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To: ModernDayCato
And as for your prattle about how our self-centered society won't accept 'real' conservatism, leadership is about having a vision and convincing those who oppose you to get on board.

Are you serious, are just plain living in fantasy land? There has never been a pure conservative stronghold in anything we do in this nation. Leadership like Reagan's had to be scrapped for every inch of the way. Do you really not realize that society is getting more depraved, more lost, more selfish? Are you in denial?

The Bush administration shows absolutely no leadership in advancing even the most minute conservative value.

If you don't like Bush then next time go vote for whoever you think would be better. You won't find anyone out there who is electable who will fill YOUR bill and I think that's what pisses you off the most.

I'm sorry you're so angy at Bush, but if there is nothing you can do but bitch and moan about him not being conservative enough for YOU go live somewhere else!

272 posted on 07/21/2003 3:24:43 PM PDT by sirchtruth
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To: sirchtruth
What complete, unmititgated crap. One never 'scraps' Leadership -- one only scraps courage, just as you have.

Did you ever stop to think that the fact that society is getting 'more depraved, more lost and more selfish' is the EFFECT of a leadership vacuum, not the cause of it?

You ended the debate as most Bushbots do (facing the lack of a credible argument for their appeasement of the enemy), with 'he's better than a Democrat' and 'leave the country if you don't like it,' the two greatest Bushbot arguments.

Both are red herrings. You, my friend, are the reason we are in this predicament -- you and the rest of the doormats in this party who believe that becoming more like those we loathe will somehow free us from them, which is illogical and ludicrous.

And yes, it does 'piss me off' that the Republican party is made up of RINOs, sissies and appeasers (guess which one you are), but not as much as the fact that you let it happen and continue to defend it.

As far as your last comment goes, I do have a backup plan, and it does involve my leaving the country. So I'm covered. What are YOU going to do?

277 posted on 07/21/2003 4:11:31 PM PDT by ModernDayCato
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