officers in general? No.
94 posted on 07/11/2003 10:42:47 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Brytani
It's good to know you've been conditioned to accept whatever the government thinks is proper for you ;-)
95 posted on 07/11/2003 10:45:28 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: David1
No different then hating all blacks because some of them break the laws, or hating latino's because some of them illegally enter this country and cause problems.

So you believe it's logical to group all cops into the some basket of evil because you had a problem with one of them?
96 posted on 07/11/2003 10:45:54 PM PDT by Brytani (Politics: n. from Greek; "poli"-many; "tics"-ugly, bloodsucking parasites.)
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To: CWOJackson
You think his situation is a bummer, I'd like to show you some pics I that I took and what happend to me very recently.

BTW I'm an honorary member of the Florida Sheriffs Association.

97 posted on 07/11/2003 10:46:07 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: Sir Gawain
Yep, the nerd in the back of the class grew up and now has a gun and a badge and is going to make sure you know who's boss.

Don't know if the cop I'm picturing was a nerd, but he went to high school with my kids and it was widely known that he had a major complex about being short (he'd been in several fights because of it). Since my son is 6'3", this guy thought his uniform, badge and gun added several feet to his diminished stature. When my son stated that his car was off the road when then other vehicle struck it, this littly guy whips out his flashlight, shining it in my son's eyes, and starts shouting "Are you arguing with me?!". And he thunders forward, forcing my son to step back while he continues to blind him with the flashlight and rail at him for disputing him.

98 posted on 07/11/2003 10:47:02 PM PDT by bjcintennessee
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To: trussell
But it still does not give them the right to harass anyone.
99 posted on 07/11/2003 10:47:05 PM PDT by David1
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To: af_vet_rr
You'd be better off realizing that I understand the ways laws are put into effect, unlike some on this thread who seem to believe cops not only make, break, uphold, decide, enact and enforce the laws.

However, in the real world where a elementary school civics class might come in handy, cops do not make the laws, however it is their sworn duty to enforce them.

100 posted on 07/11/2003 10:47:38 PM PDT by Brytani (Politics: n. from Greek; "poli"-many; "tics"-ugly, bloodsucking parasites.)
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