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CIA Adviser Says Iraq Weapons Clues Found
Austin American-Statesman ^ | AP-NY-08-01-03 0543EDT | AP

Posted on 08/01/2003 3:32:39 AM PDT by yonif

WASHINGTON (AP)--U.S. agents have reportedly found some evidence of a weapons program in Iraq, but the CIA refused to discuss any details with lawmakers.

Democrats, critical of the searches that have thus far proved to be fruitless, questioned President Bush's reasons for ordering the U.S.-led invasion.

``There was no imminent danger, and we should never have gone to war,'' said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass.

CIA adviser David Kay, who is serving as a special adviser for the weapons search, told lawmakers on Thursday that inspectors have found physical evidence of Iraqi activity on weapons of mass destruction. Without offering any detail, he said investigators had made a ``tactical and strategic decision'' to focus on biological rather than on chemical or nuclear programs.

``Those are the areas that we're principally talking about progress,'' he said.

The Senate Intelligence Committee's top Democrat, Sen. Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia, expressed concern that the searches are being diverted away from finding actual weapons.

``Signs of a weapons program are very different than the stockpiles of biological and chemical weapons that were a certainty before the war,'' Rockefeller said. ``We did not go to war to disrupt Saddam's weapons program, we went to disarm him.''

``It's looking more and more like a case of mass deception,'' Kennedy said after Kay briefed the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Those concerns surfaced as the Bush administration approved payment of $30 million to the informant who helped troops find Saddam Hussein's two sons, the largest reward ever made under a U.S. program.

``It's actually for services rendered,'' State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said. ``It's a lump sum payment of $30 million.''

The informant's tip led to the death of Odai and Qusai Hussein in a firefight July 22 in a villa in Mosul in northern Iraq. For his protection the tipster was not identified by the government.

Secretary of State Colin Powell gave final approval to the award of $15 million each for the sons.

Boucher said the informant had provided the critical piece of information that led to the brothers and ``took a risk in what is a very important development.''

The reward offered for Saddam is $25 million, and Boucher urged anyone who knows where he is to turn him in.

Kay told reporters after talking in secret to the Senate Armed Services Committee that there was a ``truly amazing'' deception program to throw U.N. weapons inspectors off the trail.

``We have people who participated in deceiving U.N. inspectors now telling us how they did it,'' he said.

The U.S. Army's 4th Infantry Division is hunting for Saddam with tanks, satellites and flying robots. The soldiers also are using more traditional, low-tech search methods. Patrolling soldiers and interpreters are collecting trips from residents.

Since the death of the sons there has been a surge of tips.

The CIA, meanwhile, has determined a recent audio message purportedly from Saddam--in which he refers to the death of his sons--is most likely authentic, according to a CIA official.

The tape was played Tuesday on the Al-Arabiya satellite channel, which broadcasts across the Middle East, including Iraq.

A new audiotape attributed to Saddam aired Friday on the Qatar-based Al-Jazeera satellite television station and urged his supporters to continue the uprising against U.S. forces.

It was not possible to immediately authenticate the tape.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cia; davidkay; demorats; evidence; iraq; wmd
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``There was no imminent danger, and we should never have gone to war,'' said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass.

Was there "immediate danger" from Afghanistan on Sept. 10 2001? Of course not, but look what happened the next day. You are an idiot just like the rest of your party members who adhere to your stupid statement. I can't wait when the evidence will come out and your political life, like the rest of those who are quick to spew ignorant comments like that in Congress, goes down the drain.

1 posted on 08/01/2003 3:32:40 AM PDT by yonif
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To: yonif
More "deeply saddened" for Little Tommy!
2 posted on 08/01/2003 3:41:23 AM PDT by Ed_in_NJ
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To: yonif
The broader question, should Saddam Hussein be deposed for his human rights violations alone, is never addressed. It is perfectly all right for the NATO alliance, and the UN, to intervene in the Balkans, when there was ZERO chance of imminent danger to the US (apparently the criteria by which those lonely voices of Democrat "moderation" judge the reasons for military response), based on nothing more than the human rights violations alleged, before they were proven. As it turned out, the human rights violations were greatly exaggerated, but did that mean that intervention was not justified?

In a parallel reasoning, the fear that Hussein had WMDs ready or nearly ready was very real, given the extent of our intelligence and prior behavior by the Ba'athist regime. Actual discoveries, so far, seem to indicate this fear was perhaps somewhat exaggerated (a situation which may be quite different when a full disclosure is accomplished), but the human rights violations were so much greater than ANYTHING found in the Balkans, there is no basis for comparison.
3 posted on 08/01/2003 3:53:57 AM PDT by alloysteel
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I would also put in the issue of terrorism in that Saddam harbored terrorists and exported terrorism against many countries in the world, through training camps and money.
4 posted on 08/01/2003 4:09:21 AM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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``There was no imminent danger, and we should never have gone to war,'' said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass.

