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Why are haredim ("ultra-Orthodox") hated?
Jerusalem Post ^ | Aug. 7, 2003 | Jonathan Rosenblum

Posted on 08/08/2003 3:16:20 PM PDT by Alouette

In the weeks before the first Gulf War, Noah Efron, a young American graduate student at Tel Aviv University, was standing in the cafeteria line when he overheard two female students in front of him. One said to her friend: "The best thing for the country would be if there was a chemical attack in Bnei Brak now, before they get new gas masks." Her friend replied that it would be "amusing" to forcibly shave the beards of all the "little Jews."

That conversation inspired Efron, today a Bar-Ilan University professor of history and philosophy, to conduct a decade-long inquiry into the question: "[W]hy - beset by bombs, hunger and hopelessness - do so many Israelis see as our primary enemy, as the real cause of all our problems, the great mass of men in black?" The resulting book, Real Jews: Secular vs. Orthodox and the Struggle for Jewish Identity in Israel, will give scant solace to haredi readers. Efron copiously details the familiar critique of the haredi community, and shares it in large part.

Yet he concludes that no matter how compelling the critique, it cannot fully explain the visceral hatred directed at the haredi community, and why a large element of irrationality infects all discussion of haredim.

While doing a postdoctoral fellowship at MIT, Efron was warned by an Israeli professor of art history not to return to Israel because his young daughters might end up in concentration camps being prepared by haredim. When he scoffed at her concerns, the woman, whom he describes as the "gentlest Israeli I know," grew enraged. Her fantasies typify the irrational thinking about haredim.

The haredim have inherited the traditional Jewish role in Christian Europe as the "Other" against whom one's own identity is defined, and the critique of haredi life borrows heavily from traditional anti-Semitic critique of Jewish life.

No matter how exposed one is to the hatred described by Efron, its full fury can still take one aback. A Ma'ariv story this week on the search for an American yeshiva student who has been missing for days elicited a torrent of ugliness. With the fate of this young boy still unknown, a number of Internet readers seized the opportunity to spew their venom against haredim. One offered that he would not be any sadder about the yeshiva student's loss than that of any Palestinian. Others complained that they have to work all day to support "idiots who instead of working go from one gravesite to another to pray." Another reminded the chat group that haredim "cause all the hatred and troubles."

The different media treatment of certain issues when haredim are involved and when they are not furnishes additional evidence of the irrational element of discussions touching haredim. Consider the differential treatment of religious councils and local authorities, both of which are hangouts for political hacks. Ever since Shas began to wrest control of the religious councils from the NRP in the late '80s, criticism of the religious councils has been a hardy perennial of the Israeli media. And promises to disband the religious councils have featured prominently on the platforms of virtually every secular politician.

IN TRUTH, much of the criticism of religious councils is fully justified. Positions on the councils are often rewards for political services rendered. And many of the religious councils do a lousy job of distributing religious services. Though former chief rabbi Eliyahu Bakshi-Doron and an occasional haredi Knesset member have called for transferring the distribution of religious services to the municipalities, it is regrettable that the haredi political leadership did not take the lead in pushing for dissolution of the religious councils.

Nevertheless, the savings from dissolution would have been relatively minor. When justice minister Yossi Beilin issued an administrative order in 2000 that salaries would no longer be paid to the heads and deputy heads of religious councils, the estimated savings came to only NIS 65 million. The total budget for the religious councils never exceeded NIS 500m., and most of those costs would have been picked up by the municipalities.

These sums are minor compared to the waste resulting from a failure to merge smaller local authorities into larger ones, as recommended by the 1998 Shahar Commission. The estimated savings from merging all local authorities serving less than 10,000 people come to more than NIS 2 billion a year. Such smaller authorities constitute nearly 80% of all local authorities - 140 serve less than 5,000 people and 66 less than 10,000.

Yet despite the far vaster sums involved, the issue of excessive local authorities has never been the subject of the same sustained media attention as the religious councils.

Even today, when the newspapers are filled daily with tragic stories of individual hardship caused by budgetary cuts, the success of local authority heads in gutting the Finance Ministry's merger proposal occasioned little of the vitriol that follows each new allocation to haredi institutions.

True, sharp editorials in this paper and by Haaretz's Nehemiah Strassler noted the sordid political deal involved. Positions on local authorities, which pay hefty salaries and entail little work, are the preferred sinecures for the party hacks who make up the Likud Central Committee, which selects the party's Knesset slate. And few Likud Knesset members wanted to cross their selectors.

Still, the general attitude was more along the lines of a "that's politics" shrug. Venality is part of the human condition, and most people do not go through life with the commonweal uppermost in their thoughts. It's common knowledge. No need to dwell on that. But when the venality involves haredim, then it serves as "proof" of something much more nefarious - of the depraved nature of an entire community. Now we are no longer in the realm of normal human greed, but of a whole community of bloodsuckers seeking to drain the very lifeblood from the secular community.

