Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

A Web Site Causes Unease in Police
NY Times ^ | 7/12/03 | Adam Liptak

Posted on 07/12/2003 7:41:07 AM PDT by NYC Republican

William Sheehan does not like the police. He expresses his views about what he calls police corruption in Washington State on his Web site, where he also posts lists of police officers' addresses, home phone numbers and Social Security numbers.

State officials say those postings expose officers and their families to danger and invite identity theft. But neither litigation nor legislation has stopped Mr. Sheehan, who promises to expand his site to include every police and corrections officer in the state by the end of the year.

Advertisement

Check Delivery Options | 50% Off-Click Here!

Mr. Sheehan says he obtains the information lawfully, from voter registration, property, motor vehicle and other official records. But his provocative use of personal data raises questions about how the law should address the dissemination of accurate, publicly available information that is selected and made accessible in a way that may facilitate the invasion of privacy, computer crime, even violence.

Larry Erickson, executive director of the Washington Association of Sheriffs and Police Chiefs, says the organization's members are disturbed by Mr. Sheehan's site.

"Police officers go out at night," Mr. Erickson said, "they make people mad, and they leave their families behind."

The law generally draws no distinction between information that is nominally public but hard to obtain and information that can be fetched with an Internet search engine and a few keystrokes. The dispute over Mr. Sheehan's site is similar to a debate that has been heatedly taken up around the nation, about whether court records that are public in paper form should be freely available on the Internet.

In 1989, in a case not involving computer technology, the Supreme Court did allow the government to refuse journalists' Freedom of Information Act request for paper copies of information it had compiled from arrest and conviction records available in scattered public files. The court cited the "practical obscurity" of the original records.

But once accurate information is in private hands like Mr. Sheehan's, the courts have been extremely reluctant to interfere with its dissemination.

Mr. Sheehan, a 41-year-old computer engineer in Mill Creek, Wash., near Seattle, says his postings hold the police accountable, by facilitating picketing, the serving of legal papers and research into officers' criminal histories. His site collects news articles and court papers about what he describes as inadequate and insincere police investigations, and about police officers who have themselves run afoul of the law.

His low opinion of the police has its roots, Mr. Sheehan says, in a 1998 dispute with the Police Department of Kirkland, Wash., over whether he lied in providing an alibi for a friend charged with domestic violence. Mr. Sheehan was found guilty of making a false statement and harassing a police officer and was sentenced to six months in jail, but served no time: the convictions were overturned.

He started his Web site in the spring of 2001. There are other sites focused on accusations of police abuse, he said, "but they stop short of listing addresses."

Yet if his site goes farther than others, Mr. Sheehan says, still it is not too far. "There is not a single incident," he said, "where a police officer has been harassed as a result of police-officer information being on the Internet."

Last year, in response to a complaint by the Kirkland police about Mr. Sheehan's site, the Washington Legislature enacted a law prohibiting the dissemination of the home addresses, phone numbers, birth dates and Social Security numbers of law enforcement, corrections and court personnel if it was meant "to harm or intimidate."

As a result, Mr. Sheehan, who had taken delight in bringing his project to the attention of local police departments, removed those pieces of information from his site. But he put them back in May, when a federal judge, deciding on a challenge brought by Mr. Sheehan himself, struck down the law as unconstitutional.

The ruling, by John C. Coughenour, chief judge of the Federal District Court in Seattle, said Mr. Sheehan's site was "analytically indistinguishable from a newspaper."

"There is cause for concern," Judge Coughenour wrote, "when the Legislature enacts a statute proscribing a type of political speech in a concerted effort to silence particular speakers

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS:
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-139 next last
This idiot is putting police at greater risk. I wish I could tell you what I'd love to have done to him, but I'd probably be banned from FR.
1 posted on 07/12/2003 7:41:07 AM PDT by NYC Republican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: All
Totally off-topic, but did you know that only about 1,000 people contribute to keep Free Republic up and running? That is out of over 100,000 registered users on this site.
What would you do Without Free Republic?


2 posted on 3/6/02 7:30 AM Pacific by grammymoon:

"What would you do Without FR?

How would You Feel without FR?

Suppose one day you tried to log on and Free Republic wasn’t there?

Where would you get your up to the minute news? How about the live threads as things are happening?

How would you know about the latest Demorat scams, anti-second amendment schemes and all the other liberal, anti-American ploys that are tried every single day?

Insight into world affairs, brilliant wit, sharp retorts, instant information gratification are a few of the things that make FR so vital.

How would you keep on top of things without FR?

How would you know who to contact to complain about the lying politicians, Media Bias, Hollyweirds latest mouth off, sponsors of these idiots, company policies that are unfair and all the other things we need to know to counteract the liberal mindset and the evil plans of liberals?

How would you be part of a Freep?

What would you do without FR????

Freedom isn’t free.

