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The Republican spending orgy
Boston Globe ^ | 7/20/2003 | Jeff Jacoby

Posted on 07/20/2003 5:29:31 AM PDT by RJCogburn

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:10:31 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

AT THEIR national convention three years ago, Republicans pointed with pride to the GOP's record of fiscal rectitude.

''In the four decades from 1954 to 1994,'' the Republican platform declared, ''government spending increased at an average annual rate of 7.9 percent, and the public's debt increased from $224 billion to $3.4 trillion.'' Those were the profligate years, when Democrats usually controlled both houses of Congress.


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To: Hamilton2
Mr. Bush demands the Not-So-Free Drug Plan. Demands! He signs the infamous Farm Bill- I'll bet, without looking, the funds from the recent farm bill would nearly pay for a young war against a respectably sized nation!

No sir, it's about the President who acquiesces & fosters the ballooning of socialism-the attempt to buy re-election with direct purchase of votes from the Left.
81 posted on 07/20/2003 8:02:15 AM PDT by GatekeeperBookman
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To: GatekeeperBookman

Here here.

82 posted on 07/20/2003 8:03:05 AM PDT by ModernDayCato
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To: Lazamataz
If I say mean things are we still friends afterwards?

Mean things verbally thrust at me will not lessen our friendship. However, if it causes Lieberman to get elected in the next election there might be just cause for me to have to taunt you without remorse.

83 posted on 07/20/2003 8:03:17 AM PDT by sirchtruth
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To: Consort
And some people put party over ideology and country.

I hoped I wouldn't find people like that here.
84 posted on 07/20/2003 8:09:22 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: Moonman62
Instead of twisting the arms of Democrats like Reagan did

Ironically ---after Reagan did that arm-twisting, his second election was a great landslide and he had a higher proportion of the minorities' votes than Bush will ever get.

85 posted on 07/20/2003 8:10:18 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: sirchtruth
However, if it causes Lieberman to get elected in the next election

Will Lieberman spend more money on useless programs than Bush is or send more jobs out of the country than Bush is doing? Lieberman might not be completely bad as president. Gore and Hillary of course would be awful.

86 posted on 07/20/2003 8:12:11 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: HostileTerritory
Ditto!
87 posted on 07/20/2003 8:12:33 AM PDT by Ed_in_NJ
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To: Owen
The imperative to stimulate economic growth trumps the desire to shrink government,

Government spending doesn't stimulate economic growth. Jobs do.

88 posted on 07/20/2003 8:14:15 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Hamilton2
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? which liberal Presidents spent less?

If you refer to the gross amount, they all spent less than has President Bush... LBJ included.

If you refer to the percentage increase etc., according to the article, the answer to that question is the same.

If it's the fault of Congress, then Presidents serve no purpose and it doesn't matter who occupies the office.

President Bush et al need to examine their tendency to spend our money.

89 posted on 07/20/2003 8:15:17 AM PDT by dfrussell
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To: sirchtruth
...and it's not even a question of spending. It is a question of what we are going to spend on. What programs are really going to benefit people instead of the money going down the sinkhole like most democrats plans.

Okay, let me see if I've got this: You are okay with wealth-distributionist socialism, so long as it is "really going to benefit people" and not "[go] down the sinkhole".

Gotchya.

Now I understand your devotion to Dubya.

90 posted on 07/20/2003 8:17:35 AM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: Owen
Ronald Reagan signed spending bills, too. The deficit increased during his tenure, and those were relatively good economic times.

Actually during Reagan's tenure the deficits were a greater % of GDP than they are now.

I wonder when the malcontnents will post the jpegs or gifs of Reagan being tarred and feathered.

91 posted on 07/20/2003 8:17:55 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Cultural Jihad
Not-So-Flakey ideologues founded this nation-with their own brains, money & blood. Filthy, unscroupulous, mindless socialists destoy it! The publick skrools ( bastions of government propaganda & ignorance ) are an ambomination to all that is decent. Teachers have become as Union Thugs, or worse, fascist soldiers or leaches-whose votes are for sale. Our President, Mr. Bush the good & decent, bids at that auction.