Billions of shekels spent to bail out the kibbutzim from failed stockmarket speculations, and lucrative land grants worth billions more, occasion none of the same anger as allocations to haredi educational institutions. No recent headlines blasted the news, "Billions for local authority heads, less for starving children."

A few weeks ago Tommy Lapid dispensed NIS 123 million from the public coffers as if it were his personal largesse. In doing so he voluntarily chose to emulate the corrupt system of special allocations which was once forced on haredi Knesset members. And he did so in apparent violation of the Budget Law, which requires prior disclosure of all coalition agreements.

No paper juxtaposed a photograph of well-heeled Ramat Aviv society matrons watching a performance of the Batsheva Dance Company with one of an empty refrigerator in Kiryat Gat, with the caption "Rich enjoy new subsidies for theater courtesy of Tommy Lapid, while the poor starve." Precisely such juxtapositioned images are employed frequently to encourage secular Israelis to spend, in their mind's eye, every allocation to haredi institutions many times over, and to imagine every national need taken care of if only the haredim would disappear.

Our Sages tell us that the Temple was destroyed because of the internal enmity and hatred of the Jewish people. If we want to understand why we did not merit to celebrate Tisha Be'av this year in a rebuilt Temple, we don't have far to look.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; haredim; israel; religious; secular; shinui
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As a rabbi in Moscow, my son is doing 100 times more for Judaism, Israel and aliyah than the "Jewish Agency" bureaucrats who get paid a bounty for every non-Jew they recruit.

This is what is meant by the prophecy in Zechariah 14:14: "Also Judah shall make was with Jerusalem" meaning, the religious Jews ("Haredim" and "settlers") will rise up against the secular government.

I don't always agree with Jonathan Rosenblum (I am a "modern" Haredi) but he hits the nail on the head with this one.

1 posted on 08/08/2003 3:16:21 PM PDT by Alouette
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To: 1bigdictator; 2sheep; a_witness; agrace; American in Israel; Anamensis; anapikoros; Ancesthntr; ...
"Useless hatred" alert. I told you so on Tisha B'Av (yesterday)
2 posted on 08/08/2003 3:17:37 PM PDT by Alouette (Every democratic politician should live next door to a pimp, so he can have someone to look up to.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
I'm so Tolkein-addled that I thought this was a LOTR thread, and we were debating the "Haradrim"....

How many days till the TTT DVD comes out, anyway?

3 posted on 08/08/2003 3:24:17 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Alouette
I am not so religious but have utmost respect for the Haredim. They have been nice enough to me in America and in Israel when I went for a Haredim wedding, my cousin. I am smart enough to know that the prayers of the religious Jews are what saves Israel from the Arab Jihad. The IDF is very helpful too/
4 posted on 08/08/2003 3:27:01 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: Alouette; dennisw
Thanks for posting.

Good Shabbes, guys.

5 posted on 08/08/2003 3:37:17 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Alouette
I was friends for two years with an Israeli guy who served in the Shayetet commando unit with distinction. He fought for Israel in Lebanon while Israel was still there, yet he felt no enmity at all towards Palestinians or Arabs in general, but, he absolutely hated the Haredim. His view was that they should all be shot or gassed. He called them leeches. I could not, and still don't, understand why Jewish Israelis like him feel that way. On a spiritual level perhaps that is why suicide bombings and such occur in Israel...to waken the Israeli psyche out of its hatred of its own people. Much in the same way as 9/11 caused New Yorkers to "come together". But I still don't understand it. Anyone have an explanation?
6 posted on 08/08/2003 3:46:55 PM PDT by Scubes
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To: Alouette
(I am a "modern" Haredi)

???

Say it ain't soooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

7 posted on 08/08/2003 3:50:07 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (G-d's laws or NONE!!!)
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To: Alouette
Fascinating! A similar double standard is applied to noticeably religious Christians in the United States. Maybe it's a perception that "publicly" religious people ought to be above the standard self-interest and corruption? Or maybe the majority just can't stand people who are striving for holiness? A curious social phenomenon.
8 posted on 08/08/2003 3:51:29 PM PDT by Tax-chick (GUNS - the anti-liberal!)
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To: Alouette
During the Crown Heights riots in NY, the hasidic jews were mercilessly attacked in what could only have been considered a pogrom.

The 'secular' jews in the city and indeed the nearby communities turned their backs on the jews who were under seige.

Shame shame.

9 posted on 08/08/2003 4:05:29 PM PDT by OldFriend ((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
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To: OldFriend
Amish and other plainclothes Christians are equally villifiend in their communities.
10 posted on 08/08/2003 4:22:42 PM PDT by mlmr (Am I having fun yet???)
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To: Scubes
He fought for Israel in Lebanon while Israel was still there, yet he felt no enmity at all towards Palestinians or Arabs in general, but, he absolutely hated the Haredim. His view was that they should all be shot or gassed.

That is so sick. I've had secular Jews say the same thing to me. I have a college degree and 17 years of IT industry experience, and yes, I've been laid off several times because of "outsourcing".

