Get Back! The Gathering Storm Over Gay Rights

Village Voice ^ | August 6 - 12, 2003 | Richard Goldstein

[wideawake]

I prefer the more accurate term "sodomite."

[tractorman]

I agree, sodomite it is!

[DBrow]

"In May, 80 percent of liberals favored gay civil unions, if not full-blown marriage"

Of course they do. Full-up marriage involves not just emotional commitment, but the willingness to share 50% of your belongings. Divorce and alimony come along with marriage, and in most states that means property division too.

In other words, responsibility and consequences.

I don't think the liberals or the GLBTQ community really wants to codify responsibility and consequence into their relationships- this will be left to us breeders while the gays change partners by filing a form with the company they work for, or at most at city hall.

Let's say Steve, 38, marries Glenn, 26. Steve has a house and car, collection of stamps and a nice stereo with 400 CDs. Glenn has a car and apartment and a student loan he is still paying off. So if we actually let them marry, if and when they divorce, Steve will lose half his house and stamps and they will fight in court over the CDs and other stuff, and whether Steve will help pay off Glenn's loans. A rude awakening to the fact that marriage is a contract with the terms set by a third party.

I think they will "settle" for "gay unions" that will give the "rights" but not the responsibility.

[Huck]

That was a very funny episode! "I'm exceedingly gay!"

[Polycarp]

If they can call me a homophobe – which by the way makes no sense in Latin – then they must be homos.

Kopp's Corollary to 'Godwin's Law' for internet debate

"I'm right because...you're a Nazi!"

"I'm right because...you're a HOMOPHOBE!"

Throwing around the term "homophobe" in a debate is the same as having recourse to terms related to Nazi Germany. Once you throw out the label "homophobe" you have lost the debate.

I recommend all conservatives adopt and strictly enforce this.

--Dr. Kopp

[dfrussell]

Welcome to the we're-*REALLY*-tired-of-the-fudgepackers backlash.

Not satisfied with tolerance, they insisted on everyone accepting them and wanting to be like them... ignoring the death rates from AIDs, suicide, multiple concurrent STDs, etc. "Gay" Yeah, right. A one-word oxymoron.

And now the older fudgepackers are making highschools for misguided teenagers... makes it easier to get laid, I guess.

What's next? Grade schools for "Gay, Lesbian and transgendered"? When little Sally says she wants to be a boy, do you take her in for a conversion? Encourage her to "come out" and "embrace her sexuality"?

Excuse me, but what in the hell does someone that age really know about sex or themselves for that matter?

This is nothing more than the NAMBLA crowd getting their wish -- with the idiot parents cheering them on in the name of diversity.

This is why I can't stand a lot of the 60s era parents: they are, like, sooooooooooo burnt out and stupid, dude.

[webstersII]

"This week, auditions will be held
for 'the first openly gay country music star,'"

Okay, now this one I can't wait to see.

Country music is a niche market and its followers are not likely to support this "trend".

[tractorman]

Does your Corollary also include the term "sodomitephobe"?

[dfrussell]

headed down the wrong road

Bad choice of words, given the topic :-)

[robowombat]

I think they will "settle" for "gay unions" that will give the "rights" but not the responsibility

Rights without responsibilities the hallmark of the whore throughout history.

[Huck]

Kojak is a great show. I have four VHS tapes filled up with Kojak episodes.

[cinFLA]

And the probable percentage of gays in the population is only about 5%,

More like 2 percent. A little higher for males, a little lower for females. The 5-6 percent includes 'heterosexuals that have had some type of homosexual experience.

[Nonstatist]

We should be sending queer griots into black churches, celebrating the major role lesbians have played in the Latino struggle, telling the stories of homos growing up in trailers

LOL! Yea, and if it never happened, lets get the media to swear it did!!

[jonascord]

The one thing you can be sure of is that this is ONE school where if a boy makes a "Brrraaappp" sound, you can be absolutely sure it was NOT a fart...

[Flashman_at_the_charge]

The homosexual lobby has lost any claim to the moral, and I use the word advisedly, high ground by seeking laws which define themselves as a protected and special group before the law. Their cause would have been better presented by appealing for better enforcement of equal protection under law. Conservatives would have supported this.

As for marriage a lot of people would support some sort of civil union. Surely the huge homosexual lobby has the resources to research and create legal documents, which would provide same sex couples with all the commitments and legal protections of a marriage. It could be called anything they like, but they can’t call it marriage, for it is not one.

The larger move by homosexuals from seeking tolerance to seeking celebration and special protection of their lifestyle will only energize the moral majority of America.

[Joe Boucher]

A male boinking another man in the pooper is not something I will ever be accepting of.
Regardless of what the public relations state, the bible says that a man should not lay down with another man.
Therefore it is wrong.
Liberal crap and acceptance be damned.

[iconoclast]

The larger move by homosexuals from seeking tolerance to seeking celebration and special protection of their lifestyle will only energize the moral majority of America.

1)"Moral Majority" is a slogan, not a reality.

2)Unless government schools are stamped out the accomplishment of the queer agenda is simply a matter of time.

[muawiyah]

Actually, your rather "fundy" point of view has quite a bit of merit. There is, in fact, ample evidence in recent history that if you have a society where homosexuals are allowed to move into the political arena they end up imposing their distorted view of society on everybody else, even if they have to kill them.

The Nazi party leadership was dominated by openly homosexual partyboys. About the only homosexuals killed by the Nazis were their buddies who got crosswise with them politically, if not in other ways.

In the end the Nazis killed millions of Jews and tens of millions of others.

Even now the homosexuals are powerful enough that they've pressured the Holocaust Museum in DC to present an exhibit about homosexuals supposedly murdered by Nazis. The anti-semitism now rampant in the Democratic party and among all Liberals in general, is symptomatic of the same situation.

[TigersEye]

They are preparing for a decisive political battle, and so therefore so must we.

Somehow I don't see a movement for special rights for men who suck penises and women who lick vaginas going over real big with most Americans.