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Jessica Lynch Due Home After Media Hype on Heroism (reality-TV propaganda drama)
Reuters via Yahoo! ^ | 7/22/03 | Deanna Wrenn

Posted on 07/22/2003 5:50:45 AM PDT by dead

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To: logician2u
Kinda like Clinton trying to get a definition of the word "is."

BTW, Jessie, in giving her thanks, totally dissed Sheets Byrd. She thanked Gov. Studmuffin Wise and Sen. Jay Rockefeller, and then went into the troops and doctors. Never mentioned Sen. Dementia. LOL!
101 posted on 07/23/2003 6:19:20 AM PDT by samanella
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To: Miss Marple
You said what I meant to say and that it is all media hype. Sorry bout that!
102 posted on 07/23/2003 6:25:20 AM PDT by Piquaboy
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To: Poohbah
You mean the Commie-fighting Senator who exposed the enemy infiltration of our government that commie loving fellow travellers like you still deny. Anybody who fights commies is your enemy and anyone who loves them is your friend, as you've proven over and over and will continue to do so. I'll be right there to point it out every time, and in true commie form, you'll call me a nazi and smear me just like your commie compatriots smeared McCarthy.

I'd be proud to stand alongside Senator McCarthy and fight against the leftist scum like you who want our military weakened with your pinko diversity scam. You should be ashamed to stand next to the baby killers and carpet munchers of NOW, and you are.

You offer nothing to this debate, because you've already lost it. As usual, all you bring to the table are personal attacks and disruption.

103 posted on 07/23/2003 7:00:28 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe; wimpycat; hchutch; Chancellor Palpatine
You mean the Commie-fighting Senator who exposed the enemy infiltration of our government that commie loving fellow travellers like you still deny.

More slander. I don't deny that there was Communist infiltration. McCarthy did nothing to actually expose it; at best, he took credit for other people's work. He also did a lot to ensure that the entire cause of anti-Communism was discredited.

If McCarthy hadn't existed, the Left would've had to invent him.

Anybody who fights commies is your enemy and anyone who loves them is your friend, as you've proven over and over and will continue to do so.

Anyone who engages in slander and libel is your soul brother, as you've proven over and over and will continue to do so.

I'll be right there to point it out every time, and in true commie form, you'll call me a nazi and smear me just like your commie compatriots smeared McCarthy.

I didn't call you a Nazi. I merely said that you emulate Tailgunner Joe in all particulars, including a desire to coddle the men of Kampfgruppe Peiper who massacred American POWs. But you keep pretending that you were called a Nazi if it makes you <Michael Savage mode> feeeeeeeeeeeeeel </Michael Savage mode> better.

I'd be proud to stand alongside Senator McCarthy and fight against the leftist scum like you who want our military weakened with your pinko diversity scam.

I'm sure you would. Tailgunner Joe lacked any core principles; he was a pure opportunist. And you emulate that part perfectly.

He didn't ever engage in friendly fire--because his sort never has friends.

You should be ashamed to stand next to the baby killers and carpet munchers of NOW, and you are.

Well, you're definitely racing for the gutter--unopposed, I might add.

You offer nothing to this debate, because you've already lost it.

Actually, this isn't a debate. A debate presumes logical argument. You have yet to offer any, merely slanderous attacks.

As usual, all you bring to the table are personal attacks and disruption.

Dude, you actually made me laugh there.

104 posted on 07/23/2003 8:42:53 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: Poohbah
I haven't offered any argument to refute your arguments, because you haven't made any, only ad hominems.
105 posted on 07/23/2003 8:48:39 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe; hchutch; wimpycat; Chancellor Palpatine
I haven't offered any argument to refute your arguments, because you haven't made any, only ad hominems.

Joe, you have a lot of nerve to complain about ANY ad hominems.

You seem to REALLY dislike having your own material played back at you.

106 posted on 07/23/2003 8:52:27 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: Poohbah
If you have some talking points from your babykiller friends at NOW to explain why women are no different than men and should be sent to the front lines then post it, otherwise you're just blowing wind.
107 posted on 07/23/2003 8:54:41 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Poohbah
Anybody who fights commies is your enemy and anyone who loves them is your friend, as you've proven over and over and will continue to do so.

Errrrr...if anyone is making ad hominems around here, it's you, Joe. You're the one talking about "your (Poohbah's)commie loving", "baby-killing", "carpet munching" friends, and "your commie compatriots" and "your pinko diversity scam" and "commie loving fellow travellers like you".

108 posted on 07/23/2003 9:18:34 AM PDT by wimpycat (Down with Kooks and Kookery!)
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To: wimpycat
It's only an ad hominem if I attack the messenger rather than address his argument, as Pube did in this post.

Since he never made any argument in the first place, my post to him were not ad hominems, just plain old insults.

109 posted on 07/23/2003 9:33:24 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe; wimpycat; hchutch; Chancellor Palpatine
Joe, let's review this argument, because your memory seems awfully selective for some odd reason.

