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To: Jim Robinson
Do you honestly believe that Rick Santorum and the pro-life Republicans are betraying us? Do you honestly believe, as this article claims, that everything they've said (regarding their pro-life positions) is all a pack of lies?

A two-faced politician? NO! Not in the GOP!

I think the R's are strained from all of W's "pulling rightward" and wanted to pass something to please the core constituency. But to pass it they had to water it down. They apparently haven't considered the long-term implications of having this legislation in place: it will be in the way if they ever try to do something real.

They just wanted to be able to walk around saying "We banned this atrocity!" But in the crafting of the bill for passage, they generated one of these absurdities that are common in our law, where a centimeter's difference in protrusion makes the legal difference between an atrocious crime and a constitutionally protected medical "right."

They are blowing it. They think they will get the best of both worlds -- pro-lifers will say "Yay! We banned PBA!" and Libs will say "Yay! Roe v. Wade is affirmed and the law has no practical teeth!" But just the opposite will happen, the worst of both worlds. Pro-lifers will see the wording and the absence of practical teeth, and scream "Betrayal!" and Libs will see "partial birth ABORTION BAN!? I'll vote 3 times next year!"

I could be wrong, I've been wrong before, I'm out of the mainstream, I don't watch TV, all that... but it really looks like the R's are programmed to self-destruct.

Not that I care, as I already intended to vote Libertarian as a protest vote directed at both parties, whom I believe to be equally fraudulent, differing only in image and rhetoric.

239 posted on 08/05/2003 3:52:42 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: Yeti
Yes, you are wrong. And your last statement explains it all.
241 posted on 08/05/2003 4:11:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: Yeti
I mentioned the matter of it only banning one type of late term abortion when I first saw the bill passed and heard about the difference.

Nobody said a word. Now, all of a sudden you people come out of the woodwork to criticize.

At the time, I was disturbed by the few areas actually covered by the bill.

But, then I thought about who introduced and backed the amendment to make it restrict more types........NOT CONSERVATIVES, BUT LIBERALS. Thus, they did it for an underhanded reason of some sort and I trust the GOP judgment to pass on that amendment.

Unfortunately, this is the only type of bill that might pass SCOTUS muster and THIS WILL go before the SCOTUS.

I want more, but am willing to wait since trying to do more now would end up blowing up in our faces. The public is growing more pro-life and the most pro-life group is GENERATION X!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is incredible hope for the future and we can't afford to see these gains in the public's hearts gone. It is amazing that when Bush said he wanted to change hearts on this issue that hearts are actually changing. Amazing. Just mentioning the sanctity of all life in his speeches seems to do a lot.
404 posted on 08/05/2003 9:53:57 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.collegemedianews.com *some interesting radio news reports here; check it out*)
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