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How George Bush Is Losing Two Wars [troll zotted]
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Posted on 07/17/2003 12:20:03 PM PDT by nygop2

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To: MWS
True, true...It's so bad with me, I have to see that flashvid at least once a day!

I also cannot read a newspaper, watch a thunderstorm, or the nightly news with out "zot" coming to mind...

I HAVE MADE IT TO VALHALLA!!!!!

81 posted on 07/17/2003 1:12:47 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Ain't nothing worse than feeling obsolete....)
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To: Sangria
Does the constitution say that we should provide housing for those who will not support themselves? If it does, please tell me where.

Sure, we both know the answer to that but you bring up something of an odd coincidence.

Sometime before the start of the "Gulf War II" protests, I started seeing stickers and Xeroxed sheets being affixed to phone booths and traffic light switch boxes calling for adding a constitutional amendment to make housing a right. You can even see some of them still up along Broadway in the low 50's. Now, the last time I saw this kind of rubbish was when there was a raft of Alphabet City squatter evictions during Rudy's tenure.

What people OUTSIDE of New York shopuld keep in mind is this: any homeless person(s) requesting shelter from the city MUST be housed on the taxpayer's dime. This arose from an activist court's ruling about a decade ago. Also, a good portion of those "on the street" actually choose to be there. Of course, it's the fault of the Republicans...couldn't be the DemoRats.

Each season in NYC seems to bring some kind of overriding protest "theme". I'm a native and I've seen the cycle of insanity go from pet cause to pet cause...it seems that they have a two-month half-life before either something new is brought up or an evergreen chestnut is trotted out again.

This city is a MAGNET for head cases and lunatic libs...STILL the greatest city in the world despite all of that.

82 posted on 07/17/2003 1:13:01 PM PDT by Range Rover (Karma is a boomerang...)
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To: Range Rover
Wow, interesting...

BTW, Welcome to FreeRepublic!

83 posted on 07/17/2003 1:14:33 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Ain't nothing worse than feeling obsolete....)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
In fact, it might be best to link the Sacred Video to this thread... it's not an official Viking Kitten meeting thread without it!
84 posted on 07/17/2003 1:14:38 PM PDT by MWS (Errare humanum est, in errore perservare stultum.)
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To: nygop2
George Bush isn't losing, he's winning! WInning the battle, winning the war on the heathen barbarians. nygop2, you need to read the bible sometime, then you'll see that Bush is the best president we've ever had and a great man. God bless George Bush and GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!

Redneck
- If you don't agree with us, you ain't no American!
85 posted on 07/17/2003 1:16:01 PM PDT by RedneckRampage
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To: MWS
http://users.wolfcrews.com/toys/vikings/
86 posted on 07/17/2003 1:18:29 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Ain't nothing worse than feeling obsolete....)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
Hey BigB, it only hurts for a few days, sorta like coughing a hairball that's stuck...

*kaff* *kaff*

S'not too bad...I also offer the following pic for approval:

ZOT!!!

87 posted on 07/17/2003 1:18:47 PM PDT by TheBigB (In the immortal words of Freddy Mercury..."FLASH...Ahh-AHHHHH!...he's a miracle!")
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To: TheBigB
OOOOOOoooo...Impressive, Very impressive...
88 posted on 07/17/2003 1:20:27 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Ain't nothing worse than feeling obsolete....)
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To: TheBigB
Now THAT'S a pic!
89 posted on 07/17/2003 1:20:34 PM PDT by MWS (Errare humanum est, in errore perservare stultum.)
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To: nygop2
Try reading this you ZOT HOLE!


http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/774.htm

THE REAL IRAQ [Letter from Baghdad]

July 17, 2003 -- Open up almost any American or European publication these days, and you'll be bombarded with grim news about "horrific" conditions in Iraq - and America's "poor handling" of the post-war reconstruction effort. All of which, it is claimed, is made all the more tragic - because President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair maliciously exaggerated the threat from Iraq. They may have won the war, but they're losing they peace. Author and Middle East expert Amir Taheri spent several days on the ground in Iraq last week and found reality to be starkly different from what is so ubiquitously reported.

Here is a first-hand account of an Iraq that is rapidly moving forward in nearly every aspect of life - political, economic and cultural. And a people that, while understandably skeptical after decades of tyranny, is nonetheless hopeful - and grateful for their liberation.

- THE EDITORS

BAGHDAD, IRAQ

'THE Iraqi Intifada!" This is the cover story offered by Al- Watan Al-Arabi, a pro- Saddam Hussein weekly published in Paris. It finds an echo in the latest issue of America's Time magazine, which paints a bleak prospect for the newly liberated country. The daily Al Quds, another pro-Saddam paper, quotes from The Washington Post in support of its claim that "a popular war of resistance" is growing in Iraq. Some newspapers in the United States, Britain and "old Europe" go further by claiming that Iraq has become a "quagmire" or "another Vietnam." The Parisian daily Le Monde prefers the term "engrenage," which is both more chic and French.