You said that those who didn't favor excluding women from ANY combat risk at all (which, as battlefields become more cellular and less linear and we head toward Robert Bunker's concept of "fourth-generation warfare"), eventually must translate to "exclude women from all Armed Forces billets) were:

Cowards who are afraid to face the enemy themselves.

When you start calling people "cowards," Joe, you'd BETTER be ready to demonstrate your non-cowardice with your deeds. It's easier to take your argument seriously if you walk the walk as opposed to simply talking the talk.

Also, Joe...calling those who disagree with you "cowards" is an example of personal attack.

Joe, if you don't like being on the receiving end of your own rhetorical technique, and you find it to be a "personal attack," then you might wish to reconsider your employment of said rhetorical technique.

110 posted on 07/23/2003 11:08:33 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: Poohbah
Ok, so battlefield restrictions on women designed to protect them from substantial risk of capture are "arbitrary."

Thanks, I knew I could count on you to parrot feminist nonsense.

111 posted on 07/23/2003 11:14:06 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe; hchutch; wimpycat; Chancellor Palpatine
Ok, so battlefield restrictions on women designed to protect them from substantial risk of capture are "arbitrary."

Joe...when you put quotes around something and blame someone else for saying it...you are saying that that person actually used the word or words in the quote--which, in this case, I did not. Jolly good try, though.

Thanks, I knew I could count on you to parrot feminist nonsense.

Thanks, I knew I could count on you to continue to live down to my expectations of your integrity and honor.

BTW, are you arguing that the concept of the cellular battlefield is "feminist nonsense?"

If so, you're arguing with the US Marine Corps (which has been training for the cellular battlefield for over a decade now) and, to a lesser extent, the US Army (which, dominated by track-toads, treadheads, and various sorts of McClellanites, has been slow to accept the concept--but this war has given them religion).

112 posted on 07/23/2003 11:22:27 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: jaykay
You mean that's not an accepted Iraqi medical technique for recharging Saddamist loyalty?

lol

113 posted on 07/23/2003 11:30:01 AM PDT by #3Fan
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To: Hatteras
That's it? I ask you why Shoshanna Johnson hasn't received the same attention and that's all you can say? "I don't know."

If Shoshana were the lone rescuee on that night instead of Jessica, then you complainers would be saying "Shoshana was getting all the attention because she's black...What about the white POWs?!" You guys are complainers, that's all. In any case, don't blame Jessica and put her down like you did.

But you're damn sure you know anything and everything about PFC Lynch. If we are going to play the same assumption game, I could easily suggest that you are showing signs of having a problem with ethnicity, but I'm pretty sure you are above that, right?

Yep, here it is. I'm not in charge of the media or the military. If you want Shoshana to get a lot more airtime and medals, write them.

I portayed PFC Lynch like that to remind people that she is still a kid no matter what she went through.

She's a soldier. How about the male soldiers, some of them are 19 and 20 too, are you going to put them down in the same manner. You're acting more childish than any soldier I've seen.

It won't take much pressure from the media before she starts seeing dollar signs and starts getting caught up in all the glitz and glamour of Hollywood.

So you're jealous of the movie deals and the book deals too? Yeah you're right, it's much more important that people like Streisand and Clooney hog all the entertainment dollars. A soldier that left pieces of herself on the battlefield for her country and will have medical bills out the wazoo shouldn't be allowed to make a lot of money in any way. /sarcasm

She doesn't need people such as you hoisting her up on any pedestals.

Yeah, we sure don't want to recognize the sacrifices of our soldiers. /sarcasm

The term 'Hero' means something to me. I don't throw it around willy-nilly. There are too many questions that have yet to be answered in this case. She can't even remember what happened, how did you manage to find out? I will be satisfied when she gets her memory back and clues us in on what actually happened (provided the Army allows her to get her memory back).

A hero to me is someone who puts themself in danger for others. All who fought in enemy territory are heros instead of running to Canada like the baby boom generation did in huge numbers are heros. Plus she's a hero for her humbleness and bravery she's shown in her recovery.

Go out on your local street and poll 100 people. See if you can find 5 people who know who Scott Speicher is. Better yet, turn around in your office/class, where ever you may be, and ask the person behind you. I'll wager that you'll be lucky to find one person. (5 extra points for honesty)

They don't even know who the vice president is. I was talking about those of us here on FR.

114 posted on 07/23/2003 11:44:55 AM PDT by #3Fan
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To: All
It now appears from this WSJ Opinion Journal Editorial 07/24/03 that Ms.Wrenn, whose byline was attached to trhis newstory, has been a victim of Reuters internal editorializing. I'm just about to write to Yahoo about having Reuters removed as a source for obvious reasons. There is no direct link but I'm looking.
115 posted on 07/24/2003 2:58:58 PM PDT by SES1066
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