Swedish researchers claim to have found proscribed weapons in Iraq

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[visagoth]

Swedish researchers claim to have found proscribed weapons in Iraq

A group of Swedish researchers, travelling to Iraq without the knowledge of the Swedish government, is announcing that they have found missiles for weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in a house in Baghdad.

The finds will be presented in a forthcoming production by World Television Network (WTN). The information supposedly came to Swedish WTN reporter Maria Wera Cedrell, who has worked in Iraq for 15 years, through an Iraqi scientist. She was assisted by former arms inspector and WMD expert Åke Sellström from Swedish Defence Research Agency (Totalförsvarets forskningsinstitut, FOI).

"I think we have found "a smoking gun." But that is not up to me to decide."

Sellström describes this as pieces of a puzzle But the researchers will not reveal any details before the find is presented in a TV production and a book project (possible red alert here).

Swedish authorities, deeply critical to US policy in Ira q, is not amused about military scientists going to Iraq to conduct private investigations without informing them first.

(From a Swedish article in Expressen)

Update: just heard on the radio (NRK) that these scientists have also received information that Saddam had a programme for production of anthrax weapons even while the latest inspections were going on. Sellström is presented as a well-renowed expert in the field who has worked with Hans Blix. A TV production about the find will be presented on Swedish TV tonight.

[visagoth]

This news was referenced at:
Instapundit, which leads to a couple of other stories.... seems interesting.

[DB]

Hopefully someone will be able to report here about the TV program after it has aired.

[solzhenitsyn]

they have found missiles for weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in a house in Baghdad.

Complete missiles? That would have to be a big house. You don't use small missiles for NBC weapons.

Hope there's something to this!

[sirchtruth]

So here we go, all the stories are starting to leak about possible WMD evidence. The media will be unscrupulous in their cover up of their lies and innuendo's about WMD.

I say boycott all media who ran stories about Bush lying about WMD and futher boycott their sponsers if it turns out Bush has had evidence all along like he has stated he has.

These sycho left media people deserve not one once of credibility with anyone...and Imus can KMA!!!

[ChadGore]

[Vinnie]

So here we go, all the stories are starting to leak about possible WMD evidence. The media will be unscrupulous in their cover up of their lies and innuendo's about WMD.

The WMD stories are being dribbled out, just like clinton's crimes were. By the time they are all out, no one can connect the dots.

The WMD story should be held up until a logical cascade of evidence points to the undeniable conclusion that Iraq had WMD.

[Clara Lou]

It seems impressive, to me, that Swedes are reporting this. This gives more weight to the story (in the minds of doubters or deniers) than if it were the US or Britain reporting it.

[larryjohnson]

I this your translation and do you get Swedish TV?

[ChadGore]

If true, it's good work.

[Lazamataz]

So here we go, all the stories are starting to leak about possible WMD evidence. The media will be unscrupulous in their cover up of their lies and innuendo's about WMD.

They are on record. The best part of this will be reading the words of the liberal senators and congresscritters back to them.

[ChadGore]

"Youzin takin zee one part anthrax, and zee 2 parts . . ."

[verity]

It's not a missle; it's an old lava lamp!

[sirchtruth]

The best part of this will be reading the words of the liberal senators and congresscritters back to them.

YES! So my question is how are they going to wriggle out of their shame and embarrassment, for not questioning, but outright calling Bush and Blair liars.

[sirchtruth]

It's not a missle; it's an old lava lamp!

LOL!

[Pikachu_Dad]

WoooWooo. A smoking gun, is that like a burning Bush? (ouch that's a bad pun).

Now there is an interesting angle. Given the D's willingness to argue both sides of an issue, watch for them and the media to suddenly swing over to the other side and go whole hog looking for WMD's?

"This is Peter Jennings, in Bagdad, WE have found the weapons of masss destruction that those incompetent 'government people' could not find... Impeach bush for his failure to find the weapons under his nose. Why Bush stood on this very site 50 days ago and failed to see that the very ground he stood on was made up of packaged anthrax.... Now over to aMoral Liason for her take on this issue."

[Lazamataz]

YES! So my question is how are they going to wriggle out of their shame and embarrassment, for not questioning, but outright calling Bush and Blair liars.

Actually, pretty simply: "We were acting with the information we had at the time. At the time it seemed like they were lying."

