PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION BAN - THE BETRAYAL IS NOW COMPLETE [BARF ALERT - ANTI-GOP PROPAGANDA]

NewsWithViews.com ^ | May 9, 2003 | By David Brownlow

[F.J. Mitchell]

Funny how fast the ghoul enablers in Congress passed effective anti-partial birth abortion bills, as long as they had a ghoul enabling President sworn to veto the bill. Funny how long it takes these Ghoul enablers to pass even a watered down worthless so called ban against partial birth abortion, when we have a President sworn to sign an anti-baby murder bill.

Sonovabitches, one and all!!!!!!!!

[Zack Nguyen]

Thanks!

[William Wallace]

Sorry to be so long, but I just thought of this, too. If a belly button does slip out, the abortioninst now has to (horror of horrors) deliver the baby. Now you have a live, premature, critical care baby. That means all abortion centers will have to have the means to resusitate those babies or face mega malpractice awards from disabled kids. Not to mention that their malpractice insurance is going to go through the roof. Will they have to have pediatric intensivists on call? Incubators? Respirators? PICU trained nurses? Hey, I think I've stumbled on something great here!

Precisely.

[Yeti]

What abortionist can be sure of the loyalty of their entire staff when one belly button can send you to jail?

If he slips and the baby comes most of the way out, it won't be "deliberate and intentional."

Oh, well. The sense of the Yeti is that it doesn't matter too much what I say here.

Dubya, I scare myself when I wax prophetic. But I guess it's better to laugh than cry in situations like this.

[Jim Robinson]

Yes, I read it. And I don't buy your twisted logic. And there's no way in hell that you could convince me that Rick Satorum and the pro-life Republicans are betraying us. That's pure GOP-hating slander. Kill the baby through partial birth abortion and you go to jail.

[Jim Robinson]

Huh? I don't believe you are falling for this crap.

[Kuksool]

What a shamelss piece of false advertising.

[Yeti]

Yes, I read it. And I don't buy your twisted logic. ... That's pure GOP-hating slander.

Okay. I can tell you are upset about this. I guess I fit the profile of a GOP-hater nowadays so my words won't do any good here, anyway.

[epow]

Flailing arms? Please don't.

No flailing arms here, just stone cold rage at those treacherous vermin who signed onto that worthless bill and it's outrageous "sense of the Senate" clause. I meant what I wrote, and I am way beyond outraged. Read this again:

b) SENSE OF THE SENATE- It is the sense of the Senate that-- (1) the decision of the Supreme Court in Roe v. Wade (410 U.S. 113 (1973)) was appropriate and secures an important constitutional right; and (2) such decision should not be overturned. Passed the Senate March 13, 2003

That clause tacked onto the bill clearly shows that ALL politicians (especially Republican politicians) are nothing more than lying, treacherous pond scum, and I see no reason to vote for any of them. Those traitors finally came out and told the truth, they have supported abortion all along. No wonder the Democrat filibuster of pro-life judicial appointees is succeeding, the Republican Senators WANT it to succeed. From here on I have no further interest in politics. Let the the stinking Democrats have it all, at least they aren't lying about their position on the single most important issue ever to face the American people.

48 Republican Senators voted for a statement which says they fully approve of murdering innocent, helpless human beings. Many, probably most, of those same Senators who voted for that bill took our money and our votes while promising to "do something" about the abortion holocost. Now we see what they meant by "doing something". They meant to engrave Roe v Wade in stone for the duration of the republic. For the last 30 years the Republican platform has been a flat-out lie straight from the pit of hell. A pox on all of them.

BTW, a reading of the bill shows that it is a meaningless farce. Any abortionist with an ounce of ingenuity can easily work around those flimsy "restrictions" and go right on merrily butchering tiny, living, conscious, feeling babies in the act of being born just as though this law was never written. The same Republicans who wrote the "sense of the Senate" and voted for this worthless bill will soon be preening around the landscape claiming they secured a great victory for pro-life movement. BS. What they secured is absolutely worthless, and they added salt to the wounds by brazenly admitting they have been betraying pro-life voters for decades. How could any human being sink any lower into depravity than those filthy lumps of reeking excrement?

[Jim Robinson]

C'mon. Ok, I'll ask you the same question. Do you honestly believe that Rick Santorum and the pro-life Republicans are betraying us? Do you honestly believe, as this article claims, that everything they've said (regarding their pro-life positions) is all a pack of lies? And that 48 Republicans voted to affirm Row vs Wade (The Harkin Democrat amendment)? You don't recognize statements like these as anti-GOP smear and propaganda?

[Jim Robinson]

Sheesh! More idiocy on parade.

[Jim Robinson]

The "sense of the Senate" b/s is a Democrat inserted "bill killer" amendment. The rest of this article is pure bunk.

[William Wallace]

And that's before you even parse "deliberately and intentionally" "for the purpose of" "knows will kill" or "overt" ...

This is a *criminal* statute.

Intent is a necessary element of any crime.

Otherwise we'd have people going to jail for accidents/mistakes.

