[ElusiveSpondulix]

Cheers to all. It's that time of the month to share again this transmission from my correspondent. It's a shame that there isn't some kind easy litmus test for truth. However, you all must make of this what you will.

[Howlin]

For some reason I hardly believe, if it WAS leaked, that Debka would be the first to get it.

[End Times Sentinel]

 

Debka...

 

Owl_Eagle

”Unleash the Hogs of Peace.”
P.J. O'Rourke Parliament of Whores

[Monty22]

Well, this vindicates me and anyone else who said 'nuke mecca'. And medina, and Riyadh..

We should NOW to get back at these BASTARDS

[GOP_1900AD]

I find the 1991 date particularly remarkable. That is when "the Soviet Union fell." Very interesting that this rash of double agency started then, assuming this is true. If this is true, the 28 pages if taken at face value ought to open additional avenues of inquiry into the very essence of our assumptions and understanding which underly the current orthodoxy that "the West won the Cold War."

[Uncle Miltie]

"the Saudis consistently deny American investigators access to suspects."

Wouldn't want any suspects to accidentally admit they are funded and hosted by the Princes....

[Uncle Miltie]

"Saudi funds continue to flow to al Qaeda and other terrorist groups in Europe and the Middle East"

Bump for truth.

[Uncle Miltie]

"the financing for at least two of the September 11 suicide hijackers came from two principal sources: ruling circles in Riyadh and close allies of Washington working out of the Saudi embassy in the heart of Foggy Bottom."

[Uncle Miltie]

"Saudi intelligence created, funded and armed the Taliban army of Afghanistan."

[quidnunc]

CAVEAT LECTOR [Rick Brookhiser]
Debka.com, a site that Jonah has mentioned before, predicts sandstorms and snowstorms in Iraq; says the allies didn't bring enough troops; foresees a fierce fight for Baghdad. Maybe they are right — in my experience, they are right about half the time — but a word on them is in order.

Debka is the name of an Israeli folk dance. The site comes from Israel, and seems to run the leavings of Israeli intelligence. Some of their items are stuff that was new yesterday, and hence, though true, is no longer vital, and so gets passed on to Debka. Some of it is stuff that an intelligence officer said, "Why are you putting this crap on my desk? Give it to Debka!"

There is also a steady tone of marginally anti-American doomsaying. In the big picture, Debka supports the United States, thought 9/11 was terrorism, etc., etc. But in virtually every specific case, it takes the view that Americans are dumb cattle who don't know what they're doing. I assume this attitude is compounded from 1) the desire for sensationalist copy 2) Israeli arrogance — more common before the intafadas than now, but still sometimes surfacing: only we understand the region, only we know how to fight, and so forth and so on.

Posted at 09:47 PM

('The Corner' in National Review, March 23, 2003)
http://www.nationalreview.com/thecorner/corner.asp

This latest Debka 'exclusive' doesn't have the ring of truth to it.

I seriously doubt that a Republican-controlled committee would issue a report criticasl of Bush, especially in the run-up to an election year.

[Former Proud Canadian]

Interesting read.

[FairOpinion]

"The president could not prevent the congressional committee sending out unexpurgated copies to a long list of recipients in and outside America. Several dozen full texts have reached a number of European and Middle Eastern capitals. "

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If this is true, it's high time we start trying those for treason, who release vital national security information.

My other comment is that,"Where were all the Republicans on the committee?!" to allow the Democrats to put in accusations, slander and highly sensitive information.

[truth_seeker]

I credit the Bush administration with yet ANOTHER piece of brilliant political manipulation (of his opponents).

The result of the 28 page blackouts is MORE congressional investigations, of the ROLE of Saudi Arabia, in funding and supporting terrorism.

Bush is using Congress to "out" Saudi Arabia. If it is later necessary to whack SA, it can be put forth as necessary by informaion investigated by Congress.

Bush will let the dems point toward those dastardly Saudis (and I believe them to be the worst).

Graham is NOT going anywhere, being a 2nd tier candidate. But the eventual dem candidate, could very well use a claim that Bush went soft on SA or has family ties with SA.

Later, when Bush whacks SA it will fit into a carefully orchestrated plot.

The visiting SA prince the other day, left KNOWING and revealing in his tone, that he knew he had been had.

[FairOpinion]

"A source who has read the entire report described those few pages as an incendiary concoction of highly sensitive intelligence materials relating to war, foreign relations, domestic politics and even the President’s campaign for reelection in 2004. Its connotations are potentially detrimental to the president and even more so to America’s world standing amid its preoccupations with two wars."

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Of course the Democrats couldn't care less, if they damage the US, just so they can somehow get Bush. They are not fit to hold ANY national office, much less the presidency.

[mhking]

"It's DEBKA-man!

Just damn.

If you want on the new list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

[habs4ever]

Regardless of the veracity of this story, no one can say that the Saudis are smart.They have failed, with remarkable ineptness, to grasp how doomed their present State truly is since 9/11, and they still act like sheiks in the souk.Their sloth and decadence has made them...kaput.

[b4its2late]

The Ex Congressman John Kasich said on Hannity & Colmes the other day that it would be posted on the internet in a couple of days..... Guess he was right.

[DeepInEnemyTerritory]

bump for later

[CyberAnt]

I rarely take the time to read their stuff - none of it ever pans out.

One thing I did notice while scanning though it - none of the dates occured during Bush's term in office - THE DEMS WILL NOT BE HAPPY ABOUT THAT - THEY WERE SO HOPING TO HAVE SOME SORT OF "SMOKING GUN" TO USE AGAINST BUSH!!

[beckett]

Horsehockey. The kids at Debka must have such fun putting this stuff together. They have a real knack for slipping alarmist language into everything they do. Too bad their reliability and accuracy rate is somewhere down around 10%.

[Mr. Jeeves]

They manufactured a crisis to give themselves a chance to say loud and clear for all to hear that the allegations in the unpunished section were lies. It was important for the royal house to demonstrate to Saudi religious and tribal leaders, as well as to al Qaeda supporters at home - overt and clandestine – that Riyadh will brook no accusations such as are contained in the report and is doing everything in its power to fend them off.

This might even be true. It's like when cops, frustrated by a Mafia figure's refusal to talk, make a big show of escorting him to the front of the police station wearing big smiles, patting him on the back, and shaking his hand - a performance for the benefit of the Mafia informants who are in the neighborhood and watching.

By classifying material that might in fact be harmless, Bush is putting the Saudi government's Al Qaeda collaborators in the very diffcult spot of having to explain to bin Laden and the boys just what they might have told the US government about their operations.