[csvset]

Wow, you even included a Moose in the pic. This must be series!

[tsmith130]

Oh it's hugh!

[sirchtruth]

"We were acting with the information we had at the time. At the time it seemed like they were lying."

Yes,...right Senator, but Bush stated several times that, "there is evidence and it will be released at the appropriate time." You obviously thought he was misspeaking.

Game of softball anyone?

[sirchtruth]

Given the D's willingness to argue both sides of an issue, watch for them and the media to suddenly swing over to the other side and go whole hog looking for WMD's?

Given that scenario how might we imagine to bury their sqwank. (CD)

[Lazamataz]

Game of softball anyone?

Speaking of softball, all they need to do is be "harshly" interviewed by Matt Lauer, Katie Couric or Chris Matthews and they will consider themselves absolved.

[Normal4me]

Knowing Peter Jennings' style, it would be more like "How much is this search for WMD's costing Americans and can we really afford it?"

The media will down play this whole thing and harp on unemployment numbers or the economy.

[sirchtruth]

The WMD story should be held up until a logical cascade of evidence points to the undeniable conclusion that Iraq had WMD.

Exactly, this is why Bush has stated the things he has about releasing the evidence at the appropriate time.

Good point.

[sirchtruth]

"harshly"

Now that's a word!

I can just see ole Katie spewing it now.

[ChadGore]

Re:This must be series!

This is sirius:

[wayoverontheright]

Update: just heard on the radio (NRK) that these scientists have also received information that Saddam had a programme for production of anthrax weapons even while the latest inspections were going on. Sellström is presented as a well-renowed expert in the field who has worked with Hans Blix. A TV production about the find will be presented on Swedish TV tonight.

We will soon find evidence that Iraq was behind the post 9-11 anthrax mailings.

Everyone needs to read Laurie Mylroie's new book Bush Vs the Beltway, in which she lays out the case against Iraq. It seems our own CIA and FBI had political reasons for trying to lay this on Hatfield instead of Iraq, also when this all came to light, we were not prepared to announce to the world that this attack was indeed state sponsored. One of the pieces of evidence she has presented involves one of the hijackers, only a few days before piloting a plane into one of the towers,having been treated for a sore which the doctor now admits could have been cutaneous anthrax.

She also tells how the Ames strain could have gotten into Iraqi hands through a British firm which turns out to have been owned by an Arab.

Our own CIA did everything it could to keep this info from being revealed. Why hasn't Bush fired Tenet?

[arasina]

LOL! Clever!

[ChadGore]

Re: This is Peter Jennings,

I'm peter Jennings

"More Americans
get their news
from my ass,
than from any other ass"

.....
except George Steolufogus

[arasina]

Now over to aMoral Liason for her take on this issue."

I'd laugh at your Peter Jennings imagery if it weren't so close to the truth. As for Miss NPR, I always call her More-uh LIES-son.

[ChadGore]

Articles and opinion:

"'This is the "smoking gun" the U.S. is looking for'" (Maria Gners, Svenska Dagbladet/Watch, 2003/08/03)
A partial translation of an article in today's paper version of the Swedish newspaper Svenska Dagbladet. It should be noted that World Television Network doesn't even seem to have a site of their own and the only former mention of Wera Maria Cedrell I can find is in a dispatch on a meeting with Iraq's former information minister. But this is a big story in today's Swedish newspapers, with Expressen publishing "sensational", "world exclusive" pictures "which might prove that Saddam Hussein had WMD's" in its paper edition, for example:
"Experts from FOI [Swedish Defence Research Agency] accompanied the Monte Carlo based production company World Television Network, when they were doing a report in Iraq with a team fronted by the Swedish journalist Wera Maria Cedrell. Wera Maria Cedrell claims that she has evidence proving that Saddam's regime produced weapons of mass destructions as late as the last year.
"This is the "smoking gun" the U.S. is looking for," she says.
The allegations made by the TV team is based on tips from two Iraqi scientists. ...
The evidence consisted of files, documents and maps. ... After having been informed of the findings by telephone, FOI chose to send down two men.
"They flew down immediately and worked with us for a week. After a preliminary investigation they assessed that the findings were very interesting and almost to good to be true," Wera Maria Cedrell says.
The TV team and the experts visited buildings and locations pointed out by the Iraqi scientists. They describe the production of WMD's as small-scaled but copious.
"We visited about ten locations. Everything was looted, but only for chairs and tables — not documents. We found a lot of documents and blueprints, and also material and boxes." ...
The evidence will be presented in a series of books, which Wera Maria Cedrell currently are writing together with the American journalist Nate Thyer and an Iraqi member of the Governing Council."