Someone should ask him to define imminent.

I also notice that the Dems are starting to harp on the weapons vs. programs angle. Someone should ask them, if there's an intact program, how long to these idiots think it takes to make/grow more WMD? 9-11 taught these people nothing. The deaths and injuries, the harm to our country, our economy, taught them nothing. And they actually think that there's a hope in Hades they'll ever be trusted with the nation's security ever again? In their dreams and our nightmares.

5 posted on 08/01/2003 4:12:15 AM PDT by mewzilla
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The Rats just never learn. They can spin it any way they wish, most people in our country and in Iraq are glad we did what we did. The truth will out and the Rats will look like the tyranical supporters they are.
6 posted on 08/01/2003 4:15:05 AM PDT by Peach
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I wonder if on this issue they are completely wrong, will people actually stop voting for them....
7 posted on 08/01/2003 4:17:52 AM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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Even the soccer moms seem to understand just who is trying to protect the country and "the children" from future horrific terrorist events.
8 posted on 08/01/2003 4:19:00 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach
I'm so...jeez, I am so darned mad this morning. Some conservatives have always been conservatives. I was a real left-winger until my epiphany in 1998. But I've always considered myself an American first. To my mind what the Dems are doing, if not rising to the level of treason, is certainly offering aid and comfort to the enemy. These people are despicable. And if morality won't sway them, self-interest should. When they lost me, they lost a true believer. And I'm not the only recovering Dem I know who's ready to pack them all off to Heck.
9 posted on 08/01/2003 4:25:58 AM PDT by mewzilla
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I often try to imagine the Democrats acting this was during WWII, especially in the immediate aftermath of Pearl Harbor. It would be unimaginable prior to 9/11, but they've now shown me just what they are and it's so power hungry they are willing to sacrifice their country to win.

The Rats are the same people who don't want us to racially profile for Muslim extremists at airports, etc., and yet say that PResident Bush isn't doing enough in the fight against terror. If one cannot even profile (which the Israelis do with great success), then we must assume they aren't really serious about national security.

10 posted on 08/01/2003 4:32:59 AM PDT by Peach
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And without national security what kind of a country do these fools think they'd be left to govern?
11 posted on 08/01/2003 4:41:06 AM PDT by mewzilla
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Good point. A domestic program is fine only so long as there is a strong country to support the domestic programs.
12 posted on 08/01/2003 4:51:36 AM PDT by Peach
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As far as I'm concerned national security IS a domestic program.
13 posted on 08/01/2003 4:52:28 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla
First, glad you came over to our side. That takes real intellectual honesty. Second, I agree, I learned in the aftermath to 9-11 that there are plenty of everyday Liberals out there who really do care about the US, but who have made such an emotional, almost religious, investment in being a Democrat that they can not switch. Most of the prominent elected Dems, though, are straight out of "Treason." What you are saying I think is pretty much Ann Coulter's point.
14 posted on 08/01/2003 4:52:40 AM PDT by speedy
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To: speedy
Well, what can I say? I took my brain out of neutral. But it didn't require intellectual honest as much as it did a love for my country.
15 posted on 08/01/2003 4:54:32 AM PDT by mewzilla
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Okay, even a better reason. I have to believe there are tens of millions of others out there who are in the same position.
16 posted on 08/01/2003 5:02:44 AM PDT by speedy
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To: yonif
I wonder if on this issue they are completely wrong, will people actually stop voting for them....

I doubt it! Look at how the Blacks have gotten screwed by deteriorating schools, crappy teachers, a wasteful welfare mentality, a cult of victimization, and a promise that affirmative action would solve all of their problems. After fifty years of this type of treatment by the liberals, they now vote about 95% democratic.

17 posted on 08/01/2003 5:08:16 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome.)
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Someone should ask him to define imminent.

It means right away, like when the young girl you are with is drowning and you have only a few minutes to save her. Of course, if you just let her drown and then lie about the whole affair, the dems will love you and you can be their favorite senator for the next forty or fifty years.

18 posted on 08/01/2003 5:11:29 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome.)
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The informant's tip led to the death of Odai and Qusai Hussein in a firefight July 22 in a villa in Mosul in northern Iraq.

Two innocent victims of tips. What a waste of human life. It is clear from this that we need to control tips somehow. Especially the high capacity assault tips. We need tip control laws right NOW! For justice, for peace!

19 posted on 08/01/2003 5:19:14 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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And I'm not the only recovering Dem I know who's ready to pack them all off to Heck.

No, you're not. Their sickening, aren't they? It doesn't matter what is found or done. There is no pleasing them. They are so hell-bent on putting down President Bush and other Republicans, they don't care if they take the rest of us down, too.
They are lying, wishy-washy, fit-throwing "if I don't get my way" commie-acting brats who will argue for the sake of arguing and only worry about how they look and sound to other commie-acting brats.

20 posted on 08/01/2003 5:23:52 AM PDT by scan58
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