Onward Christian soldiers (Janissaries. Christian boys were forced to fight for Islam)

world net daily ^ | SATURDAYMAY 262001 | Anthony C. LoBaido

[Thorondir]

You are asking him to recognize and repeat a truth that goes against his trojan-horse agenda. The Koran, on the other hand, tells him he can lie to deceive the infidels.

Sorry, my friend. The Koran will win this battle of the black and twisted heart.

Some defend iSLAM because they are nothing more than quavering cowards.
Some defend iSLAM because they think it makes them sound superior.
Some defend iSLAM because they think their moral relativism will protect them.
Some defend iSLAM because they think appeasement will protect them.
Some defend iSLAM because they are ignorant of iSLAM’s consistent bloody swath through human history.
Some defend iSLAM because they bought the lies of hired American PR firms.
Some defend iSLAM because they are greased with Saudi oil money.
Some defend iSLAM because they like its fight against Christianity.
Some defend iSLAM because they like its fight against the Jews.
Some defend iSLAM because they like its fight against that other guy’s religion.
Some defend iSLAM because they are sleeper elements of a fifth column in our country.
Some defend iSLAM because it is their faith and they will be murdered by their ‘brothers’ if they leave.
Some defend iSLAM because they are misogynists and the cult gives them what they want.
Some defend iSLAM because they are as primitive as it is.
Some defend iSLAM because they like its fight against America (because their turd-world nations are so far beneath America).
Some defend iSLAM because it’s the popular thing to do.
I swear, some of them would defend the Aztec cannibals or the Thuggee cult if those religions of peace were alive today!

At any rate, iSLAM intends to be the death of America and freedom and every other religion on the planet.

None survive when freedom fails;
Good men rot in filthy jails,
While those who cried “Appease! Appease!”
Are hanged by those they tried to please.

Human civilization had better wake up soon and get as serious about its survival as the seventh-century savages of Islam are about our annihilation!
SLEEPING AMERICANS ARE EASIER TO KILL.
Do not be lulled to sleep by the Religion of Peace defenders.

Click here and never forget the face of Islam and what it wants for you infidels.

[dennisw]

Thanks for the ping. You know much more than I do about the murderous track record of Islam in the Balkans.

[dennisw]

loved the article, great read! but what does this have to do with crime/corruption?.................

My mistake. I post stuff real fast.

[Publius6961]

What a hateful post!
Americans continue dozing and wondering why some of us have such a strong antipathy towards Islam.

Ignorance is bliss, and the terminally ignorant just hate posts like this one.
What's the deal?

History has been there for anyone with a brain and the intellectual curiosity to dig.
Force feeding them reality just makes them more hostile.
Can't we all just get along?

[Publius6961]

Even a broken clock is correct twice a day.
Everyone knows that slavery was a part of every civilization.

To say otherwise is... well, plain ignorance.
Let us rejoice that we agree on something finally.
You dwell on the fact that someone made a mistake representing history.

I'll rejoice in the fact that the West eliminated its reliance on slavery centuries ago, while Islam shows no signs of of even acknowleging that the practice is still central to its culture.

[Publius6961]

Does that mean the Greeks and Romans were Marxists?

You know, it gets tiresome and transparent after a while to dwell on what Christians and Muslims did a thousand years ago.
I don't care if the Greeks and Romans were marxists.

I do care that the scummiest, most barbarous, primitive blood soaked killers today in my lifetime, are almost exclusively muslim sandmagots.

Can we focus on that?
Why is that?

[Publius6961]

To be realistic I'll bet that A Christian Boy impressed into the Janissaries had a better chance of a good life than a farmer impressed into the army of Edward I.

I see that Muawiyah has succeeded in deflecting the discussion from the Muslim atrocities of today to a discussion of history.
At the risk of allowing him to continue doing so, I must say that the statement may be correct but truly puzzling.
In contemporary terms, if the statement has any inherent value, why did this not apply also to South Africa and Rhodesia?