If you enjoy the site and find it a place of like minded Americans to sound off, to get together, to fight back, to have your voice heard and make a difference,PLEASE CONTRIBUTE NOW ! Donate Here By Secure Server

Jim can’t do this alone.

The liberals are sure we won’t be able to keep FR up & running. Prove them wrong. Show them we are indeed united Freepers. Whether it is $5.00, $50.00 or more, it all adds up. Please send a donation now to Free Republic.

Or mail checks to
FreeRepublic , LLC
PO BOX 9771
FRESNO, CA 93794
or you can use
PayPal at Jimrob@psnw.com

Become A Monthly Donor

STOP BY AND BUMP THE FUNDRAISER THREAD

**** And say THANKS to Jim Robinson! ****

It is in the breaking news sidebar!

2 posted on 07/12/2003 7:41:59 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYC Republican
I think it should be done to all "public servants" full disclosure, money where they live, etc.

They all work for us and no one should become a millonaire off tax money, including HR perot.

You don't want anything known about you don't got into public service.

Public service should equal no privacy.

3 posted on 07/12/2003 7:45:09 AM PDT by dts32041 ("The avalanche has started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYC Republican
I wish I could tell you what I'd love to have done to him,

I agree with you even though I don't know exactly, but I can guess....

4 posted on 07/12/2003 7:47:03 AM PDT by b4its2late (FOOTBALL REFEREES - Sure, it's tough to play with us, but there's no game without us.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYC Republican; Admin Moderator
Already posted here with tons of comments and no excerpt.
5 posted on 07/12/2003 7:48:50 AM PDT by AAABEST
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYC Republican
This idiot is putting police at greater risk. I wish I could tell you what I'd love to have done to him,

They're not at any great risk now. On the job injuries and deaths are much lower than pilots, electricians, contruction workers and I believe even handymen.

Funny your comment mirrors many of the cop's quotes on the subject. They say on one side of their mouth how conerned they are about the potential for violence, out of the other side they want real-world harm to come to a guy running a web site.

Poor babies.

6 posted on 07/12/2003 7:52:46 AM PDT by AAABEST
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYC Republican
Mr. Sheehan, a 41-year-old computer engineer in Mill Creek, Wash., near Seattle, says his postings hold the police accountable, by facilitating picketing, the serving of legal papers and research into officers' criminal histories. His site collects news articles and court papers about what he describes as inadequate and insincere police investigations, and about police officers who have themselves run afoul of the law.

Well, that is complete B.S., when considered with his earlier "Mr. Sheehan, ...who promises to expand his site to include every police and corrections officer in the state by the end of the year. ". No citizen needs personal home contact information to serve papers if they have been wronged by a cop. If they are wronged by a cop, the department should and would be served. This is not news to Mr. Sheehan, of course.

We hire police to deal with the very worst evil in our communities.... To give them a tool to seek revenge on the pretext of fighting some heroic battle for justice is irresponsible, and I can only hope he doesn't get someone killed.

I am in Washington state.

7 posted on 07/12/2003 7:53:59 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dts32041
Public service should equal no privacy.

That's lunacy.... A cop's home life and family are not the public's property or the public's business... His job performance is.

I am not going to hire someone to deal with the very worst of our society and then fail to protect them as best I can. They owe us good work, we owe them our support and protection, and loyalty.

8 posted on 07/12/2003 8:01:51 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: NYC Republican
This idiot is putting police at greater risk. I wish I could tell you what I'd love to have done to him, but I'd probably be banned from FR.

Police would love to have the fingerprints, DNA profile, tax returns, bank account balances and complete gun registration information on all law-abiding citizens at their fingertips at all times.

But we aren't supposed to know anything about them?

Mabye they should all wear black ski masks when on duty too.

That way their privacy would be completely protected.

9 posted on 07/12/2003 8:02:31 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYC Republican
Being a cop is almost as dangerous as being a gardener.

U.S. Department of Labor
Occupational Fatalities per 100,000
Year 1999
Commercial Fishermen
162
Timber Cutters
154
Air Pilots
65
Construction Laborers
37
Garbage Collectors
34
Truck Drivers
28
Electricians
12
Gardeners (non farm)
11
Police
11
Carpenters
7

10 posted on 07/12/2003 8:06:05 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: HairOfTheDog
in re: We hire police to deal with the very worst evil in our communities....

who are you talking about, speeders or public smokers?

11 posted on 07/12/2003 8:10:30 AM PDT by tjblair
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: HairOfTheDog
I am not going to hire someone to deal with the very worst of our society and then fail to protect them as best I can.

I would tend to agree if the rules were the same all the way around, but they're not. OUR privacy is not protected from an entire slew of government officials including police. They make lists, watch our finincial transactions, credit card purchases, stop our cars at DUI roadblocks with dogs asking for papers, make us undress at airports, grope our women....and it's all legally sanctioned.

I guarantee that 99% of all cops will excuse or endore everything above. I've seen this mentality on this forum, it's a certain mindset that puts police in a special category who are entitled to take such liberties with our privacy.

