Gay bishop sets off talk of Episcopal schism

Washington Times ^ | Wednesday, August 6, 2003 | By Julia Duin

[JohnHuang2]

The Episcopal House of Bishops last night elected the denomination's first declared homosexual bishop, one day after his candidacy was threatened by accusations that he fondled a male parishioner and condoned pornography.

By a 62-45 vote at the denomination's session in Minneapolis, the Rev. V. Gene Robinson, 56, was elected bishop of New Hampshire, provoking talk of an Episcopal schism.

[JohnHuang2]

Wednesday, August 6, 2003

Quote of the Day by Paleo Conservative

[Capriole]

"God has once again brought an Easter out of Good Friday," Mr. Robinson said...

How dare he equate himself with Christ in this obscene manner! The blind, unthinking hubris is absolutely evil.

[KC_Conspirator]

Anything for the gay agenda!

Schism is right. They should join a real church.

[over3Owithabrain]

Take heart! While this is a dark day for the Episcopalian church, as a cultural issue it will eventually be a winner. The gays, bolstered by the SCOTUS pro-sodomy ruling, are overplaying their hand and flaunting their "alternative" lifestyle in everyone's faces. The majority of Americans are and will increasingly be sick of it, already polls show that. But the media and the rest of liberaldom marches on, eager to offend as many as possible. Wrong is wrong, God knows it, and He will only allow it for a time.

[w_over_w]

How dare he equate himself with Christ in this obscene manner! The blind, unthinking hubris is absolutely evil.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctirne, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.

II Tim. 4:3,4

A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach; . . . Moreover he must have a good testimony among those who are outside, lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

I Tim. 3:2,7

[Mike Darancette]

62-45 vote? To hear the Leftie media you would think it was 100-0.

[Paleo Conservative]

"God has once again brought an Easter out of Good Friday," Mr. Robinson said after the votes were tabulated, his daughter Ella and his partner of 13 years, Mark Andrew, standing nearby.

That is really an outrageous statement by a "Chrisitian" minister. He is directly comparing himself to Christ, in a very frivolous way.

[GretchenEE]

This is a schism that has been needed for some good many years. I pray it happens, so that the faithful will have true shepherds over them who fear God and honor His Word.

My heart grieves over this folly. As a former Episcopalian, my heart grieves.

Sometimes a house has to divide itself so that what is good can still stand.

[Capriole]

They should join a real church.

But the Episcopal Church used to be a "real church." It used to be a force for good in the world, a place where the Word was revealed. As far as I know it still is that way in other parts of the world, like the Far East and Africa. What happened? How did this most conservative of organizations allow itself to be hijacked by leftism over the past forty or fifty years?

I joined a real church eleven years ago. They can't keep the new parishioners away. Parking is a nightmare and thousands can't be accommodated. People are hungry for a real church.

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How dare he equate himself with Christ in this obscene manner! The blind, unthinking hubris is absolutely evil.

I caught his victory sound-bite this morning before going to work and he does seem to be gloating. If he were at all concerned about the office of a bishop he would have stepped aside long ago. He should have the brains to see the harm he is causing. Seems far from perfect (not to mention the sodomy, adultery, divorce, ...)

[Darnright]

" caught his victory sound-bite this morning before going to work and he does seem to be gloating. If he were at all concerned about the office of a bishop he would have stepped aside long ago. He should have the brains to see the harm he is causing. Seems far from perfect (not to mention the sodomy, adultery, divorce, ...)"

So much for being a humble man of God.

[autoresponder]

[wimpycat]

If Mr. Robinson cared more about the church than he did about his gay activism, he would never have allowed himself to be the catalyst for a schism.

However, he and those who support him are trying to twist and pervert Christianity to conform to a recent 'innovation' in social thought-namely that homosexual behavior is just another alternative, and that God has somehow changed His mind about it being wrong, to be "up to date" and "modern".

So he's no good priest in more ways than one. He's one selfish and hateful S.O.B. as far as I'm concerned. He doesn't give a damn about how much trouble he's causing, just so long as he can get what he wants.

No intellectually honest person, even if they don't agree with it, can ever say that homosexuality is not considered a sin according to Scripture. Disagreeing or protesting the word of God, or even completely disregarding it is one thing, but trying to tell me that God never said what He said, or didn't mean what He meant by what He said, is insulting to my intelligence and really pisses me off.

[KC_Conspirator]

The Episcopal Church was also one of these organizations which supported Castro and giving Elian Gonzalez back to him. That says to me that the church has been politicized.

[Gopher Broke]

So you know that all American Anglicans have not rejected the Bible... you might be interested in AMiA's Statement on Robinson. Their web site is:
http://www.anglicanmissioninamerica.org

The Rt. Rev. Charles Murphy, Chairman of the Anglican Mission.

The Anglican Mission in America, part of the worldwide Anglican Communion as an outreach of the province of Rwanda, has weighed in on the Episcopal Church’s decision to confirm the first openly gay bishop in the history of the Christian Church.

In voicing its disapproval, the Anglican Mission contends that the central issue is not, at its core, about homosexual practice or lifestyle, although the 1998 global meeting of Anglican bishops [Lambeth Conference] unambiguously declared the practice and lifestyle to be incompatible with Scripture.

“The real issue before us is a church, the Episcopal Church in this country (ECUSA), that is in direct conflict with the Scriptures” declared the Rt. Rev. Chuck Murphy, the Anglican Mission’s Chairman.

Murphy cited a December,1997 interview with the Philadelphia Inquirer Magazine in which the Episcopal Church’s Presiding Bishop, Frank Griswold, acknowledged as much, by stating:

“Broadly speaking, the Episcopal Church is in conflict with scripture. ... (One) would have to say that the mind of Christ operative in the church over time ... has led the church to in effect contradict the words of the Gospel."

Murphy notes that "it is this kind of confusion and presumption from the very highest levels of leadership in the U.S. Episcopal Church that has now produced both this latest vote to confirm the election of Gene Robinson, and the severe crisis of Faith and leadership that now exists within the worldwide Anglican Communion. The situation now before us within the U.S. Episcopal Church demands correction, and invites the outside intervention that will, I am sure, be forthcoming."

The Anglican Mission in America is a missionary outreach of the Anglican Province of Rwanda, established three years ago in response to the crisis of faith and leadership that exists within the Episcopal Church, to focus on reaching out to the 130 million spiritually-disconnected people in the United States. The Anglican Mission is a growing movement of churches now stretching throughout the United States.