This chorus wants us to believe that most Iraqis regret the ancien regime, and are ready to kill and die to expel their liberators.

Sorry, guys, this is not the case.

Neither the wishful thinking of part of the Arab media, long in the pay of Saddam, nor the visceral dislike of part of the Western media for George W. Bush and Tony Blair changes the facts on the ground in Iraq.

ONE fact is that a visitor to Iraq these days never finds anyone who wants Saddam back.

There are many complaints, mostly in Baghdad, about lack of security and power cuts. There is anxiety about the future at a time that middle-class unemployment is estimated at 40 percent. Iraqis also wonder why it is that the coalition does not communicate with them more effectively. That does not mean that there is popular support for violent action against the coalition.

Another fact is that the violence we have witnessed, especially against American troops, in the past six weeks is limited to less than 1 percent of the Iraqi territory, in the so-called "Sunni Triangle," which includes parts of Baghdad.

Elsewhere, the coalition presence is either accepted as a fact of life or welcomed. On the 4th of July some shops and private homes in various parts of Iraq, including the Kurdish areas and cities in the Shiite heartland, put up the star-spangled flag as a show of gratitude to the United States.

"We see our liberation as the start of a friendship with the U.S. and the U.K. that should last a thousand years," says Khalid Kishtaini, one of Iraq's leading novelists. "The U.S. and the U.K. showed that a friend in need is a friend indeed. Nothing can change that."

In the early days of the liberation, some mosque preachers tested the waters by speaking against "occupation." They soon realized that their congregations had a different idea. Today, the main theme in sermons at the mosques is about a partnership between the Iraqi people and the coalition to rebuild the war-shattered country and put it on the path of democracy.

Even the radical Shiite cleric Muqtada Sadr now says that "some good" could come out of the coalition's presence in Iraq. "The coalition must help us stabilize the situation," he says. "The healing period that we need would not be possible if we are suddenly left alone."

Yet another fact is that all 67 of Iraq's cities and 85 percent of the smaller towns now have fully functioning municipalities. Several ministries, including that of health and education, have also managed to get parts of their operations going again. The petroleum industry, too, is being revived with plans to produce up to 2.8 million barrels of crude oil a day before the year is out.

To be sure, life in Iraq today is no bed of roses. But don't forget that this is an immediate post-war situation. There is no famine - in fact, the bazaars are more replenished with food than ever since the late 1970s - while food prices, having jumped in the first weeks after liberation, are now lower than they were in the last years of Saddam's rule.

MOST hospitals are functioning again with essential medical supplies trickling in for the first time since 1999. Also, some 85 percent of primary and secondary schools and all but two of the nation's universities have reopened with a full turnout of pupils and teachers.

The difference is that there no longer are any mukahebrat (secret police) agents roaming the campuses and sitting at the back of classrooms to make sure lecturers and students do not discuss forbidden topics. Nor are the students required to start every day with a solemn oath of allegiance to the dictator.

There has been no mass exodus anywhere in Iraq. On the contrary, many Iraqis, driven out of their homes by Saddam, are returning to their towns and villages.

Their return has given the building industry, moribund in the last years of Saddam, a boost. Iraqi exiles and refugees abroad are also coming home, many from Iran and Turkey. Last month alone the Iranian Red Crescent recorded the repatriation of more than 10,000 Iraqis, mostly Kurds and Shiites.

In Iraq today there are no "displaced persons," no uprooted communities and no long lines of war victims in search of a safe haven.

FOR the first time in almost 50 years there are also no political prisoners, no executions, no torture and no limit on freedom of expression. Iraq today is the only Muslim country where all shades of opinion - from the extremist Islamists of the Hezbollah to Stalinists, and passing by liberals, socialists, Arab nationalists and moderate Islamists - have full freedom to compete in an open market of ideas. Better still, all are now represented in the newly created Governing Assembly (Majlis al-Hukum). Iraq is also the only Muslim country where more than 100 newspapers and weeklies, representing all shades of opinion, appear without a police permit and are subjected to no censorship.

Much is made of power cuts, especially in Baghdad. But this is partly due to a 30 percent seasonal increase in demand because of air-conditioning use in temperatures that reach 115 degrees. In other cities - for example, Basra - the country's second-most populous urban center, more electricity is used than at any time under Saddam Hussein.

A stroll in the open-air book markets of the Rashid Street reveals that thousands of books, blacklisted and banned under Saddam Hussein, are now available for sale. Among the banned authors were almost all of Iraq's best writers and poets, whom many young Iraqis discover for the first time. Stalls, offering video and audiotapes for sale, are appearing in Baghdad and other major cities, again giving Iraqis access to a forbidden cultural universe.

