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Schools at odds in racial division - Hearne ISD sues nearby Mumford for "white flight"
Houston Chronicle ^ | August 3, 2003 | JAMES KIMBERLY

Posted on 08/03/2003 12:44:26 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
When I was in junior high, I had a science teacher who was the worst. He could not explain a concept or a project clearly. It is the only class in which I can remember feeling regularly confused. This teacher was also incapabale of maintaining good order and proper respect in his classroom. Guess what? 20 years later, he was the superintendent of Hearne ISD schools. He held the position for a good number of years. I cannot imagine a school board hiring the man. From what I heard and read, the district suffered (apparently willingly) under his guidance.

Also, I currently teach (in a much larger town) with a teacher who formerly taught in Hearne ISD. She taught ESL (no specialization in that area), Spanish (no specialization in that area) and about 4 other subjects, including industrial technology and various computer courses. Does this help explain why people are taking their children out of Hearne schools? [In our district, she's currently teaching computer classes and industrial tech.]

41 posted on 08/03/2003 6:53:13 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
There is quite a bit that can be said about this article, but I'll just hit a few high points:

"This kind of white flight is just devastating to a school district like Hearne," said attorney Donald Henslee."

White people can't win for losing. If there are "too many" of us somewhere (like NASCAR, for instance), then the libs have a fit and demand that minorities be brought in for "diversity". If too many of us leave from somewhere...then that is a problem too....necessitating a lawsuit to drag us back. Has anyone ever noticed that the libs spend a heck of a lot of time trying to manipulate and control the white middle class?

"Although students of all races and ethnicities have transferred from Hearne to Mumford, it is the flight of the white students that has raised the most ire."

Why should this be? Isn't this racist itself? Why should the libs be any more concerned about the transfer of whites than blacks or hispanics?

"More importantly, the district loses approximately $5,500 in state aid for every student that leaves"

Well...it sounds like this may be the crux of the matter. The lousy school is PO'ed that the peasants are fleeing the fields for greener pastures. God forbid they'd actually attempt to attract more students back by improving the quality of the education they provide. They should just do what the E German commies did when confronted with the same problem...build a wall and shoot anyone who tries to escape. Its brutal, but more honest.

One final observation: Have you ever noticed that despite all of the complaining that blacks do about whites and about america....very few of them have ever left to live somewhere else? Very few have ever picked up and gone somewhere where they won't have to be around evil white people so much. They seem to get very nervous when there aren't many of us around. I wonder why that is?

42 posted on 08/03/2003 7:00:34 AM PDT by quebecois
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To: Clara Lou
Parents have every right to educate their children anywhere they want for any reason they have.

The liberals should realize by now that parents (both black and white) want a decent education for their children and don't care where they get it. They shouldn't assume that parents have the same social agenda as they do.
43 posted on 08/03/2003 8:06:45 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: mathluv
I don't know how many races there are (different numbers have been stated at different times) and don't care. Most people are at least somewhat homogenized by now anyway. The whole thing should be irrelevant but, the race pimps of various persuasions and their government partners-in-crime will never let it die as long as there's a dollar or advantage in perpetuating the needless mess. As far as I'm concerned, no intelligent, honest person would have much interest in the subject (with the exception of anthropologists and certain medical interests). There's no legitimate government interest. In the sense I'm talking about it here, it's absurd.

But, now we're getting an absurdity on top of an absurdity; i.e., 'Hispanic' is becoming a 'race' in the PC lexicon. This is doubly absurd because virtually every so-called 'race' I've ever heard of is included under the term 'Hispanic'. This is 'Alice-In-Wonderland' stuff. It would be humorous were it not so stupid.

And now, my real reason for all this...the rest of the story...if you can't beat 'em, join 'em...get in the game.

Low self-esteem got you down? Sick of not being an 'official' racial minority? Join the 'Buckwheats Gringos' race today. You'll definitely be in the minority then. For only $9.95 I'll send you one 'Buckwheats Gringos Consular Card', one 'Buckwheats Gringos Drivers License' (include your state of residence and a teeny little photo that readily accepts glue), one 'Buckwheats Gringos Universal Voter Card', and one 'Official Buckwheats Gringos Racial Identity Card' (which says 'Good For Nothing' in big faux-gold letters with chain-link edging, yet may get you admitted to many colleges). No one denied. Feel proud again. Don't delay!
44 posted on 08/03/2003 8:49:00 AM PDT by Buckwheats
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Hearne school board members have complained that Mumford is stealing its most academically talented students, hurting Hearne's performance on state tests. >>>>>>>

oh since those transferring are mostly white what the school board is saying is the black students aren't academically talented and they really need the other races to keep their scores up. (isn't that racist?)
45 posted on 08/03/2003 9:05:02 AM PDT by tickles
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Read and comment on the contents - please.

White students cannot get a decent education in a majority black classroom (and for that matter, neither can black students). In general, black classrooms are too disruptive, intimidating and often violent. Therefore, whites (and some blacks) flee these schools for the sake of their children.

It is nothing new. This has been going on for at least the last thirty years.

There, I've said it.

