Lonely Death of Man Who Found Saddam’s Anthrax (David Kelly)

Times of London ^ | July 19, 2003

[AntiGuv]

It was Harvard biochemistry scientist Don C. Wiley - an expert in anthrax, ebola, AIDS, herpes, and influenza research.

[steplock]

At least in the U.K. when a traitor is exposed, he takes the "honorable" way out.

Clinton should have been so honorable!

[AntiGuv]

Here's an intriguing webpage that just popped up as I was trying to track down something on all the microbiologists:

Did 22 SDI Researchers really ALL Commit Suicide?

[maestro]

It was Harvard biochemistry scientist Don C. Wiley - an expert in anthrax, ebola, AIDS, herpes, and influenza research.

and,..............WEST NILE VIRUS.......????????????

[virgil]

Well done. Do you know if the other 2 were called suicides too?

[arasina]

So it's the committee's fault that he is dead? I find this extremely confusing.

[AntiGuv]

Vladimir Pasechnik was ruled a stroke, five days after Don C. Wiley's disappearance in Memphis.

[AntiGuv]

Dr. Wiley's death was never conclusively resolved. The police authorities stated he may've had a dizzy spell and fallen into the Mississippi River after stopping his car on the bridge to sightsee, or whatever...

[Rudder]

A police source ruled out hanging, an overdose, a gunshot wound or natural causes in his death.

He either stabbed or bludgeoned himself to death or (better yet) threw himself upon the ground with such force that he...

[AntiGuv]

It's also worth noting that the pathologist who performed the autopsy on Dr. Pasechnik and ruled his death a stroke evidently worked for Britain's MI5 intelligence agency.

[maestro]

FYI............Anthrax......(children's medicine researchers)........'ping'.

Your# 67..........

Vladimir Pasechnik was ruled a stroke, five days after Don C. Wiley's disappearance in Memphis.

[arasina]

I think you're correct. You've certainly made this seem less confusing to me. Kelly's testimony at the committee hearing on 7/15 was quite vague and seemed to be evasive comparable to "what the meaning of is is."

[leadhead]

A police source ruled out hanging, an overdose, a gunshot wound or natural causes in his death. Well, exactly what does this leave? Did he vaporise?

Hari Kari

[virgil]

I skimmed through the SDI article. They seem to want to say it was a cover-up for defense contract fraud. I heard also that the Soviets were really worried about SDI and didn't want to see it go through. At Reykavik Gorbachev strung Reagan along for the whole conference agreeing to everything on disarmament, until the last thing, which was SDI. Reagan wouldn't abandon SDI then the whole deal fell in. Reagan was pissed.

[Shermy]

Since he's a microbiologist "Memphicide" might be appropriate too.

Sure a strange story, whatever happened.

[George W. Bush]

He was a scientist who specialized in exotic bioweapons.

Probably used a sophisticated but quick and painless means to end his life at a favorite scenic spot.

Suicides are rarely a sudden event. He's probably been borderline for many years or decades. This recent event tipped him over. Or he may have already had a diagnosis of fatal or debilitating illness. Or such a morbid fear of losing his mental prowess as old age came upon him that, after fumbling in front of the committee, he decided to end it before he faced further mental aging.

These scientists take their brains and knowledge seriously. Very very seriously. It is key to their identity, their ego, their entire self-esteem.

Or maybe, being a funloving guy, he just dropped too many tabs of LSD and smoked too much crack last night. Who knows.

[jocon307]

"A police source ruled out hanging, an overdose, a gunshot wound or natural causes in his death."

So how, exactly did he kill himself? Is this little fact in this piece somewhere, because if it is I missed it. I mean, did he cut his throat, slit his wrists, or beat himself about the head with a large rock?

I swear, this is the strangest story, it asserts he commited suicide (Tom Lantos voice please, all), doesn't say how, and then lists a bunch of causes of death that have been ruled out.

Maybe the darn BBC did kill him, and their Times cronies are just covering up for them.

[cyncooper]

Maybe. I always thought that Tony Blair was cut from the same cloth as Bill Clinton. His lap dog following of Bush has not changed that opinion.

What nonsense. Blair is not cut from the same cloth as clinton in that way.

It certainly is not to Blair's benefit that Kelly turned up dead.

I, as some others have stated, doubted suicide, as I posted on another thread, by the description of him being "upset" that his words were taken by a journalist and misquoted. Then as I wrote my post I fleshed it out that perhaps he had NOT been misquoted and he was a party to and gotten caught undermining and lying about Blair, intelligence, his country, the war effort. That might even have been a crime. Hence, the suicide theory seemed much more likely.

Too soon to say until more details are learned.

[alrea]

I am happy to see I am not the only one confused about this.

and it is the conservatives that are attacking Blair

[cyncooper]

So how, exactly did he kill himself? Is this little fact in this piece somewhere, because if it is I missed it. I mean, did he cut his throat, slit his wrists, or beat himself about the head with a large rock?

I thought of knife or suffocation, since so many other ways to die are said not to be the means, and to rule out natural causes means the cause must be kind of obvious. The article rules out hanging, but maybe a plastic bag over the head?