[Prodigal Son]

Well, we both have our opinions on this. Apparantly some of the guys on the ground see it both ways:

“The most significant negative comment was reference [to] the M-4’s range,” the Army report stated. “In the desert, there were times where soldiers needed to assault a building that may be 500+ meters distant across open terrain. They did not feel the M-4 provided effective fire at that range.”

[Armedanddangerous]

May I point out to everyone one important fact?

When it comes to standard military ammo, the 45acp beats the hell out of a 9mm any time. However, this is the problem.

The 9mm with standard 115 gr +p hollowpoint ammunition is quite a sufficient manstopper. I carry the Cor Bon version in my Glock 26.

As long as our troops are saddled with FMJ military ball ammunition, the M-9 will continue to be an insufficient manstopper.

Attack the ammo, not the gun.

Until then, get a new bullet, or go back to a proven manstopper, the 230 Gr ball 45 auto round.

[Justa]

"...soldiers needed to assault a building that may be 500+ meters distant across open terrain. They did not feel the M-4 provided effective fire at that range."

No kidding. Now just htf do you "assault" a building at 500 meters? Geesh. 500m = M-60, M-2 or artillery.