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A Web Site Causes Unease in Police
NY Times ^ | 7/12/03 | Adam Liptak

Posted on 07/12/2003 7:41:07 AM PDT by NYC Republican

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To: NYC Republican
This idiot is putting police at greater risk. I wish I could tell you what I'd love to have done to him, but I'd probably be banned from FR.

Sounds exactly like what the Fetus People have done to Doctors performing entirely legal abortions.

They disaprove of their activities, so they shine a spotlight on their personal lives.

So9

21 posted on 07/12/2003 8:20:04 AM PDT by Servant of the Nine (Real Texicans; we're grizzled, we're grumpy and we're armed)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER
That list of police names is more than a little suggestive. This reminds me of the kind of police corruption for which a certain country is famous.
22 posted on 07/12/2003 8:21:16 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: AAABEST
....and it's all legally sanctioned.

Then the cops are not the right target for your rage are they?

The internet makes the world small again, not much different than a small town say 100 years ago where your Sheriff was known by everyone.

And the sheriff also knew everyone in town and had a chance of being able to perceive where a personal threat might come from. Not so now.... The town that cop still must work in is no longer small. You are concerned that the police have access to information about the entire populace, to use in the event that they might need to look at one of us. That is the gift of a city block full of file cabinets full of stuff that one would never care to look at in entirety.

This is not that.... this is a website singling our cops to those most likely to be leading the angry mob.

23 posted on 07/12/2003 8:21:23 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: NYC Republican
Somehow this seemed inevitable once the U.S Supreme Court ruled that publishing addresses, SSN, etc., of sex offenders online wasn't a violation of their right to privacy. I still don't understand why they didn't rule that it was -- but like the RKBA it could be lost upon conviction.

Then again, the SCOTUS seems to be working from a different text than the rest of us. For example, this "right of privacy" that I can't find anywhere in the Constitution is a pretty odd beast -- it protects abortion, but not information people might consider private.

24 posted on 07/12/2003 8:24:00 AM PDT by Monk Dimittis
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To: HairOfTheDog
Oh Lord..... I just have to remember that there are really very few people like you around.

Actually there are many of us around. In my case I've had my life very much disrupted by a bad cop, and I know many people who've had similar experiences.

Some people don't take kindly to official abuse and fight back.... it's the American way. If they'd police themselves and quit defending every rogue in the "brotherhood" they wouldn't have these problems. Instead of purging the creeps from their midst they bunker. It's called backlash.

25 posted on 07/12/2003 8:25:49 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: NYC Republican
I didn't look at his website myself because I have no interest. I see absolutely no reason to have SS numbers or phone numbers listed. Would YOU like to have your's listed via an activist's site? (Btw, I bet you all put your names on Bush's do-not-call-list.) However, I would be interested in a listing of arrest statistics, number of complaints against them, demographics and such.
26 posted on 07/12/2003 8:26:49 AM PDT by J. Byron
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To: HairOfTheDog
Yeah right, and when the sucker blows away your puppy cause it is yapping, who do you go after, the people that's right cause he is protected.

The feed off the public teat like the pols, it should all be disclosed.

I want to know where oly snowe got her money, I want to know where dick daley was last night and why.

the disclosure that public rats have now are jokes, I mean I made over a million but under 10 last year, and no you can't see my off shore accounts.

An open society is a free society.

27 posted on 07/12/2003 8:29:51 AM PDT by dts32041 ("The avalanche has started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.")
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To: AAABEST
I guarantee that 99% of all cops will excuse or endorse everything above. I've seen this mentality on this forum, it's a certain mind set that puts police in a special category who are entitled to take such liberties with our privacy.

Well said. It's seems obvious the LEO's, in this case, took advantage of Sheehan's loyalty to his friend(?) The legal system decided to make an example out of him, put him through their grinder, then cut him the slack he deserved (apparently) in the first place.

I don't blame him for being angry and wanting a little, virtual, "street justice".

28 posted on 07/12/2003 8:31:10 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: dts32041
Yeah right, and when the sucker blows away your puppy cause it is yapping, who do you go after,

The department who hired him to do work he was not well suited for. He is only a personal threat in the job... His wife, family and residence is not my business.

