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Jimmy Carter Sold out Iran
Iranianvoice ^ | 07/28/03 | Chuck Morse

Posted on 07/27/2003 11:51:03 PM PDT by freedom44

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1 posted on 07/27/2003 11:51:03 PM PDT by freedom44
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Before the hiijacking of a democratic revolution in 79 by the Mullahs --Iran was the birthplace of Human rights, land of the Persians, and extremely well-respected in the world spectrum. Iranians respected as an ethnically Persian people, respected internationally as tolernate, hard-working and progressive. The unfortunate, raped revolution threw power into the hands of a foreign arabic culture and belief system. Advent of the revolution only 40 percent of Americans know that Iranians aren't Arabs-- sad, very, very sad..
2 posted on 07/27/2003 11:59:31 PM PDT by freedom44
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on or off iran ping
3 posted on 07/28/2003 12:01:32 AM PDT by freedom44
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This is an excellent post. There are many, even on the right, that have bought into the notion that because the Shah did not preside over a "democracy" that his removal was justified anyway, and that we were merely unfortunate to wind up with the Ayatollah.

Fact is, the Shah was modernizing Iraq, trying to drag it out of the 3rd century. His means were, at times, a little brutal by Western standards, but not so by Middle Eastern standards.

Most important, the Shah and Iran were allies of the US. This notion that we need to spread democracy - a notion started by Woodrow Wilson and carried through even to the present administration - is dangerous, and will only build resentment and put Americans in harm's way.

This action by Carter, coupled with his giveaway of the Panama Canal, makes him by far the worst President in American history. Even worse than the Clintons.

4 posted on 07/28/2003 12:01:48 AM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: freedom44; RaceBannon
Thank You, Great Work!
I will help you in this way
May God bless you because you are helping others know the truth!I will send you some more stuffs and info soon.
5 posted on 07/28/2003 12:02:55 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (If God brings you to it, He will bring you through it.)
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Shah was modernizing Iran you mean.

Please don't mix up Iran and Arabic countries like Iraq, it's very discouraging..
6 posted on 07/28/2003 12:04:31 AM PDT by freedom44
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"Jimmy Carter Sold out Iran."

Hell! He sold out America. Carter is a Castro loving solcialist suck up who never met a dictator he didn't like. Carter is a disgrace to this country.

7 posted on 07/28/2003 12:05:23 AM PDT by blackbart.223
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-Recalling the Shah of Iran--
8 posted on 07/28/2003 12:08:06 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old keyboard cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the sunset...)
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To: freedom44
Thank you for this post. Not very many people realize that when Jimma stabbed the Shah in the back he set in motion the sunami of islamist terror which resulted in 9-11. This should be shouted from the rooftops.
9 posted on 07/28/2003 12:08:44 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This tagline has been suspended or banned.)
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To: freedom44
I did mean Iran of course, thank you for the comeuppance. That was a careless error on my part. I apologize.
10 posted on 07/28/2003 12:09:40 AM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: freedom44
>>only 40 percent of Americans know that Iranians aren't Arabs<<

Very few know what noble, intelligent people the Persians are.
11 posted on 07/28/2003 12:10:26 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This tagline has been suspended or banned.)
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To: blackbart.223
Read that socialist. I stuck in one too many L's.
12 posted on 07/28/2003 12:10:43 AM PDT by blackbart.223
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13 posted on 07/28/2003 12:11:54 AM PDT by freedom44
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To: Jeff Chandler