46 posted on 08/03/2003 9:19:02 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: quebecois
Well...it sounds like this may be the crux of the matter. The lousy school is PO'ed that the peasants are fleeing the fields for greener pastures. God forbid they'd actually attempt to attract more students back by improving the quality of the education they provide. They should just do what the E German commies did when confronted with the same problem...build a wall and shoot anyone who tries to escape. Its brutal, but more honest.

You've described public education in American today.

47 posted on 08/03/2003 1:41:59 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; Clara Lou
Thanks for the insights and comments.
48 posted on 08/03/2003 1:42:56 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: tickles
They're saying it but it really is all about the money.
49 posted on 08/03/2003 1:44:47 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Drew68
You've described reality created by lousy education. Those remaining in the worst of the worst more than likely are offspring of students who were "educated" by the same system. Many see that it for the dead end it is for their children, too many don't care. But those who do want out, they're standing in line for vouchers and fighting LIBERALS who are standing in their way.
50 posted on 08/03/2003 1:49:24 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: SickOfItAll
The drumbeat is getting louder. More mothers are staying home. More parents are teaching at home or supporting private schools. More blacks are demanding vouchers to get away from rotten schools. More hispanics are demanding English only.
52 posted on 08/03/2003 2:07:16 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Clara Lou
Also, I currently teach (in a much larger town) with a teacher who formerly taught in Hearne ISD. She taught ESL (no specialization in that area), Spanish (no specialization in that area) and about 4 other subjects, including industrial technology and various computer courses. Does this help explain why people are taking their children out of Hearne schools? [In our district, she's currently teaching computer classes and industrial tech.]

I understand...they're the ones who keep their jobs. If a teacher pushes the level and brings it up (s)he gets to move. It's sad, but true and no one will defend you. This is a barometer of the downfall of the nation. You have mail.

53 posted on 08/03/2003 2:10:38 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (De tal palo, tal astilla.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
What's more, Henslee said, the practice violates the federal desegregation order that governs Texas. While the order allows students to transfer from one school district to another as long as the receiving school district can accommodate them, it expressly prohibits transfers that will alter the racial makeup of either school district by more than 1 percent.

Gosh, that wouldn't have been a ruling by a liberal activist judge, would it?

54 posted on 08/03/2003 3:06:20 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
St. Petersburg is grappling with this formula too. It is running into trouble across the country and it's coming from parents of all shades.
55 posted on 08/04/2003 12:37:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: sgtbono2002

I went to Hearne High School and graduated from there. I now have two brothers that attend Mumford. Yes I am white, but I had no problem attending a predominatly black school. The problem I have with Hearne Schools now is the lack of educationl excellence. Students have every right to choose where they want to go to school if the school they go to is not fulfilling its academic responsiblilites. Hearne I'm sorry to say is not doing that at all.


56 posted on 09/08/2004 1:39:11 AM PDT by TexasAggie2006
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To: All
The latest:

Two school districts embroiled in racial tug of war (this one has it all: choice, naacp, money tug)***MUMFORD - About 70 white students were turned away from their schools here for two days this week as their parents, school administrators and civil rights attorneys fought the latest round in a racially charged legal battle between two small-town Central Texas school districts.

A ruling Friday will allow the students, who had transferred from lower-performing schools in nearby Hearne, to return to their classrooms in Mumford on Monday.

The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals granted an emergency stay to allow the transfer students to remain until a hearing in early October. Students, some of whom have attended the 460- student Mumford district since kindergarten, were banned earlier this week, after U.S. District Judge William Wayne Justice ruled that their transfers violated federal desegregation laws by significantly altering the racial makeup of the school districts.

......"This is an education flee. They're running to get an education. It's not about race or color," said Tim Johnson, a 1985 graduate of Hearne High, whose 13-year-old son attends Mumford. "I feel sorry for the kids that are (at Hearne) and cannot get out and go somewhere else."

....."It was awful," said Reed, adding that teachers were starting to organize to home-school children who didn't want to attend Hearne schools.......***

57 posted on 08/13/2005 12:56:19 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: sgtbono2002

Our school district closed my kids' school in June. Out of 31 elementary schools to choose from (and 8 on the California list of failing schools that could be taken over by the state), the district chose our school. It had the 6th highest test scores in the district and was a National Blue Ribbon and California Distinguished school.

The district made a list of 8 potential schools to close. None of the schools in the primarily hispanic part of town where enrollment is dropping were on the list.


Out of the 8 schools, they didn't want to close a magnet school that costs twice as much to operate and has lower test scores because they wanted to give the lower income children more choice in schooling.


58 posted on 08/15/2005 2:15:12 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
My children were 2 of the 70 students who were allowed to return to school in Mumford today. The whole issue here is about money. Hearne doesn't care about educating my children. We chose Mumford over 6 years ago for our children because of the education they provided. Because they are white they were going to be forced into a school that barely passes on its TAKS tests. I will home school first.
59 posted on 08/15/2005 7:47:50 PM PDT by Hearne1995
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To: Hearne1995
I find this a fascinating case Hearne1995. Keep us up to date on what's happening.

Each case like this need exposer. Other districts will follow suit.

I hope this goes to the Supreme Court.

It would be grand if it took us further down the road to having taxed dollars follow the student, even to their homeschool.
60 posted on 08/16/2005 12:59:55 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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