Unemployment sucks. I have to bust my butt every 6 months for another contract. How does that make me more of a "leech" than the hundreds of thousands of other displaced tech workers in the U.S.?

What I don't understand is why "Jews" like him stay in Israel. Why don't they just move to a country where they won't be offended by the sight of Jews actually observing Judaism. Like France or something. Still, I don't wish on him to be gassed or shot or blown up by a terrorist. I pray that he should come to his senses. Quickly, by G-D.

11 posted on 08/08/2003 4:38:20 PM PDT by Alouette (Every democratic politician should live next door to a pimp, so he can have someone to look up to.)
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To: mlmr
Notice that there is now a letter made public written by Peter Jennings objecting to the oldest jewish synagogue in NY attempting to build an apartment building in 'his' neighborhood. His complaint.....it will change the character of 'his' neighborhood.
12 posted on 08/08/2003 4:39:20 PM PDT by OldFriend ((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
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To: OldFriend
Notice that there is now a letter made public written by Peter Jennings objecting to the oldest jewish synagogue in NY attempting to build an apartment building in 'his' neighborhood. His complaint.....it will change the character of 'his' neighborhood.

Revoke his new citizenship and send that putz back to Canuckifrance. BTW, the synagogue he's so opposed to happened to be founded by HISPANIC Jews. So that makes him a double racist.

13 posted on 08/08/2003 4:41:30 PM PDT by Alouette (Every democratic politician should live next door to a pimp, so he can have someone to look up to.)
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To: Alouette
As always, the elites are anti semitic.

Heed these ugly winds before it's too late.

14 posted on 08/08/2003 4:42:56 PM PDT by OldFriend ((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
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To: Alouette
I'm not familiar with the laws of Israel, but this also seems like the kind of hatred triggered by government policies based on group affiliation. We're seeing it in the U.S. with affirmative action - people turn into maniacs when favored groups are given handouts, even when they had nothing personal against blacks, Mexicans, etc.
15 posted on 08/08/2003 4:43:25 PM PDT by Tax-chick (GUNS - the anti-liberal!)
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To: Tax-chick
I'm not familiar with the laws of Israel, but this also seems like the kind of hatred triggered by government policies based on group affiliation.

The difference is that in Israeli law, the secular elites get a much greater share (for their proportion of the population) than the haredim. For example, if the treasury is so busted, why is Tommy Lapid (the ultra-secularist haredi-hater) handing out Israeli tax money to his elite "artiste" patrons to produce anti-Israeli, pro-Palestinian propaganda, while agitating that impoverished haredi families should be shoved from poverty into downright destitution. Because he thinks that in a "Jewish state", Judaism is worthless.

The mind boggles.

16 posted on 08/08/2003 5:03:59 PM PDT by Alouette (Every democratic politician should live next door to a pimp, so he can have someone to look up to.)
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Well yeh it is sick I agree with you. The reason why he won't leave Israel is because he sees himself not as a Jew but as a Hebrew by race and as such Israel is his country. He would rather the Haredim leave Israel. You know what Jewish Tradition says about the Jews leaving Egypt? That 4/5 Jews did not leave Egypt at the time, and perished. And so it will be at the End as well, where 4/5 Jews will not desire Israel whether they live in the country or not.
17 posted on 08/08/2003 5:10:33 PM PDT by Scubes
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To: Alouette
Why does it boggle? They were much worse before. Because the Arabs have murdered so many Jews since Oslo/Wye/Roadmap these types have been more afraid to speak up. They can't blame the failures of Peres/Rabin/Barak/Netanyau on the "Dati".
18 posted on 08/08/2003 5:11:42 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: dennisw; spectacularbid2003
"I am smart enough to know that the prayers of the religious Jews are what saves Israel from the Arab Jihad...."

Amen.

"...The IDF is very helpful too."

Actually, the two are synonymous! In America, after 9/11, any Christian body in America who still had any sense of justice beseiged Heaven's Gates with petitions for justice against the murderers, and the U.S. Marine Corps deploys and rolls two whole countries. In Israel, the cries of the innocent who are victimized by PLO terrorism reach the the Throne, and the IDF rolls on the terrorist infrastructure.

I think the whole concept works pretty good. You would think the little barbarian terrorists would "get the message."

19 posted on 08/08/2003 5:40:31 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Alouette
"Our Sages tell us that the Temple was destroyed because of the internal enmity and hatred of the Jewish people. If we want to understand why we did not merit to celebrate Tisha Be'av this year in a rebuilt Temple, we don't have far to look."

This is a very profound statement. There is much internal reflection for a culture that, after so many centuries being dispersed throughout the globe, find themselves right back in The Land they were promised from the beginning. Like I have said, the modern day existence of Israel as a viable nation is nothing but a tangible miracle, for anyone who can get past the spiritual/faith killer of "Modernism."

How long will it take for the Jewish people to get to where He wants them to be, internally as a nation? Who knows. But we see it happening.

I think that's a wonderful thing.

20 posted on 08/08/2003 5:49:14 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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