What wonders what would private institutions & free, untaxed, homeschollers bring forth? We shall, thanks to the fools, thieves & hogs at the government feed trough, never know.

Dr. Thomas Sowell named a Texas Skrool of Education- UT Austin, as so dangerous as to require... well you would not understand the mere words of US Marine Pistol Instructor, child of the ghetto, Fellow at Stanford.

His aim is not yours. He thinks & acts in ways you may not comprehend.
92 posted on 07/20/2003 8:18:14 AM PDT by GatekeeperBookman
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To: Consort
You took the bait.

Spare me... the ugly truth is that President Bush and Congress have been pissing money away at rates that would not have been achievable by a Republican House and Senate and a Democratic President.

If that is what is required, so be it. I may not be able to bring myself to vote for a Democrat, but I can vote 3rd party and will do so again.

93 posted on 07/20/2003 8:19:48 AM PDT by dfrussell
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To: sirchtruth
Your comment implies that 9/11 excuses the extra spending.

The only extra spending that is justified by 9/11 is in defense and intelligence. Bush should have urged congress to shift funds from social programs to cover these new spending priorities, rather than borrowing it.

What does the 80 billion dollar farm welfare bill have to do with 9/11?

What does 15 billion dollars to fight AIDS in Africa have to do with 9/11?

As conservatives, we have ZERO credibility if we excuse a republican for the same behavior that we would condemn in a democrat.

94 posted on 07/20/2003 8:21:43 AM PDT by e_engineer
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To: FITZ
Ironically ---after Reagan did that arm-twisting,

What arm twisting? Reagan signed a tax increase in 82.

95 posted on 07/20/2003 8:22:43 AM PDT by Dane
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To: All
I imagine you steadfast fiscal priggles, whose agenda is purely fiscal in nature, want to see one of the current crop of Dem contenders be elected as this country's next President. Along with a liberal/socialist congress whose agenda would be to increase YOUR taxes for the monstosity of Universal Healthcare.

By all means blast Bush for his economic meandering, then maybe he'll change his course toward your liking and you'll get the fiscal perfection you so desire, along with the biggest, most expensive Gov't program in history because you blokes are to nearsighted!

96 posted on 07/20/2003 8:23:29 AM PDT by sirchtruth
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To: sirchtruth
I imagine you steadfast fiscal priggles, whose agenda is purely fiscal in nature, want to see one of the current crop of Dem contenders be elected as this country's next President. Along with a liberal/socialist congress whose agenda would be to increase YOUR taxes for the monstosity of Universal Healthcare.

It's called "cutting off ones nose to spite ones face" and, IMO, the perpetually malcontnent are very proficient at it.

97 posted on 07/20/2003 8:28:28 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Lazamataz
Okay, let me see if I've got this: You are okay with wealth-distributionist socialism, so long as it is "really going to benefit people" and not "[go] down the sinkhole".

Ah, NO, you don't have it!

In your case are you implying that spending for a strong military that promotes the common defense of the nation would be socialism, wealth-distribution, for let's say things like Golden toilet seats?

Those aren't mean things!

98 posted on 07/20/2003 8:29:23 AM PDT by sirchtruth
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To: sirchtruth
steadfast fiscal priggles

Jeez...took a while before the personal attacks started. Let's see...by voting mindlessly for RINOs and other assorted Republicans, what will I stop (in your opinion)?

1. Bloated government
2. Frightening increase in socialist redistribution programs
3. A more intrusive government bureaucracy

What exactly is the difference between that boogeyman and the Bush administration?

99 posted on 07/20/2003 8:29:40 AM PDT by ModernDayCato
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To: Eternal_Bear
If there is a war going on, why not drastically reduce domestic spending? I don't get it. Where is the conservatism?

Well said! If taxpayers and private businesses had to sacrifice after 9/11, then surely big government depts like Dept of Ed, Housing, and Commerce should have been abolished.

There is no justification for the farm bill, the education bill, and a homeland security dept. Bush is a big-government Republican, and I hope conservatives hold his feet to the fire in 2004.

100 posted on 07/20/2003 8:31:20 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (EEE)
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