nation's morale goes up and down. today, Iran's morale is very much on the up. The downs after the turmoil of the 1950's and early 1960's seem to be many more years in the past than they in fact are. The self-assurance of the place shows in many small ways. "The last man on earth is more important than the first man on the moon," Iran's prime minister, Amir Abbas Hoveyda, told the Washington National Press club when asked what he thought of Frank Borman and company flying round the moon. To such a house-proud audience it was the kind of risque remark which no Iranian would have thought of venturing a few years ago. The Shah himself does not hide his satisfaction ; he likes to point out, for instance, that doubts expressed in The Economist four years ago about the dangers to Iran's balance of payments have not materialised. "In the short space of six years," wrote the American journalist Alfred Friendly, formerly a vigorous critic of the Shah, in the Washington Post last year, "the Shah has made his promises good, his opposition disappear and his detractors look silly. Iran has its problems, to be sure, deep, difficult and dangerous. But they are problems which develop from success." Most Iranians positively relish the discomfort of a western observer eating humble pie. Like the resurgent Japanese, though in a more humorous way, Iran's intelligentsia feels vindicated at last by its success. In the Middle East only Israel and Lebanon have an educated class to match Iran's. In Iran this class has for generations either been idle or up to its ears in action fighting. Or in many cases its nembers have disappeared abroad in forced or voluntary exile. There was no wider or more vocal network of disgruntled emigres than the "exile" Iranians. Four or five years ago some of these began to trickle back. They more than rickle back today, and, talent being scarce in the developing world, they are run off their feet when they arrive. Ministers and several people immediately below ministerial rank have formerly been the inside of Persian jails, a number of them as members of the banned Tudeh (communist) party. Other ex-members of this party are now captains of Iran's burgeoning private industries. In a recent paper Mr. Shaul Bakhash, a most thoughtful Iranian critic, points out that this conversion has taken place partly because the price of opposition (was made) increasingly steep." However, says Bakhash: "an extensive programme of government sponsored reform --at the heart of which lies land reform -- made the government far more acceptable than previously to the younger generation. Men who in the 1950's absolutely refused to be identified with the administration, suffer no pangs of conscience in being part of it today. . . The process of change has infused the whole government machinery with an energy and elan, a self confidence in problem-solving that it has not witnessed in years." Using modern men in government began to work only under the late Hassan Ali Mansur, member of an old family whose brief as prime minister in 1963 seems to have been to form a party from the young and the bright. One man Mansur took into government from the national oil company was Amir Abbas Hoveyda, seen at left. When Mansur was assassinated in December, 1965, Hoveyda became caretaker prime minister. Five years later he is still prime minister. Success and more particularly, a desire for calm after so many years of upheaval have contributed to his unprecedented survival. Hoveyda has turned out to be good at the flim-flam of politics, good at diatribes in the Majlis, good at kissing babies. He exhibits almost always a pugnacious bonhomie. But when his political number comes up, as it will, his real achievement will be the train of brainy young men whom he has introduced to the Shah and who are now part of the administration. Several of the youngest Hoveyda men have gone to bigger things outside the central govrnment -- rnayor of Teheran, governor of the ports, big private enterprise jobs. The ablest being perhaps, Hushang Ansary, Hoveyda found making expatriate millions in Japan. In quick succession Ansary became ambassador to Pakistan, minister of Information, anibassador to Washington, and now minister of the Economy. Many of the brightest younger members of government have come back from abroad simply because they have heard what is going on in Iran, and will stay there, regardless of politics, so long as they can find the right people to work for. Both the World Bank and the IMF have been stripped of their cadre of Persians in order to people the economic branches of Iran's government. One of these young men advises Ansary. Another recently returned to be deputy Governor of Iran's Central Bank. The three men in direct line of command under the chief of the important Plan Organisation are all on extended leave of absence from the IMF and World Bank, and so is the dean of the new faculty of economics at the University of Teheran. The problem in an economy doubling inside a decade is that there are not enough men of talent to go round. Moreover, the government has to cornpete on unequal terms with the private sector. For every young technocrat in government several now join business. Some of them have already become millionaires. More substantial in a new class of urban rich, and haute bourgeoisie of mounting size, are such traders turned industrialists as the Khayyamis and the Akhavans (motor cars), brothers like the Reza'is (steel and copper), old yet entirely professional families like the Kouros's rnd the numerous Farmanfarmaians. The foreign ministry's recruiting problems, once the easiest, are now enormous. In the economic ministries and in the prime minister's office a host of young people will go when their booses go, not out of political pique, but because most of them, having done their stint in government, now understandably covet the rewards of the private sector. So the government has doubled its effort, originally undertaken for political reasons, to persuade Iran's 4o,ooo or more students working abroad to return as soon as their degrees are won. Many of these are almost permanent students, Trofimovs from the Cherry Orchard, and the pick of this crop has been taken already. Left behind is a hard core of opposition at which the government can only nibble, notably the well organised and well sustained but steadily decreasing group in west Germany which dogs the Shah when he travels through northern Europe, peppering him with absurdly rnis- informed propaganda. Missions led by Ministers and other luminaries constantly seek out Persian students in Europe and America. When abroad the Shah gives speeches and audiences urging them to return. Pardons and jobs are shelled out to,those who need them. Prodigals who return spread the word to the friends they have left abroad.
14 posted on 07/28/2003 12:15:57 AM PDT by freedom44
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American leaders were also supporting Khomeini. After the Pravda endorsement, Ramsey Clark, who served as Attorney General under President Lyndon B. Johnson, held a press conference where he reported on a trip to Iran and a Paris visit with Khomeini. He urged the US government to take no action to help the Shah so that Iran "could determine it's own fate." Clark played a behind the scenes role influencing members of Congress to not get involved in the crisis.

Ramsey Clark name sure seems to pop up alot these days.

15 posted on 07/28/2003 12:17:28 AM PDT by Mo1 (Please help Free Republic and Donate Now !!!)
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All Middle-East belonged to the Persian Empire before the Arabic Inavsion on Iran.
Around 1400 years ago, Arabian Tribes and New Muslims attacked the Zoroasterian Iran.
These Arabs, destroyed libraries, burnt books, raped women, killed children and destroyed the Ancient Persia in name of Islam and Allah.
They took Iranian women as wives and slaves.
Persians have opposed them since then and they are still in fight with the new representative of those tribes and primitive Arabs.
Jimmy Carter must be responsible of what he has done to Iran and its people.
We hope that others learn their lesson from History.
16 posted on 07/28/2003 12:18:19 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (If God brings you to it, He will bring you through it.)
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Ramsey Clark is every bit the traitor Carter is, and perhaps more dangerous because he is behind the scenes.
17 posted on 07/28/2003 12:22:36 AM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: freedom44
This article should be in a special category for those who have been in a coma for twenty five years or who were born yesterday....no offense to the young who may not be familar with this not so recent history.
18 posted on 07/28/2003 12:23:23 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: freedom44
Thank you for your post.

I believe Jimmy Carter will NEVER realize in his lifetime what a crumby president he was. Mr. Carter never was, nor ever will be a statesman of high standing.

My personal experience in the '80's was being pregnant, with a baby arriving 2 months early, in a gas line on an odd day when our license plate indicated our day for getting gas for our car was on an even day. 57 hours of labor and a long gas line. I'll never forget Carter.

19 posted on 07/28/2003 12:25:51 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cacophonous
Ramsey Clark is every bit the traitor Carter is, and perhaps more dangerous because he is behind the scenes.

Thanks to FR, I have been learning many things about Clark that I once didn't know .. and I agree he is very dangerous

20 posted on 07/28/2003 12:26:36 AM PDT by Mo1 (Please help Free Republic and Donate Now !!!)
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