[mewzilla]

The CIA problem is a lot bigger than Tenet.

[ChadGore]

Can someone translate this ?

http://www.expressen.se/expressen/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=442&a=51623

[wayoverontheright]

The CIA problem is a lot bigger than Tenet.

Most certainly, but firing Tenet would be a good start toward the cleanup.

[ChadGore]

bump

[John H K]

Everyone needs to read Laurie Mylroie's new book Bush Vs the Beltway, in which she lays out the case against Iraq. It seems our own CIA and FBI had political reasons for trying to lay this on Hatfield instead of Iraq

Popular on FR but this is quite possibly the stupidest theory on anything ever devised.

[wayoverontheright]

Everyone needs to read Laurie Mylroie's new book Bush Vs the Beltway, in which she lays out the case against Iraq. It seems our own CIA and FBI had political reasons for trying to lay this on Hatfield instead of Iraq

Popular on FR but this is quite possibly the stupidest theory on anything ever devised.

It's not at all impossible that Saddam Hussein wanted to strike at America in a clandestine manner, also not implausible that some among the neutered, politicized, Clintonized intelligence bureaus tried in knee-jerk fashion to pin the anthrax episode on a domestic source. Thus far they have failed to implicate Hatfield, and the attempt to do so seems pretty stupid at this point, because a great deal of evidence points to Iraq as the source.

Whether deriving from political reasons or ineptitude is beside the point, Iraq should have been looked at more closely IMHO.

[ArmstedFragg]

....presented in a TV production and a book project (possible red alert here).

Possible?????

Not yet noon on Sunday and we have the understatement of the week already.

[lepton]

Complete missiles? That would have to be a big house. You don't use small missiles for NBC weapons.

Battlefield rockets with solid-fuel boosters aren't that big for bio or chem warheads.

[yonif]

missiles for weapons of mass destruction

Does this mean the missiles can be used for WMD or do they have WMD in them or what?

[freeangel]

But then the left will again defend Sodamn by saying that he did not actully use those weapons against our troops.

[MJY1288]

I keep waiting for Peter Jennings, Dan Rather and the rest of the Pro-Saddam crowd to hold a candle light vigil for Uday and Qusay

[GraniteStateConservative]

Wera Maria Cedrell claims that she has evidence proving that Saddam's regime produced weapons of mass destructions as late as the last year.

She didn't get the memo. That's not good enough. We have to have proof he had WMD the day we launched attacks against our target of opportunity.

[EGPWS]

But then the left will again defend Sodamn by saying that he did not actully use those weapons against our troops.

Better yet, Saddam could NOT have used them for they were planted by the Bush Administration after the war. If they would have been their all along, Hans would have found them!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

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"'This is the "smoking gun" the U.S. is looking for'"

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[Dog]

Knighthawk can you help Chad translate an article he found.....see post 32.

Thanks!

[Bogey78O]

For atomic weapons that would be true. That hqarkens back to the "atomic handgrenade" scenario. But for bio and chemical a short range rocket would work well enough. If you only need to go 1-2 miles in a tactical setting a huge launch vehicle isn't needed.

[rwfromkansas]

Any Swede Freepers?

[CyberAnt]

"expert in the field who has worked with Hans Blix"

Oh yeah, this being from Sweden gives more weight to the story .. NOT!!! Anybody connected to Hans has to be suspect in my book.

[rwfromkansas]

There may be some leaks, but Blair has made it clear the EVIDENCE of the leaks and everything which hasn't been leaked (which is almost everything....no doubt the leaks are just a tiny piece of the puzzle) will be released all at once, not piecemeal.

That is what people in Washington are indicating as well.

[Bogey78O]

There was a woman who works for CNN radio in Atlanta who said "I am on the air tonight. I don't want to do the Saddam Hussein's sons story, it makes me horribly sad." in her online journal. It caused a small furor. I posted a comment on here about it and she tracked it down and replied to it.

The American liberal press are a curious people who have a set of beliefs that make them say crazy things.