[honeygrl]

Wow, I see how it's meant to work now and that it should be a very useful ban if they can enforce it well. Is there a way for them to prove easily when a doctor doesn't follow the law? How are they required to document each abortion so that it's clear when they violate the ban? I think they should be required to video tape it so the mother can see exactly how it was done if she chooses to so if they screw up, she has proof AND it could show the mother having the abortion exactly what she just had done to her and her baby. For the life of me, I cannot understand how a woman could go that far into the pregnancy and abort the baby instead of giving it up for adoption when it's naturally born. Then, she doesn't have to keep the baby and it makes some other family very happy and blessed to find a baby to adopt. I feel very certain that newborns are easy to find adoptive parents even though the older kids have trouble finding homes. I hear the waiting lists are very long here in the US for babies. I know my hubby's cousin had to adopt a child from another country to find a younger child that hadn't already been mentally warped from being moved from foster home to foster home. They finally found a 3yr old boy from a hispanic country (if I remember right) and he's just so sweet and well behaved.

[epow]

I admit that this PBA is a small win in the the big picture of stopping abortions .. but it is still a win and a move in the right direction

It is not a win. It's a worthless, unenforcible sop thrown to the pro-life crowd in hopes of shutting us up while they go about their real business, getting their sorry butts re-elected to the sweetest gravy train ever devised by human minds. There's no point in going to a 3rd party, and there's no use voting for either major party. I can't vote for liars and betrayers of my trust, so I'm washing my hands of the entire mess.

But I have no doubt that America will pay dearly for what it's doing. God does not tolerate being mocked, and the USA has been mocking him now for several generations. With one hand we grab from God's hands material blessings undreamed of by previous generations, while with the other hand we commit unspeakable sins and atrocities against God and humanity. Our government's policies only reflect the will of the people, and both are destined for destruction unless something changes radically, and soon. God's mill grinds exceedingly slow, but it also grinds exceedingly fine.

[F.J. Mitchell]

Maybe I'm a candidate for poster boy for that phrase: "There's no fool like an old fool." We have waited so long that I was hoping for a much more restrictive bill with severer penalties for those who violate the letter of this law.

In my lifetime I want to see the right to life of the unborn protected by the same laws that protect my own right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

I firmly believe that only the Republican Party and Conservatism can deliver us from the sewer that liberal democrats have flushed us into. I thank God for G.W. Bush and his able advisers in these troubled times.

[Jim Robinson]

I've got a heck of an idea. How about we dump Bush and the pro-life Republicans from the House and Senate. Then we can let Hillary and Co run the country to hell and when the people finally see what full blown hell on earth is really like, they will suddenly see the light, repent, and rise up against the heathen politicians. And then we'll all live happily in paradise forever after.

[Mo1]

It is not a win. It's a worthless, unenforcible sop thrown to the pro-life crowd in hopes of shutting us up while they go about their real business, getting their sorry butts re-elected to the sweetest gravy train ever devised by human minds. There's no point in going to a 3rd party, and there's no use voting for either major party

Oh heck .. if that's the case .. I might as well just step in front of a bus and end it all right now

Since I'm going to hell, what's the point in living any more

[Yeti]

Do you honestly believe that Rick Santorum and the pro-life Republicans are betraying us? Do you honestly believe, as this article claims, that everything they've said (regarding their pro-life positions) is all a pack of lies?

A two-faced politician? NO! Not in the GOP!

I think the R's are strained from all of W's "pulling rightward" and wanted to pass something to please the core constituency. But to pass it they had to water it down. They apparently haven't considered the long-term implications of having this legislation in place: it will be in the way if they ever try to do something real.

They just wanted to be able to walk around saying "We banned this atrocity!" But in the crafting of the bill for passage, they generated one of these absurdities that are common in our law, where a centimeter's difference in protrusion makes the legal difference between an atrocious crime and a constitutionally protected medical "right."

They are blowing it. They think they will get the best of both worlds -- pro-lifers will say "Yay! We banned PBA!" and Libs will say "Yay! Roe v. Wade is affirmed and the law has no practical teeth!" But just the opposite will happen, the worst of both worlds. Pro-lifers will see the wording and the absence of practical teeth, and scream "Betrayal!" and Libs will see "partial birth ABORTION BAN!? I'll vote 3 times next year!"

I could be wrong, I've been wrong before, I'm out of the mainstream, I don't watch TV, all that... but it really looks like the R's are programmed to self-destruct.

Not that I care, as I already intended to vote Libertarian as a protest vote directed at both parties, whom I believe to be equally fraudulent, differing only in image and rhetoric.

[William Wallace]

b) SENSE OF THE SENATE- It is the sense of the Senate that-- (1) the decision of the Supreme Court in Roe v. Wade (410 U.S. 113 (1973)) was appropriate and secures an important constitutional right; and (2) such decision should not be overturned. Passed the Senate March 13, 2003

That section and $4.75 will buy a double latte at Starbuck's.

From a legal perspective, that paragraph means zilch. It means less than those inane Congressional resolutions declaring the first Tuesday in October National Esperanto Palindrome Day & authorizing the Prez to commemorate same with appropriate ceremonies.

From a political perspective, it's a tiny figleaf for the RINOs whose votes were necessary for the bill to pass. And it gives the pro-aborts something to heckle pro-life Senators with during election time.

If this is your idea of a loss, I assume you were not a Red Sox fan in '78 or '86.