The flower stalls along the Tigris are also making a comeback.

"Business is good," says Hashem Yassin, one florist. "In the past, we sold a lot of flowers for funerals and placement on tombs. Now we sell for weddings, birthday parties and gifts of friendship."

The free-market economy is making its first inroads into Iraq's socialistic system in a number of small ways. Hundreds of hawkers are offering a variety of imported goods and making brisk business by selling soft drinks, often bottled in Iran, and biscuits and chewing gums from Turkey.

Some teahouses, in competition to attract clients, offer satellite television as an additional attraction. Every evening people pack the teahouses to watch, and zap and discuss, what they have seen in an atmosphere of freedom unknown under Saddam. It may be hard for Westerners to understand the Iraqis' exhilaration at being able to watch television of their choice.

But this is a country where, under Saddam, people could be condemned as spies and hanged for owning a satellite dish.

Another symbol of newly won freedom is the multiplication of cellular and satellite phones. Most belong to returning exiles. But their appearance is reassuring to many Iraqis. Under Saddam, their illegal possession could carry the death penalty.

The portrayal of Baghdad as an oriental version of the Far West in Hollywood Westerns misses the point. It ignores the fact that life is creeping back to normal, that weddings, always popular in summer, are being celebrated again, often with traditional tribal ostentation. The first rock concert since the war, offered by a boys' band, has already taken place, and Iraq's National Football (soccer) Squad has resumed training under a German coach.

THERE are two Iraqs today: One as portrayed by those in America and Europe who wish to use it as a means of damaging Bush and Blair, and the other as it really exists, home to 24 million people with many hopes and aspirations and, naturally, some anxiety about the future.

"After we have aired our grievances we remember the essential point: Saddam is gone," says Mohsen Saleh, a geologist in Baghdad. "A man who is cured of cancer does not complain about a common cold."

E-mail: amirtaheri@benadorassociates.com




90 posted on 07/17/2003 1:20:43 PM PDT by finnman69
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To: Brad Cloven
Get the esteemed Senator from New Yawk, Hillry to help those po' folk...
91 posted on 07/17/2003 1:26:59 PM PDT by databoss
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To: Brad Cloven
The homeless, rediscovered, per Rush.

AIDS is now an epidemic again, too.

92 posted on 07/17/2003 1:27:45 PM PDT by TankerKC (I guess I missed your point.)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
"Yippy, Skippy, The Evil!"

(now sitting back to see who gets it :)
93 posted on 07/17/2003 1:30:25 PM PDT by TexasBarak
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To: nygop2
If you watch CSPAN, you can see the democrats scurrying like roaches when Al Sharpton turns the kitchen light on at three in the morning. Shirley CornRows-Jackson is great at this. Doesn't have to be homelessness. It can be whatever the European communist have ordered them to whine about today. It is the democrats eternal argument/logic, "how can we afford to put a man on the moon when we can't afford to...?"

It can be, get: "every ghetto kid a pair of warm $300 sport shoes," "gold wheels for every low rider owned by a poor migrant," "a college degree for every unwed mother of five or more," or "a fresh goat for every African who caught AIDS from the other goat."

If it wasn't Iraqi military costs, Dumb Shirley would find 100 other Bush budget items and make a similar argument, without missing a beat. The logic is always perfect to the idiot liberal.

94 posted on 07/17/2003 1:31:58 PM PDT by Tacis
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To: Zavien Doombringer

95 posted on 07/17/2003 1:33:09 PM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: nygop2
The lack of affordable housing in NYC is due to rent control.
96 posted on 07/17/2003 1:34:00 PM PDT by TankerKC (I guess I missed your point.)
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To: Zavien Doombringer; TheBigB
Sorry I'm late guys. This little thing called work . . .

"Work is the curse of the zotting class."

Viking princess says "Hi."

97 posted on 07/17/2003 1:35:14 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . there is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Richard Kimball
Every male FReeper will cringe involuntarily when they see that picture.

Boy, talk about getting torn a new cornshoot....
98 posted on 07/17/2003 1:35:23 PM PDT by Genesis defender (Jesus still loves you. Trust Him as Savior.)
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To: nygop2
Nine thousand families are currently homeless in New York City, the highest number on record. Indeed, homelessness is rising across the country as jobs vanish, incomes shrink and families are forced onto the streets.

Gee, the homeless are back...Rush gets it right again.

99 posted on 07/17/2003 1:38:26 PM PDT by hattend
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To: nygop2
Ewwwwwwwwwww, what's that smell???

Must be some PU from DU.

100 posted on 07/17/2003 2:03:27 PM PDT by weegee
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