[rface]

Ashland, Missouri

[cake_crumb]

If the mainstream media can't get away with insisting this is proof that the administration 'lied' to us, this story will be buried.

[Lazamataz]

A summary of his report, described by officials who have seen it, said Republican Guard commanders were ordered by Hussein's regime to launch chemical-filled shells at oncoming coalition troops, and that Kay believes he will soon know why the shells weren't launched.

I know why.

Pucker factor.

US troops unquestionably had some nukes with them for a response in case Saddam did use chemical or bio weapons. I remember us sending a not-so-veiled threat along those lines.

Saddam's Generals wimped out.

[TonyInOhio]

May the truth be known. Thanks for transcribing this!

Tony

[sam_paine]

Maybe the Globe is warning fellow Demmy terrorists to calm down the rhetoric....or at least begin to retool for the inevitable Kay Report, and perhaps get ready to discount his credibility.

[eureka!]

NZ, as a follow up to yesterday, ping....

Otherwise, cake, methinks that this dribble will reach a tidal wave when the time is right. Politics will, as they should (because the Rats and presstitutes made the "no WMD/W lied/16 words etc" mantra for politics) dictate when that wave hits. And it will be so big, it cannot be ignored. Hehehehe....

[lasereye]

But Joseph Cirincione, a nonproliferation specialist at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, said that it would not justify the adminstration's depiction of Hussein as an imminent threat to the United States.

They didn't say he was an "imminent" threat. In his State of the Union speech, Bush said we can't wait until a threat is imminent, because of the nature of the weapons involved. Bush wanted to eliminate a future threat.

''Most of us believe that there was some program and some weapons hidden,'' he said. ''But the debate wasn't over weapons, it was over war. In four months, not a gram of anthrax has been found, not an ounce of mustard gas. Was the threat so great we had to go to war? The question for Kay is not was there mustard gas, but was there a substantial amount of mustard gas? If this is all he has -- if he has it -- this just isn't enough.''

He has actually made the administration's case, because the threat they were stopping did not have to be imminent. Plus, having programs was illegal, not just the weapons. They didn't need to have any anthrax stored. According to the former U.N. Commisioner for Iraq, the Iraqis were having trouble making their bio-weapons with a longer shelf life than a few weeks (but they were working to lengthen that), so if they were going to give some to terrorists to use, they would have had to make a new batch anyway, which they could do at any time.

In order to say the administration's case was phony, you have to say they had no programs of any kind, especially biological and nuclear, which he isn't willing to say. The Dean supporters are the types who actually believe there was nothing at all.

[Republican Red]

But Joseph Cirincione, a nonproliferation specialist at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, said that it would not justify the adminstration's depiction of Hussein as an imminent threat to the United States.

President Bush never said IMMINENT THREAT. Clinton said it in his 1998 speech. President Bush said it was a growing threat. We got to get the bad guys before it reaches immenet level.

From the State of the Union, January 2003:

Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not a strategy, and it is not an option.

[b4its2late]

Tom Daschle and Hillary Clinton are deeply saddened by this news....

[Right_in_Virginia]

BUMP for later read.

[George W. Bush]

Then why don't these Iraqi military commanders in our custody know the location of the WMD they were ordered to attack us with?

Where is even a single shell or missile or beaker or flash of the stuff?

Show us the WMD. Until then, shut up.

[randog]

David Albright, a former UN weapons inspector who has worked with Kay, said Kay has long been a zealous advocate of the idea that Iraqis had been poised to use chemical weapons, even asserting after the war that the weapons had been dumped in the Tigris and Euphrates rivers.

Perhaps so, Mr. Albright, but the difference is that Mr. Kay has evidence and a lot of it. Show us your cards, Mr. Albright, if you have anything better than a pair.

I didn't think so.

[RobbyS]

A top Bush administration weapons investigator told Congress in closed testimony last week that he has uncovered solid information from interviews, documents, and physical evidence that Iraqi military forces were ordered to attack US troops with chemical weapons, but did not have the time or capability to follow through, according to senior defense and intelligence officials.

This is what the Army was telling my son before the fighting broke out. The chemical suits that the invading forces wore were just a precaution in case the invasion did not move fast enough or some Iraqi commander had more smarts than the others.

[OXENinFLA]

-- A top Bush administration weapons investigator told Congress in closed testimony last week

Hummm I wonder who that could be! Geeesh.

[doug from upland]

This has to rank as perhaps the most stupid bluff in history. If he showed proof of WMD destruction, he could still be living the good life and engaging in his favorite hobby -- brutalizing people.

[rageaholic]

Chem weapons or no, Hussein had it coming for the past 10 years.

[thoughtomator]

Didn't we find cyanide in the Tigris when we arrived in Baghdad?

[demlosers]

''The active deception program is truly amazing once you get inside it,'' he said. ''We have people who participated in deceiving UN inspectors now telling us how they did it.''

I doubt it's "amazing." I've known a few 12 year olds who could easily fool the UN DUmmies.

[Connservative]

But, but.... I thought Bush Lied???

I mean, that's what the leftists keep telling me..

/dripping sarcasm

[Lady In Blue]

bump

[Libertina]

Now Tom Daschle is "deeply MAD." ;)