Inquiring minds, etc.

[muawiyah]

Your friendly, neighborhood abortionist is the most barbarous and bloodthirsty person known to mankind in all of history.

Now, back to the Greeks and Romans and whether or not they had slaves ~ they did!

[muawiyah]

Centuries ago?

I recently got a letter from an elderly cousin who mentioned her father-in-law who had been a prisoner at Andersonville.

It's still news!

[muawiyah]

Thuggee is alive and well and sitting on the Supreme Court.

[muawiyah]

A rose is a rose no matter what name......

If slaves were called Helots in Sparta, that really doesn't change the nature of the institution.

I know there are those who argue that once any slaves became "attached to the land" their lot was improved, but that was more likely a consequence of a general improvement in the local economy at the time.

Abortion and slavery have a lot in common, and one of those things is the attempt to create euphemisms to hide the fact that the victims have lost all civil liberties ordinarily accorded free men and women.

[muawiyah]

Irrespective of what evil you might find Moslems doing, that does not provide an excuse for non-Moslems to do that or other evil.

I think your mother might have told you that. Apparantly it didn't click, eh?!

[Destro]

Your ignorance shows--words have meanings. Helots were serfs not slaves.

[Mark17]

Human civilization had better wake up soon and get as serious about its survival as the seventh-century savages are about our annihilation!

Yes they are, and Mr. Netanyahu was right. These slime sucking savages will be setting off nucs over here, if they can. How many of us thought they would fly airplanes into the WTC and Pentagon? Not many I suspect, so why does anyone doubt, that, given the wherewithal to do so, they would set of atomic bombs on American soil? They would do it, and I hope we can stop them before they do.

[mark502inf]

a rose may be a rose, but the system of helotage in Sparta was not slavery. Many Greeks had personally owned slaves, whom they called slaves. However, the helots were Messenian Greeks--fellow Greeks conquered by the Spartans. They lived in their own villages and did their own farming and producing of goods. They lived in fear of the Spartans, who required tributes of as much as 50% of what the Helots produced. Failure to produce invoked sudden and violent Spartan action. While the soldiers of other Greek city-states were part-timers who were usually also farmers, the Spartans lived off the helots and could thus devote their energies full-time to drill and training for war--thus the famed Spartan proficiency as warriors.

[Thorondir]

Out of the 24 bloody conflicts raging in the world today, 22 are because your bloody moon-worshipers in filthy nightshirts cannot act like civilized human beings and get along with their neighbors. iSLAM is a disease. That murderous satanic death cult has got to be wiped out, once and for all. Only a primitive sub-human would embrace it.

[muawiyah]

When the Iriquois were under the tutelage of more powerful tribes (prior to the 14th century), they thought of the exact same system as "slavery". (That's just to let you know I am not alone in this thought).

The very same ancient Greeks we are both referring to felt that the exact same system as applied by the Celtic speaking folks in Bulgaria to the German speaking folks there was, in fact, "slavery".

Look, admit it, the Greeks were simply trying to whitewash this business of holding fellow Greeks as slaves. It's time to put an end to their hypocrisy and call it what was.

[muawiyah]

Gee, I sure do hope none of my gumbahs in Dubai or Kuwait are involved in any of those 24 conflicts, particularly on "the other side", eh?!

(NOTE TO AUDIENCE: Let's see if I can keep this guy sucked into believing I am some sort of 8th Century Moslem conqueror.)

[mark502inf]

the Greeks were simply trying to whitewash this business of holding fellow Greeks as slaves.

Not at all. It never occurred to them to "whitewash" slavery--they took slavery for granted, to include holding fellow Greeks as personally owned slaves working in their household or farms.

If you want to adopt an expansive definition of slavery and categorize the status of the Greeks in the conquered towns & villages of the Messenians as slaves--fine. But they were in a very different category of slavery from the personally owned slaves of the Greeks.