29 posted on 07/12/2003 8:31:30 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: J. Byron
Well, considering I've already had my name published in a local paper when the idiots there decided to print every concealed-carry permit in the city (it's a public record, you know), I'm not feeling too much sympathy here. What's good for the goose is good for the gander...
30 posted on 07/12/2003 8:34:52 AM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (The best thing about the End of the World is how many a**holes it'll eliminate...)
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To: NYC Republican
His site collects news articles and court papers about what he describes as inadequate and insincere police investigations, and about police officers who have themselves run afoul of the law.I think this is important public information and deserves to be posted on the Internet. The public has no duty to protect the police from themselves.
31 posted on 07/12/2003 8:34:55 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: elbucko
The public has no duty to protect the police from themselves.

No himself. We do have a duty to protect them from the bowels of society that we *HIRE HIM* to go take care of on our behalf.

32 posted on 07/12/2003 8:37:25 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Yes it is, who will guard the guardians.

When there are no longer any gurads on the guardians, then kiss your butt good bye.

If I want to protest the sucker at home I need to know where he is at.

Or would you deny my right of peaceful protest and assembly?

33 posted on 07/12/2003 8:37:27 AM PDT by dts32041 ("The avalanche has started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.")
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To: dts32041
Your protest is against the department that hired him, and the legislatures that wrote the laws you don't like.
34 posted on 07/12/2003 8:38:29 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: AAABEST
The internet makes the world small again, not much different than a small town say 100 years ago where your Sheriff was known by everyone.

Once again, well said. A hundred years ago, a LEO in a small town that became too ambitious about the letter of the law and had disregard for the spirit, might find his boots nailed to the porch one morning. Police are public servants, not representatives of the King.

35 posted on 07/12/2003 8:43:44 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: HairOfTheDog
Just so you know, if you could somehow get my old posts on FR, you would find I used to be virulently pro-cop. I'm also an Honorary member of the Florda Sheriff's Association.

That was until some s**thead deputy decided he was going to win an argument with me and do it illegally. I'm going to put a post up regarding this after I go to court, but I promise you he picked the wrong guy this time. I'll ping you to the thread when it goes up.

I'm guessing that this webmaster had a similar experience, as do many many people, which indicates the system needs reform if there is this much backlash. IOW it's not just a rogue here and there, it's a systemic problem.

I really hate to generalize but next time you see a bunch of cops together check them out. A majority of them are overwieght, not very bright and socially inept. Maybe we need to give them a better salary as it is, these guys power to competence ratio is to high.

That said, I'm uncomfortable with him posting SS#'s.

36 posted on 07/12/2003 8:51:42 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: HairOfTheDog
We do have a duty to protect them from the bowels of society that we *HIRE HIM* to go take care of on our behalf.

Yeah! Well one time the "bowels of society" tried to rob me at my place of business. I had a phone to 911 in one hand and a 1911 in the other. When the Torrance Police arrived, after 20 minutes and going to the wrong address, they let the thugs go, lack of evidence. I called the watch commander in outrage. They sent a crime scene detail and found money and a gun. When they ran the names of my unsuccessful assailants, they all had records.

Now before you say I'm lucky to be alive, I once carried a sidearm at the insistence of President Lyndon Johnson, so I'm in no mood for the standard LEO's admonition to leave it to "professionals". The "pro's" I've seen make amateurs appear competent. I think EVERY police department should have a site for citizens to post complaints that can only be removed by Internal Affairs or the DA.

37 posted on 07/12/2003 8:55:17 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: HairOfTheDog
Nope it is against the man who executed the action.

The department didn't do the action, the people didn't do the action, a single enity did the action.

38 posted on 07/12/2003 8:55:39 AM PDT by dts32041 ("The avalanche has started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.")
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To: HairOfTheDog
One more disclosure. I believe anyone who fights back, should do it legally and morally. The minute someone breaks the law they're wrong.

We have to remember to disclose, internet rants have caused many posters to be set upon. I've seen it right here on FR. Be careful if you've had a few adult beverages.

39 posted on 07/12/2003 8:57:10 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: NYC Republican
This should be illegal.
40 posted on 07/12/2003 9:01:02 AM PDT by Porterville (I support US total global, world domination; how's that for sensitive??)
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