I think this site is great, we're looking back at them. The internet makes the world small again, not much different than a small town say 100 years ago where your Sheriff was known by everyone.

12 posted on 07/12/2003 8:10:36 AM PDT by AAABEST
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: NYC Republican
This idiot is putting police at greater risk. I wish I could tell you what I'd love to have done to him, but I'd probably be banned from FR. You must be from NY where you are brained washed by no guns.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

I guess you don't get it. Some Police are just as dirty as the scum them put behind bars. They kill more innocent citizens than CCW or RTC owners.

You must think that police are as pure as the driven snow.

The newspapers are full of dirty police going to jail for fabricating stories.

You are the one at risk no the police, because they have firearms to protect them. Don't think for a minute that their homes are unarmed.

13 posted on 07/12/2003 8:11:17 AM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER (Citizen Carry)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYC Republican
Sheehan's web site: http://www.justicefiles.org
14 posted on 07/12/2003 8:12:34 AM PDT by George W. Bush
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: E. Pluribus Unum; AAABEST
Oh Lord..... I just have to remember that there are really very few people like you around....
15 posted on 07/12/2003 8:13:12 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: CHICAGOFARMER
Five police officers arrested for involvement in criminal activity
ktrk ^


Posted on 07/12/2003 12:45 AM CDT by chance33_98




Five police officers arrested for involvement in criminal activity



By The Associated Press

(7/11/03 - HOUSTON) — Five Houston police officers were arrested Friday on charges of taking money from bar owners in exchange for protection and forewarning of upcoming enforcement actions by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission, the city's police chief announced.

Chief Clarence Bradford said the officers, who have each worked for the department for more than a decade, were arrested after an internal affairs investigation revealed they were working in groups each Friday and Saturday night and taking between $25 and $50 each night from a number of bar owners.

"When you have veteran officers who are involved in this type of activity, you have someone who clearly knows what is expected of them," Bradford said.

Bradford said all five officers knew their actions were illegal and had been fired.

Each was charged with engaging in organized criminal activity and remained jailed Friday night. Bradford said three of the five arrested were patrol officers: Rolando Cruz, 35, a 10-year veteran; Salve R. Ramirez, 45, a 19-year veteran; and David A. Gamboa, 44, an 18-year veteran.

Also charged was an officer with the robbery division, Freddie T. Gonzales, 41, an 18-year veteran, and Javier Gomez, 40, a 19-year veteran who worked in the community services division.

If convicted, the officers can face up to life in prison and a $10,000 fine.

Gomez also was charged with theft of a firearm by a public servant for taking a gun from undercover officer, who was posing as a bar owner during the internal investigation. If convicted of that charge, Gomez could face up to 10 years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

Harris County District Attorney Chuck Rosenthal said representatives from his office assisted in the investigation, which began more than six months ago, and are now asking other bar owners to come forward if they know of unreported activity by the officers.

"These people are now off the street and people can come forward," Rosenthal said. "This is simply an antidotal situation. There is no reason to believe this is epidemic. ... I know that those other officers are as disappointed as the command staff ... that this kind of thing would actually happen."

Houston Police Union president Hans Marticiuc did not immediately return a phone message left by The Associated Press Friday.

Bradford said illegal underage drinking, prostitution and narcotics activity was taking place in some of the clubs and bars.

"These officers, for the protection money they were receiving, would turn their heads," Houston Police department spokesman Robert Hurst said.
16 posted on 07/12/2003 8:16:40 AM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER (Citizen Carry)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: E. Pluribus Unum
Heh. According to your figures this guy is roughly 15 times more heroic than the average cop.


17 posted on 07/12/2003 8:17:12 AM PDT by AAABEST
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: dts32041
I think it should be done to all "public servants" full disclosure, money where they live, etc.

You're right on. We need to do this with Federal bureaucrats. It is the only way to "encourage" them to not be abusive to the public. I am convinced that many of them use pseudonyms when dealing with the public. It's like all the swat teams that wear masks and do not display badges. You can never identify who broke up your house or killed your dog.

Have any of you ever noticed how few of the Fed's 3,500,000 employees you have ever met? That is not an accident. During my three score, I met one EPA guy and One IRS employee. They were both neighbors. We must identify and continually update information on these people. A monumental task, but feasible.

18 posted on 07/12/2003 8:17:24 AM PDT by nygoose
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: CHICAGOFARMER
You are the one at risk no the police, because they have firearms to protect them. Don't think for a minute that their homes are unarmed.

And if their homes are actually unarmed when they aren't present, don't worry. The police force will protect their families when the policeperson isn't home. Exactly like they protect the rest of us.
19 posted on 07/12/2003 8:18:16 AM PDT by George W. Bush
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: HairOfTheDog
Oh Lord..... I just have to remember that there are really very few people like you around....

Thank God there is only one of you.

20 posted on 07/12/2003 8:19:29 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-139 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson